TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

[milkymama]

You know....if I had never been told she had implants, I would agree with you on this observation. The only thing that I can think of is that perhaps she had the type that were placed just behind the fatty tissue, and not the muscles on the chest wall. My surgeon had explained to me that going just behind the fatty tissue would definitely cause sagging with age. But weren't the implants discovered at autopsy? Or confirmed at autopsy?

*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified.*

There was no autopsy. So how was it discovered she had them?

 

[Gardener1850]

Would you take a look at L@urie Kennedy 1959 Irving Texas? I have two no votes and looking for a third. Thanks!

Not her. Not only do I not think she looks like FLEK, I found that Laurie's marriage records and found her on fb under her current married name.

 

[Gardener1850]

Are we 100% for sure she had breast implants? In the photos from this link there is one where she is holding up wjat looks like a dream catcher key chain or very small dream catcher.

You can tell she is wearing 2 shirts as her outer shirt is so thin you can see tje shirt that is under it, which looks to be a button up that's way too small and hits her midriff. Her breast placement is very low for someone who has had implants. For granted as one ages the skin relaxes and they do drop a lot compared to fresh swollen new boob jobs and over time they relax a bit more but hers seem really low.

When a plastic surgeon measures you for a augmentation he uses not just a formula but also takes into consideration your existing healthy breast tissue, how tight or giving your skin is, the size selected of implants and also makes decissions based on if you've chosen over or under muscle.

He is trying to achieve a end result (after complete healing) of a triangle of equal proportions using the collar bone as the top point of the collar bone. Hers do not look proportionate.


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She supposedly got them in 1991. This comes from Velling who had access to her medical records.

"He learned from medical records that she had breast implants. And for a moment, Velling thought he had a solid lead — implants, he learned, have serial numbers, and serial numbers lead to doctors’ records. But it appeared she got them after she had become Lori. And besides, she was cremated."
http://old.seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021243552_janedoexml.html

"Records gathered by Velling provide tantalizing clues. The woman received breast implants in 1991 and claimed to have suffered from bulimia in 1990."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/2...emains-mystery-three-years-after-suicide.html

We are also told her medical records state she was 5'8". There was never an autopsy. That was a big hiccup--She was cremated before they discovered the fraud. So they couldn't check the serial numbers on the implants. Not having an autopsy, we are missing other important details she may not have reported in her medical records as Lori. Did she ever have any broken bones? Old scars? Surgeries not in her medical file as Lori (we have no record of nose job that is just a theory)?

 

[honesty]

You are right, we are missing a LOT of details that would possibly render more clues.

Has it ever been stated that the fertility issues were on her side or BR'S side? I know I've read every thing I can find on this case for since it came out but it's been a lot to read and a long time so I'm trying to remember if that has been stated or not. I'm drawing a blank concerning the fertility issue. I do know they did take medical measures to become pregnant, which also, I've always wanted to know if FLEK'S eggs were used for her daughter or were donor eggs used.

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[Gardener1850]

You are right, we are missing a LOT of details that would possibly render more clues.

Has it ever been stated that the fertility issues were on her side or BR'S side? I know I've read every thing I can find on this case for since it came out but it's been a lot to read and a long time so I'm trying to remember if that has been stated or not. I'm drawing a blank concerning the fertility issue. I do know they did take medical measures to become pregnant, which also, I've always wanted to know if FLEK'S eggs were used for her daughter or were donor eggs used.

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We are not told much about the fertility issues except that she had a miscarriage when they were trying. IMO, the implication is that she was the one with issues. Velling thinks it is because she was much older than she claimed. I don't think we have ever heard if there was a donor egg used and we may never get that info, IMO. They may have held back on that detail to protect the daughter's privacy a bit.

 

[Linda9681]

So I was looking again at her email address we found awhile back. I JUST noticed it's her initials backwards.. Did we discuss that? ( what does the W stand for!!!!!)

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[EmiLove832]

So I was looking again at her email address we found awhile back. I JUST noticed it's her initials backwards.. Did we discuss that? ( what does the W stand for!!!!!)

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Amazing find!

These are the finds that are likely going to reveal the truth. I wouldn't be surprised if her real initials were LW.

 

[Gardener1850]

I believe Cantebria Crossing is the apartment complex she lived in when she had her mystery shopping business website. She ran the "business" from her apartment and that is why is says possible business/employer address.

 

[Gardener1850]

Are those email addresses confirmed to be Lori's? I've never seen them. "Kewl" is just the tween texting version of "cool".

 

[bears10]

Are those email addresses confirmed to be Lori's? I've never seen them. "Kewl" is just the tween texting version of "cool".

That's how I read it too, as cool but spelled like a middle schooler lol. I also wonder if these are her email addresses. Do we have any info about why she would have an Ameritrade email? I googled it and only got one result which is for someone with the same first name that lives in CT.

ETA - the Ameritrade email address is not LEK. The lady I stated above has an alias LJK, probably her maiden name. So I am not sure if the kewl email belonged to LEK either.

 

[Gardener1850]

That's how I read it too, as cool but spelled like a middle schooler lol. I also wonder if these are her email addresses. Do we have any info about why she would have an Ameritrade email? I googled it and only got one result which is for someone with the same first name that lives in CT.

I just searched and saw the Lori J F in CT too. Don't think she is FLEK, she just used to have the same last name.

 

[bears10]

I just searched and saw the Lori J F in CT too. Don't think she is FLEK, she just used to have the same last name.

Agree. I edited my previous post, she has an alias of LJK which is probably why the other website linked it to the name LEK.

 

[Linda9681]

I have no idea. It was discussed on this forum months ago, and I don't think it was ruled out. Someone else asked me about it and I wrote it down. As I was writing it down, I noticed her initals( backwards). I think it's too much of a coincidence if it IS her email. I don't think it was the teen spelling of cool. I think it's initals. But.. It's an opinion, like every dang thing in this case.
Who found those emails the first time? The person who asked me about them ruled out the ameritrade account yesterday.


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[Gardener1850]

We discussed the Kewl web email before here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...63-*General-Discussion-and-Theories*-3/page24

 

[Gardener1850]

The above thread is the only search result I get when searching for that yahoo email. I wonder if it is still an active email address?

 

[SavetheQueen]

There was no autopsy. So how was it discovered she had them?

Oh. Well, then, yes. How???

*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified. *

 

[SavetheQueen]

She supposedly got them in 1991. This comes from Velling who had access to her medical records.

"He learned from medical records that she had breast implants. And for a moment, Velling thought he had a solid lead — implants, he learned, have serial numbers, and serial numbers lead to doctors’ records. But it appeared she got them after she had become Lori. And besides, she was cremated."
http://old.seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021243552_janedoexml.html

"Records gathered by Velling provide tantalizing clues. The woman received breast implants in 1991 and claimed to have suffered from bulimia in 1990."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/2...emains-mystery-three-years-after-suicide.html

We are also told her medical records state she was 5'8". There was never an autopsy. That was a big hiccup--She was cremated before they discovered the fraud. So they couldn't check the serial numbers on the implants. Not having an autopsy, we are missing other important details she may not have reported in her medical records as Lori. Did she ever have any broken bones? Old scars? Surgeries not in her medical file as Lori (we have no record of nose job that is just a theory)?

But if the investigator was able to get the serial numbers and get her medical history, then there's a record of the serial numbers.

*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified. *

 

[SavetheQueen]

You are right, we are missing a LOT of details that would possibly render more clues.

Has it ever been stated that the fertility issues were on her side or BR'S side? I know I've read every thing I can find on this case for since it came out but it's been a lot to read and a long time so I'm trying to remember if that has been stated or not. I'm drawing a blank concerning the fertility issue. I do know they did take medical measures to become pregnant, which also, I've always wanted to know if FLEK'S eggs were used for her daughter or were donor eggs used.

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I had asked a few days ago about where she may have had the in vitro fertilization done at.

*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified. *

 

[Gardener1850]

Ok, so that email came from a link posted by creeped out. This is the link posted: https://www.myrelatives.com/d/lori-kennedy/31945258

I don't recall seeing that Marwood address in Bedford before. I have the Harwood address but not the Marwood one. And dates on that website are more specific than I have seen elsewhere. I don't know how accurate it is though since the ameritrade email address we ruled out is linked there.

 

[Gardener1850]

But if the investigator was able to get the serial numbers and get her medical history, then there's a record of the serial numbers.

*All statements are that of my own opinion unless otherwise specified. *

He didn't get any Serial numbers. He was probably looking at more recent medical records and she probably self-reported to the fertility dr that she had breast implants in 1991. I don't think he found the original records of the implants or the dr that put them in. That surgeon would be very interesting to question but Velling gave up looking for the implant surgeon, IMO, because she was claiming to be LEK in 1991. But what if she had the implants done under her old identity still? We just don't know if she could have pulled off living a double life for a while or not.