TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

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  • #961
Fun fact: those drivers collect rewards. A shocking amount of rewards. The $1K, $5K, $10K Crimestoppers stuff adds up. They take pix of riders who trigger their spidey sense and email them in, at the start of the rides. They have 40 or 50 minutes of a fully captive audience while LE decides if they’re interested. Fantastic side hustle. They’re pretty smooth, eh? Think they emailed you in once or twice? (Briefcase decent decoy :D))

Interesting! I would love to learn more, if you have any shareable sources on this phenomenon?
 
  • #962
But would an Uber driver know for certain, in a city of millions, that it was Kaitlin Armstrong? And why did US Marshals admit there was no time stamp, no images??
By the 18th, the warrant had been issued only the day before. She may have taken an Uber to Newark LIberty, and paid for it with her own credit card and app. At that point, it is doubtful that anyone outside of Texas was looking for her. Speaking of which, is it possible that it has taken until the last few days to get all of her cellphone data, so that they were able to see that?? Seems they should have gotten it well before now. JMO
 
  • #963
They’ll pull a report of every ride that inbounded to EWR over a period [T-180, T+180] (T=time of law enforcement interest, minutes)
Probably something like 3K records at Uber and 1K at Lyft
Run subreport of all profiles [age <32 days]
(look first at trip records for profiles less than one month old)
Run subreport of all profiles [gender=f]

Right away you’re down to hundreds each
look at those first. Call drivers. Wavy hair? Skinny? Got a pic? Lot of them have cameras in the cars now for their own security and safety.

If nothing after that, run permutations.
Regress [destination=EWR; -180<T<180]
against
[ride>0 within zip=60 miles of 78784]
### what that looks for is, any rider to Newark in that three hour period who has ever had a logged ride within sixty miles of the bar scene in Austin, TX

The data science is insane. I gave a couple examples here but a creative dev can find anything.
I get what you're saying, but... most drivers are probably fairly oblivious as long as there are no issues with their passengers. So above you said "Call drivers. Wavy hair? Skinny?" Are you saying LE would call all Uber drivers who drove into Newark during that timeframe to ask about passengers who may look like her? They'd all probably say "No idea." Unless someone stood out like a sore thumb. they probably have a ton of riders who look like her a day. How long do Uber drivers keep any in-car camera records? Are they all required to have cameras? Or personal preference as they don't use company cars, but rather, their own.
 
  • #964
I will update with a link shortly but I just caught a bit on CNN and they said the US Marshals are trying to figure out who dropped her off in Newark. They said she did not take mass transit; it was a private car.

I am so stumped by all of this. Do they have her on video? Is this all based on an anonymous tip?
Remember.. her father talked to her five days ago. Just sayin’

^edit: convo with father was in May per GMA interview, not in June. Thanks to @jash for clarification!
 
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  • #965
Very good theorizing. It makes a lot of sense, given the information we have.

I would agree that as time passes, self-harm/suicide is a danger. To be 34 and facing the rest of your life as a fugitive wanted for first-degree murder, and having lost your home, work, and man, and unable to see your family— well, it can’t be easy.

I just read a headline yesterday (from back in January) that a Texas fugitive who was wanted for his wife’s murder was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, in a Travel Park in Florida:

When I first read that she is considered "armed and dangerous" this is what I thought tbh. Dangerous to herself more than others IMO. Though, her flight from justice does make it seem she has at least some will to live.
 
  • #966
I get what you're saying, but... most drivers are probably fairly oblivious as long as there are no issues with their passengers. So above you said "Call drivers. Wavy hair? Skinny?" Are you saying LE would call all Uber drivers who drove into Newark during that timeframe to ask about passengers who may look like her? They'd all probably say "No idea." Unless someone stood out like a sore thumb. they probably have a ton of riders who look like her a day. How long do Uber drivers keep any in-car camera records? Are they all required to have cameras? Or personal preference as they don't use company cars, but rather, their own.
They’ll call the subset that meet the criteria. And credit to Uber and Lyft drivers: THEY REMEMBER, especially when prompted by pickup location. Part of it is psychological, they are asked to rate riders within seconds of the end of a ride. Part of it is financial, a few minutes after that they get alerted on who tipped and how much, and can immediately withdraw the money.
they remember.
 
  • #967
Interesting! I would love to learn more, if you have any shareable sources on this phenomenon?
Watch em. Ask! start w the drivers for
coach USA at Port Authority and 41st. Cha Ching.
 
  • #968
But I mean an Uber driver — wouldn’t he have gotten her image in the car?
I read that she was dropped off in a "private car" - would an Uber count as a private car? Of all the Ubers I've taken in NYC, only one had a video recording of us passengers set up and that was the slightly more expensive UberXL service. So IMO it's not all that likely but still very possible for footage to exist if she took an Uber. And, of course, your Uber driver does see your profile picture in the app, but she could easily change that.

edit: typos and grammar
 
  • #969
If she was staying with someone for those days, perhaps she told them she was in hiding, afraid for her safety (that the "shooter" was coming for her next). Friend thought she needed protection. Maybe SHE told friend she was getting an Uber to the airport but went somewhere else entirely.

When national coverage blew up, said friend may have felt played. Did the rightest next thing -- called the tip in.

It's just that she never went to the airport.

Maybe?

JMO
 
  • #970
Remember.. her father talked to her five days ago. Just sayin’
Do you have a link to that claim? All I have seen reported was an interview that was linked here earlier, on about the 24th of May, in which he said, in that interview, that he had last spoken to her five days earlier, which would have been around May 18 or 19. We have seen nothing, to my knowledge, indicating that he has talked to her since, although I think it may be likely that he has. JMO
 
  • #971
I found the audio from CNN (better than nothing). Jump ahead to 36:40.


[Randi Kaye speaking:]

I spoke with Deputy US Marshal [BF] and he told me that they are still trying to figure out who dropped Kaitlin Armstrong at Newark airport. He said that this was not some sort of mass transit drop; this was a private vehicle so they're still trying to figure that out. And of course they've searched the database. Nobody with her name shows up on any sort of outbound flight from Newark so they're trying to figure out if possibly she was traveling using a fake ID or maybe just using the airport to throw investigators off her trail and possibly left the airport on foot or by some other means. They are pouring over all the security camera video, both inside and outside the airport, trying to see if maybe they can spot her, possibly even wearing a disguise at the airport.
 
  • #972
Do you have a link to that claim? All I have seen reported was an interview that was linked here earlier, on about the 24th of May, in which he said, in that interview, that he had last spoken to her five days earlier, which would have been around May 18 or 19. We have seen nothing, to my knowledge, indicating that he has talked to her since, although I think it may be likely that he has. JMO
I posted this one earlier, it’s dated June 7 and says that GMA interviewed the father, and he had spoken to her five days earlier. Was that interview done back on May 24? If so, my apologies… and now it’s too late to edit my earlier post.

 
  • #973
I found the audio from CNN (better than nothing). Jump ahead to 36:40.


[Randi Kaye speaking:]

I spoke with Deputy US Marshal [BF] and he told me that they are still trying to figure out who dropped Kaitlin Armstrong at Newark airport. He said that this was not some sort of mass transit drop; this was a private vehicle so they're still trying to figure that out. And of course they've searched the database. Nobody with her name shows up on any sort of outbound flight from Newark so they're trying to figure out if possibly she was traveling using a fake ID or maybe just using the airport to throw investigators off her trail and possibly left the airport on foot or by some other means. They are pouring over all the security camera video, both inside and outside the airport, trying to see if maybe they can spot her, possibly even wearing a disguise at the airport.
BBM
Wouldn't someone walking to/from the airport raise suspicion and stand out? IMO the area around airports isn't all that walkable so I think it's more likely she took some form of public transportation or a cab.
 
  • #974
I posted this one earlier, it’s dated June 7 and says that GMA interviewed the father, and he had spoken to her five days earlier. Was that interview done back on May 24? If so, my apologies… and now it’s too late to edit my earlier post.


I meant to reply to your first post but got sidetracked. Media has been especially sloppy on this case. They may have updated that article which then updated the date on it.

Here is the "original" from May 24th. The correspondent spoke with KA's father the night before (so May 23rd).

 
  • #975
I meant to reply to your first post but got sidetracked. Media has been especially sloppy on this case. They may have updated that article which then updated the date on it.

Here is the "original" from May 24th. The correspondent spoke with KA's father the night before (so May 23rd).

Thank you @jash, much appreciated.
 
  • #976
By the 18th, the warrant had been issued only the day before. She may have taken an Uber to Newark LIberty, and paid for it with her own credit card and app. At that point, it is doubtful that anyone outside of Texas was looking for her. Speaking of which, is it possible that it has taken until the last few days to get all of her cellphone data, so that they were able to see that?? Seems they should have gotten it well before now. JMO
Maybe it took longer than we thought it should. I’m really in the dark about all of it at this point.
 
  • #977
IMO, no. An anonymous tipster may have called and reported the drop off, but the US Marshals wouldn’t confirm the airport as her last known location without having indisputable evidence that she was really there.
But if they have no time stamp or footage, what would this proof consist of?
ETA: @SteveP just answered this: her credit card still being used at that time.
 
  • #978
I found the audio from CNN (better than nothing). Jump ahead to 36:40.


[Randi Kaye speaking:]

I spoke with Deputy US Marshal [BF] and he told me that they are still trying to figure out who dropped Kaitlin Armstrong at Newark airport. He said that this was not some sort of mass transit drop; this was a private vehicle so they're still trying to figure that out. And of course they've searched the database. Nobody with her name shows up on any sort of outbound flight from Newark so they're trying to figure out if possibly she was traveling using a fake ID or maybe just using the airport to throw investigators off her trail and possibly left the airport on foot or by some other means. They are pouring over all the security camera video, both inside and outside the airport, trying to see if maybe they can spot her, possibly even wearing a disguise at the airport.
There goes the idea of Uber and credit card. They would know who dropped her off. This is baffling!
 
  • #979
But if they have no time stamp or footage, what would this proof consist of?

A cellphone ping and/or location data? Of course that assumes she was still using the phone registered to her (or that they were able to identify whichever phone she is currently using and glean information from that).

Looking forward to the next update from the US Marshals...
 
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