TX - Mass Shooting at Fort Hood, 5 November 2009 #1

[christee]

pic of Hasan:

 

[gibby207]

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec: everyone that goes thru a gate is checked... your car has to be registered (my hubby is an army officer and we are stationed at fort leavenworth)

people are allowed to have registered weapons on post.. personal weapons. They have to be secured.

There is no descrimination at the front gates as to officer or enlisted. Everyone gets the same look over. Additionally, most posts now have civillian guards at the gates because our mps are overseas fighting... even our mp forces on post are supplemented with civillians (such as the officer that killed the perp today and was killed in the process) because there simply are not enough active duty mps left to do these sorts of jobs after all the downrange needs are filled.

I respectfully disagree. Not everyone's car is checked.

 

[indicat]

yes he should have been discharged!

And he was about to be redeployed, someone has dropped the ball on this.

 

[krazykidz]

retired colonel who worked with the shooter attended a conference with him 6 months ago. he heard him publicly stated that muslims should rise up against the usa. commented within earshot of news folks that usa was the aggressor in the middle east and that we should get out. was told by this colonel to "zip it" because military should not disparage commander in chief. this retired colonel observed the shooter getting more and more agitated over the last 6 months and he is very upset that this major was transferred from walter reed to fort hood if there was knowledge of mental issues and/or anti-government views. there were apparently many altercations with other soldiers concerning religion and politics

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.examiner.com/x-12767-US-...m6d19-Live-streaming-breaking-news-and-events

link to the presser... ignore the chat... it is nasty!

 

[theforgotten]

13 dead now.

 

[txsvicki]

Are they now saying that the lone psychiatrist did this? I don't beleive that. My first thoughts are that he's been an undercover terrorist for awhile.

 

[nursebeeme]

I respectfully disagree. Not everyone's car is checked.

yes they are... unless you have registered your car. if you live or work or are stationed on post you have to register your pov.

when you go thru the gate your id card is checked. I do this hundreds of times a day.

your car is not searched if you have a sticker because you are registered on post.

if you have no sticker there is another lane where you show your car registration and your car may be searched and where I am currently stationed... they search 100% of the nonregistered vehicles.

eta: okay not hundreds of times a day but enough and long enough to know what I am talking about

 

[revampz]

retired colonel who worked with the shooter attended a conference with him 6 months ago. he heard him publicly stated that muslims should rise up against the usa. commented within earshot of news folks that usa was the aggressor in the middle east and that we should get out. was told by this colonel to "zip it" because military should not disparage commander in chief. this retired colonel observed the shooter getting more and more agitated over the last 6 months and he is very upset that this major was transferred from walter reed to fort hood if there was knowledge of mental issues and/or anti-government views. there were apparently many altercations with other soldiers concerning religion and politics

WOW.....to me this is political correctness madness........even after him saying this stuff in this world of today and suings and the rights of minorities and predjudices etc it would have probably taken ages to get him out of the army because of legal ramifications.....

 

[STEADFAST]

yes they are... unless you have registered your car. if you live or work or are stationed on post you have to register your pov.

when you go thru the gate your id card is checked. I do this hundreds of times a day.

your car is not searched if you have a sticker because you are registered on post.

if you have no sticker there is another lane where you show your car registration and your car may be searched and where I am currently stationed... they search 100% of the nonregistered vehicles.

eta: okay not hundreds of times a day but enough and long enough to know what I am talking about

But I think the point is that if you work on base, your car is registered, it isn't checked, and you could easily bring in guns in your trunk.

 

[indicat]

retired colonel who worked with the shooter attended a conference with him 6 months ago. he heard him publicly stated that muslims should rise up against the usa. commented within earshot of news folks that usa was the aggressor in the middle east and that we should get out. was told by this colonel to "zip it" because military should not disparage commander in chief. this retired colonel observed the shooter getting more and more agitated over the last 6 months and he is very upset that this major was transferred from walter reed to fort hood if there was knowledge of mental issues and/or anti-government views. there were apparently many altercations with other soldiers concerning religion and politics

So he attends this conference, voices very disturbing views, with who knows how many high ranking officers, and nothing is done but to tell him to "zip it". Incredible.

 

[MeoW333]

This "soldier" opened fire on other soldiers while they were processing for deployment to Iraq. This soldier was also processing to deploy to Iraq. This may not be the right thing to say but to me this qualifies as a terrorist attack on our troops in uniform.

Thats exactly what it is! I agree with you, and it is the right thing to say!

 

[mydailyopinions]

Thats exactly what it is! I agree with you, and it is the right thing to say!

Cousin of shooter on Fox news..
Saying he has always been Muslim never converted to Islam.

 

[christee]

Hasan may have been 'd with The Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress-CSTS

 

[miss lisa]

Muslin before joining the army per his own cousin

 

[Liz]

Yes Col Terry Lee is giving out a lot information on shooter! Much of what some of us were already thinking!

The person talking on Fox is giving alot of good insight into the shooter, thanks mydailyopinions!

From what Col Lee said, it sounds to me like Hasan should've been given the boot out of the Army a LONG time ago! Then, this senseless tragedy may have been prevented.

 

[indicat]

Cousin is on Fox, saying he was a great american, hmmm. Blaming that he was harrased by other soldiers. Putting the family spin on things I guess.

 

[danni]

From an Army wife:

I have to say that the generalization and HATRED of the Islam religion that I have seen today on this site makes me sick.
I hope that we had no valued members of this website that were Muslim. If we did, I am sure if they set their eyes upon this thread they will be no longer!

I have not been a member here long, and I don't want to stir the pot but the things that I have seen today make me physically SICK!
Would I be reading the same type of religious hate had this man been Catholic, with a name like Isaiah? I DOUBT IT!

Just to let you know its not always a "religious" thing. My neighbor at Ft. Campbell blew up his whole family along with the building of six other families that he lived in before a deployment. He was not connected to Islam, nor was he Muslim. He was actually Baptist and had just been in church the day before!

carry on and flame away!

 

[revampz]

WOW.....to me this is political correctness madness........even after him saying this stuff in this world of today and suings and the rights of minorities and predjudices etc it would have probably taken ages to get him out of the army because of legal ramifications.....

He is in the US Army and basically against the US.....he should have been politely packed up and said thats ok mate.....off you go.....

 

[nursebeeme]

But I think the point is that if you work on base, your car is registered, it isn't checked, and you could easily bring in guns in your trunk.

I got that. I was only responding to the post that said officers are not checked like everyone else.

And yes, he could legally bring his guns on post in his trunk if they were registered. And even if they were not registered and he had a sticker on his car.... all he would have had to do was drive thru the gate after showing his id card. I agree.

Just wanted to clear up the front gate issue... there is a process there to secure the post...

nothing at the front gate could have prevented this from happening.