TX - Lynndie England for mistreatment of Abu Ghraib detainees, Fort Hood, 2003

[michelle]

Maybe it's because I live at Fort Hood, but I didn't think she or anyone should have gone to jail for the prison incidents. I've seen the devastation first hand what those SOB's in Iraq have done to our troops, and not to mention their families. None of those prisoners DIED by cowardly deeds of their "enemy". So what they were humiliated, they are alive, fed and housed. Ours that are captured don't live as well as prisoners, or are murdered. I've listened to an 8 year old explain to me how his Daddy went to heaven, I've hugged & cried with a 21 year old wife who gave birth to her first child 3 weeks before her husband was killed, I took a home off the market I listed when a wife with 4 kids found out her husband was killed from a roadside bomb, it goes on and on. This week alone Fort Hood lost 5 soldiers, one was only 20 years old, from dirty tactics. As harsh as it sounds I could care less if the Iraqi insurgents they capture are thrown in room with hungry pit bulls.
Ok...I'm ducking... :truce: who threw that 3" heel at me?

my brother is in ft hood, so i am with you on this sadie...

 

[Opie]

sadiemae, you won't get any argument from me. At least they are alive.

 

[SadieMae]

my brother is in ft hood, so i am with you on this sadie...

1st Cav, 13th CosCom, or 4th ID?

 

[michelle]

1st Cav, 13th CosCom, or 4th ID?

i believe its 1st, he is home now for xmas but going back on monday morning, he signed up about 8 months ago, i did not want him to but he seems to like it he has met a lot of friends down there...

 

[SadieMae]

i believe its 1st, he is home now for xmas but going back on monday morning, he signed up about 8 months ago, i did not want him to but he seems to like it he has met a lot of friends down there...

Yep, it's a pretty friendly place here. 1st Cav won't be going to Iraq for a while I don't believe, most returned back in March. Most of the 4th ID just left for their 2nd time to Iraq. If he ever needs help with anything just PM me.

 

[michelle]

Yep, it's a pretty friendly place here. 1st Cav won't be going to Iraq for a while I don't believe, most returned back in March. Most of the 4th ID just left for their 2nd time to Iraq. If he ever needs help with anything just PM me.

thanks i will!!!

 

[shadowangel]

Maybe it's because I live at Fort Hood, but I didn't think she or anyone should have gone to jail for the prison incidents. I've seen the devastation first hand what those SOB's in Iraq have done to our troops, and not to mention their families. None of those prisoners DIED by cowardly deeds of their "enemy". So what they were humiliated, they are alive, fed and housed. Ours that are captured don't live as well as prisoners, or are murdered. I've listened to an 8 year old explain to me how his Daddy went to heaven, I've hugged & cried with a 21 year old wife who gave birth to her first child 3 weeks before her husband was killed, I took a home off the market I listed when a wife with 4 kids found out her husband was killed from a roadside bomb, it goes on and on. This week alone Fort Hood lost 5 soldiers, one was only 20 years old, from dirty tactics. As harsh as it sounds I could care less if the Iraqi insurgents they capture are thrown in room with hungry pit bulls.

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(89th MP Bde, '89-'95, and that little thing known as Operation Desert Storm...)

 

[kylie]

So, you know for a fact that those incarcerated were "terrorists?" Actually, we invaded a sovereign nation which posed no threat to us....those arrrested may have been fighting against our occupation....they would not see themselves as terrorists...Iraq had nothing to with 911....many arrested were petty criminals.....what right did Lyndie England or anyone else have to treat another person that way....it is unneccesary and simply makes us look bad....she and Charles Granger, a documented domestic abuser did more than just shoot some pictures.....
I'm sure there were higher ups with knowledge and they should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law...the full impact of our foolhardy invasion in Iraq may take years to truly comprhend in all it's horror- much like the Soviet invasion of Afghanistam...it may ultimately have divided our country and exhausted our resources to the point where we cannot recover.....of course the President is now talking about a strike on Iran...which may have been the real reason for our Iraq invasion....
Why do you think that John Mc Cain, a torture victim himself, wants to ban it?
What we did was unethical, inhumane and does not lead to useful information as the torture victim will say anything to stop the torture..How do you think the info about the connection to Africa was made -which turned out to be false? Also, as a democratic nation, we have made a committment to not use cruel and unusual punishment..One terrorist attack is no excuse to act like a cowboy invading a country with no ties to 911 and alienating its citizens....
I certainly hope you have not taught your children that what Ms. England did was right.............it is a sad day when the victims become the victimizers...

 

[Marthatex]

Marthatex--
My son was around 9 at the time of his injuries. He had skin grafts and recovered fine, though his legs will never look right. Now he is an adult, married, with 2 children of his own. His chief problem with his legs now is that he cannot swim in chlorinated pools, as they cause some kind of skin reaction. Pools with other types of chemicals work just fine. We were all blessed with the outcome, as it could have been so very much worse. Thank you for your concern.

good. glad it wasn't on his face and all.

 

[KatherineQ]

It's kind of freeing to just say I don't care what happens to her. I think she's one of those women who only care if guys like them, and they care about nothing else. Nothing.

I think if she didn't go to prison, she'd have her child to raise and her child would be abused and maybe even killed by a young man she wanted to impress.

I agree, Lynndie England probably has an intelligence problem. I'd bet her IQ is somewhere around 92. But that doesn't excuse her desire to hurt others just to impress that jackass who fathered her baby.

Prayers that her baby is being raised to be a better person than she is.

 

[SadieMae]

So, you know for a fact that those incarcerated were "terrorists?" Actually, we invaded a sovereign nation which posed no threat to us....those arrrested may have been fighting against our occupation....they would not see themselves as terrorists...Iraq had nothing to with 911....many arrested were petty criminals.....what right did Lyndie England or anyone else have to treat another person that way....it is unneccesary and simply makes us look bad....she and Charles Granger, a documented domestic abuser did more than just shoot some pictures.....
I'm sure there were higher ups with knowledge and they should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law...the full impact of our foolhardy invasion in Iraq may take years to truly comprhend in all it's horror- much like the Soviet invasion of Afghanistam...it may ultimately have divided our country and exhausted our resources to the point where we cannot recover.....of course the President is now talking about a strike on Iran...which may have been the real reason for our Iraq invasion....
Why do you think that John Mc Cain, a torture victim himself, wants to ban it?
What we did was unethical, inhumane and does not lead to useful information as the torture victim will say anything to stop the torture..How do you think the info about the connection to Africa was made -which turned out to be false? Also, as a democratic nation, we have made a committment to not use cruel and unusual punishment..One terrorist attack is no excuse to act like a cowboy invading a country with no ties to 911 and alienating its citizens....
I certainly hope you have not taught your children that what Ms. England did was right.............it is a sad day when the victims become the victimizers...

Did I say I did??? Think I even care what they think? Those criminals are probably living better in our prison than they did in Iraq. :hand:
What Hitler did to the Jews wasn't a threat to us either, guess we shoulda never gotten involved in that either, huh?
As far as what I teach my kids...DON'T EVEN GO THERE!

 

[proadvocate]

Terrie England, who is caring for England's infant during her incarceration, faulted prison officials for not giving better treatment during a visit to the emergency room.


Typical liberal gibberish.It is always the States fault.Unfortunately liberals tend to forget that the State does not recruit morons to spend time within its penal institutes...Word of advice...Can't suffer the time don't make others suffer your crime.They shoulda took the moron to the ER on a leash,it would have been quite fitting for her.

 

[gamegirl]

Karma? :twocents:

 

[deanws]

Karma? :twocents:

No..I am sorry...I do not believe so.

 

[spclk]

I have to agree with you. I made the terrible mistake of watching the video of nicholas Berg being decapitated and it has haunted me since, literally the stuff that nightmares are made of. If any of you had watched it, I tend to think you would agree with me. It is the most horrendous thing I have EVER witnessed.

I think Enland took the fall for alot of people higher up. I don't agree that we shouldn't mistreat anyone, but also don't believe that she should suffer the punishment alone. There are many more that were in command that walked away scott free.

I do feel pity on the Iraqi people, but have absolutely NO sympathy for those that are killing our soldiers, cutting off the heads of civilians and resisting democracy.

I am one of those who did not agree that we should have gone to war, but now that we are there, we must do whatever we have to to win it and get our soldiers home.

 

[michelle]

I have to agree with you. I made the terrible mistake of watching the video of nicholas Berg being decapitated and it has haunted me since, literally the stuff that nightmares are made of. If any of you had watched it, I tend to think you would agree with me. It is the most horrendous thing I have EVER witnessed.

I think Enland took the fall for alot of people higher up. I don't agree that we shouldn't mistreat anyone, but also don't believe that she should suffer the punishment alone. There are many more that were in command that walked away scott free.

I do feel pity on the Iraqi people, but have absolutely NO sympathy for those that are killing our soldiers, cutting off the heads of civilians and resisting democracy.

I am one of those who did not agree that we should have gone to war, but now that we are there, we must do whatever we have to to win it and get our soldiers home.

i would have horrible nightmares if i watched something like that....

 

[SadieMae]

i would have horrible nightmares if i watched something like that....

I saw videos of them all, Daniel Perle, Berg and a few others. Sickening what they will do. I can't believe those same people complaining about AbuGraib (sp) aren't showing outrage at what the Iraqi groups are doing to U. S. CIVILIANS. And I have not seen ANY reports of our soldiers who may have been taken prisoner. I don't even know if any are missing over there. I find that very odd. If they don't take prisoners, it means they automatically kill and don't bother with housing or feeding our soldiers. If they are taking prisoners, why don't we hear how they are treated???

 

[Lesleegp]

I'll take having my picture made nude with a dog collar and leash on over being blindfolded and having my head sawed off with a dull steak knife for my poor family to see any day.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'll take having my picture made nude with a dog collar and leash on over being blindfolded and having my head sawed off with a dull steak knife for my poor family to see any day.

ditto!:clap:

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

I saw videos of them all, Daniel Perle, Berg and a few others. Sickening what they will do. I can't believe those same people complaining about AbuGraib (sp) aren't showing outrage at what the Iraqi groups are doing to U. S. CIVILIANS. And I have not seen ANY reports of our soldiers who may have been taken prisoner. I don't even know if any are missing over there. I find that very odd. If they don't take prisoners, it means they automatically kill and don't bother with housing or feeding our soldiers. If they are taking prisoners, why don't we hear how they are treated???

Sadie Mae ,you go girl!!!!! The horrors they have inflicted upon our people! I could care less about their humiliation....what does Daniel Perle's little son who never kissed his kindly father feel....... :furious: They make me sick , I'm outraged with their total lack of humanity! :sick: :sick: