Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 #7

[Tripod]

THIS! Only my theory is he is now gone without a trace.
I agree with the sending him to store. Waiting for his return. The other part I thought odd was to my understanding is after BC got home she came home to a locked house and checked for MC there, not there so went and checked the shop but was locked and didn't go inside at this time but instead rounded up neighbors to check the property first then went back to the shop and unlock it then and look for him inside doesn't make since to look over 10 acres first before simply unlocking the shop and looking inside and finding the blood then and so forth.
Anyways.... really just hoping to keep MC case bumped is all so it stays active

MOO has always been, and still is, that the blood in the shop was not planted/staged. I think I remember Mr. Klein ( P.I.) stating that was his opinion, too, but of course that and other ideas may well have changed by now.

I still haven't been able to come up with a very good visual scenario for myself, as to what exactly happened in the shop. Klein's idea that perhaps MC being carried by 2 people out of the shop could account for the blood trail looking as it did, is as good as any. I believe he used the term " dog-walking," and this is the interview he did on Brainscratching, or Brainscratch? I know another WS'er will chime in on that!

 

[truetexan]

Brought over from June 19, 2018posted by ocgrad
As you know, I don't think GPS exists and I believe the ping data is not accurate enough to pinpoint that he was at Wal-Mart, just that he pinged off a tower that would be consistent with being in the vicinity of Wal-Mart. It's not in a major metropolitan area where your phone is pinging off a dozen towers, that can give more accuracy.
For sure the math that says his phone left the house at 2:30 and didn't ping the tower near the bridge till 5:50 we all know does not mean he was traveling 4.2 mph! The tower cannot determine if you are moving or sitting still. He or his phone could have been going 70 with several stops. But because HCSO didn't engage a phone expert until over 6 months later evidence that might have pointed to who he was with and why he was delayed between pinged locations was lost.
He said he traveled at 4.5 mph, now he says 4.2 mph. Why didn't he say that on KRLD or HCTR? He clearly thinks it's ok just to ballpark numbers! Is it just me or does that seem weird? He said he went 10-15 min past 2 mile bridge. Was it 10 or 15? Surely even ping data is more accurate than that. If he was traveling 4.2 mph he could have only gone 1 mile in 15 minutes. That wouldn't get him to the old property which is 6 miles past the bridge.
So I see where you are coming from, maybe he had to have a story for Disappeared. He should have read here, he could have come up with a better one.
THIS! And one stop along the way from the shop to the 2mile bridge certainly comes to mind......

 

[johnbelt]

Brought over from June 19, 2018
posted by ocgrad
As you know, I don't think GPS exists and I believe the ping data is not accurate enough to pinpoint that he was at Wal-Mart, just that he pinged off a tower that would be consistent with being in the vicinity of Wal-Mart. It's not in a major metropolitan area where your phone is pinging off a dozen towers, that can give more accuracy.
For sure the math that says his phone left the house at 2:30 and didn't ping the tower near the bridge till 5:50 we all know does not mean he was traveling 4.2 mph! The tower cannot determine if you are moving or sitting still. He or his phone could have been going 70 with several stops. But because HCSO didn't engage a phone expert until over 6 months later evidence that might have pointed to who he was with and why he was delayed between pinged locations was lost.
He said he traveled at 4.5 mph, now he says 4.2 mph. Why didn't he say that on KRLD or HCTR? He clearly thinks it's ok just to ballpark numbers! Is it just me or does that seem weird? He said he went 10-15 min past 2 mile bridge. Was it 10 or 15? Surely even ping data is more accurate than that. If he was traveling 4.2 mph he could have only gone 1 mile in 15 minutes. That wouldn't get him to the old property which is 6 miles past the bridge.
So I see where you are coming from, maybe he had to have a story for Disappeared. He should have read here, he could have come up with a better one.

THIS! And one stop along the way from the shop to the 2mile bridge certainly comes to mind......

This is a key right here it was not the bridge or the old place they searched in Feb but somewhere in between.Does this not seem like a criminal act by the sheriff to cover up his murder?

 

[truetexan]

This is a key right here it was not the bridge or the old place they searched in Feb but somewhere in between.Does this not seem like a criminal act by the sheriff to cover up his murder?

Is is possible MC could have disappeared without the sheriff's knowledge yea however his actions lead to a untrustworthy individual. You most likely think the same as I do on this theory

 

[RuthSleuth]

I am so happy to see this case getting attention on here again. Michael deserves to be found. Justice is needed. The family will never give up. And neither will we..

 

[RuthSleuth]

Maybe the slow speed mentioned is because possibly he was incapacitated in shop, placed in a boat and taken to the crematorium. Would explain the speed and also why he has never been found. I do not believe he walked away.. I will never believe that.

 

[truetexan]

Boat, car, pickup truck something other than a BICYCLE

 

[johnbelt]

Honestly I think that was just the guy who brought the truck back.

 

[truetexan]

Honestly I think that was just the guy who brought the truck back.

I concur! I think you and I are on the same page reading from the same book

 

[Razz]

Nice I wasn't able to find the sheriff's listing and of course we know who has a degree in mortuary sciences.

I'd love to know who has a degree in mortuary sciences. Color me confused!

 

[truetexan]

I'd love to know who has a degree in mortuary sciences. Color me confused!

SM

 

[johnbelt]

I'd love to know who has a degree in mortuary sciences. Color me confused!

He has a pointy star.

 

[Razz]

He has a pointy star.

Got it!

Where have you been? It's obvious you've been doing some digging.
Thank you and glad you're back!

 

[johnbelt]

I was Steve Rogers and lost access to that email account and registered with my real name it is easier for me.With info from truetexan coming together with some info I had.I sent the info to Klein.I hope this a big piece of the puzzle but then again it just shows what the family is up against.

 

[RuthSleuth]

Bumping for Mr. Chambers.....

 

[Tripod]

Nothing pithy to add right now, except I do concur with those who believe the sheriff's 4.2 or 4.5mph travel speed of MC's phone that fateful day probably isn't reflecting the possibility of there being any number of stops along the route, or how long said stop/s might have been for.

I sure would like a more detailed, technical explanation as to how the phone travel was determined. Bump for Papaw!

 

[truetexan]

Nothing pithy to add right now, except I do concur with those who believe the sheriff's 4.2 or 4.5mph travel speed of MC's phone that fateful day probably isn't reflecting the possibility of there being any number of stops along the route, or how long said stop/s might have been for.

I sure would like a more detailed, technical explanation as to how the phone travel was determined. Bump for Papaw!

Would like to see that also....

 

[JerseyGirl]

Michael Chambers was a 36-year veteran of the Dallas Fire Department before retiring in 2008. The 70-year-old husband, father and grandfather was the last person one would think could disappear, but Michael has now been missing for more than 20 months. Michael was last seen the morning of March 10, 2017. His wife told police she last spoke with him around 8:00 a.m. and several hours later, around 11:00 a.m., security video captured Michael walking out of the Walmart in Quinlan, Texas. He had bought some makeup there that his wife says she’d ask him to pick up for her. Investigators found several drops of blood in a shed on the family property after his wife reported Michael missing. Although there was no obvious sign of a struggle, authorities have characterized Michael’s disappearance as suspicious in nature. His truck keys and wallet were found in the home. His cellphone is missing. The family is offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to his whereabouts

Five years of Dateline’s Missing in America: 109 still missing

 

[truetexan]

Bump

 

[Tripod]

Nothing much on the BringPapawHome FB page I'd like to know if the Texas AG's office is definitely looking over the case, or not, or hasn't decided if they will. Bump!