TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

[RickshawFan]

She is very pretty and that often causes people to take a second look. But I don't think it would take much (hat, glasses, different make-up) so that most people wouldn't make a connection unless they really looked. Also, Covid masks are really useful in this regard to cover her features and no one even thinks twice.

I also just noticed that the US Marshal poster for her says she was last "seen" being dropped off at Newark. So she was actually spotted by someone. But no indication of what she was wearing, unless indeed it was the same clothes she was seen in before.

Interesting. To me, she looks like 5 million other women in the US, a very conventional 30-something Caucasian, so I certainly wouldn't be giving her a second look. This would make it very difficult for detectives to spot her on a CC camera. It would need facial recognition IMO.

 

[SteveP]

I hope you’re right. Do you think this holds true even if she’s in Indonesia?

Despite many people feeling otherwise, I still think it is unlikely that KA has successfully fled the country. She had to know LE was looking for her already, and with a warrant for her arrest having been issued the day before she showed up at Newark Airport, I think the risk of getting caught trying to board a flight OUT of the US was far greater than the risk of being caught fleeing to some unknown location IN the US, but yes, IF she managed to get out of the country, I believe she still will be found, and ultimately returned here to face charges. JMO

 

[RickshawFan]

I wonder, though, if KA and CS would have kept their passports from expiring, since it sounds like there were races and biking events they attended around the world. I would imagine that LE knows by now if KA had a valid, unexpired passport and if it is missing from their home.

You raise an interesting point about many other countries requiring a visa from them in order to enter, along with a U.S. passport. One of the reasons I travel to NYC every year is to update my visa to the PRC, since that is the consulate that is assigned to my state, even though I am much closer to Chicago. Your post, and my experience with having to go to New York City to renew my visa every year, makes me wonder if KA went to NYC to get a visa. An expedited visa at the consulate I go to in NYC takes a few days. You pay more, but you can stay in town and then pick it up in person. It is not overnight, but 2-4 days makes sense. Interesting thought...

Great input....But KA is from TX, so going to NYC seems like it wouldn't be a regional assignment for a Visa.
I wonder if KA could have gone to Puerto Rico? She'd look like any other dishy-blond-long-hair-Caucasian tourist and blend right in. This would be cheap, and no passport would be required.

 

[PrairieWind]

Could you provide a link? I have seen it said that she was “seen” being dropped off at Newark by the media, but never by the US Marshals, thanks.

I stand corrected. I went back to look for the link and couldn't find it. When I eventually did find the exact poster I had seen before, I realized the sentence about "seen" at Newark was an added comment from the news article. Sorry about that folks.

 

[Cryptic]

Does LE patrol these unoccupied vacation homes to see if anyone is breaking in and occupying them?

Years ago in our family we were told that our unoccupied cabin was being broken into by high school kids who were using it as a private place to drink and hold parties.

That might vary depending on the place, but I imagine that they do not make regular patrols.

The article that I read about Big Bear said that the sheer number of usually unoccupied homes is essentially too large to keep track of.

The article then mentioned that the police are constantly flooded with false alarms (cousins arrived, then forgot to turn it off etc etc) as well as real alarms as the homes are a favorite target of area drug fueled pilfering the lawn furniture type crime or interior burglaries.

In the end, I am thinking that there are probably not patrols and that unless KA triggers an alarm, she is probably not going to be noticed by the police. Likewise, even if she triggers an alarm, the police might just do a drive by, not see signs of forced entry, then presume it was yet..... another false alarm at a vacation home.

 

[RickshawFan]

I hope you’re right. Do you think this holds true even if she’s in Indonesia?

Here are the State Department instructions for travel to Indonesia.... She'd have to get a 30-day visa on arrival, and renew at 30 days one time only.

Indonesia International Travel Information

Indonesia international travel information and Travel Advisory

travel.state.gov

So, yep, Bali would be a bad choice except temporarily.

And we're forgetting that your passport is logged in and stamped at any country you enter. There's a trail.... IIRC Even diplomatic passports get stamped, although they don't go through customs.

 

[jash]

I'm a bit surprised we have seen more photos of KA put out to help recognize her. But I am guessing her family maybe just isn't sharing any.

I agree. I was curious the other day about how she might look in 'normal, everyday' situations (not after a ride nor dolled up for a posed photo). I used PimEyes to do a free seach for photos of her on the internet. As to be expected, it mostly returned the same photos that are circulating in relation to this case but it did return two or three photos that I'm 90% sure are her (in one the hair was up and in the other it was in a long braid; in the third, a cycling helmet is worn). I would have had to pay $30 to get the source of the photos so I didn't go any further.

I found out about PimEyes from this article: www.nytimes.com/2022/05/26/technology/pimeyes-facial-recognition-search.html. It's pretty scary -- one of the reporters who was used as a test subject discovered he had been captured in the background of a photo someone took at an airport. It can even make positive matches when the subject is wearing a mask or sunglasses. Sadly, the service can be used for nefarious purposes.

 

[SMK777]

I stand corrected. I went back to look for the link and couldn't find it. When I eventually did find the exact poster I had seen before, I realized the sentence about "seen" at Newark was an add from the news article. Sorry about that folks.

No worries. There’s so much to keep track of. But I don’t think she was ever seen being dropped off. Media jumped to that conclusion.

 

[SMK777]

@Cryptic
You quoted my post but didn’t put your response in?

 

[Cryptic]

@Cryptic
You quoted my post but didn’t put your response in?

Ooops, check now. I had computer problems and it locked up on me.

 

[SMK777]

That might vary depending on the place, but I imagine that they do not make regular patrols.

The article that I read about Big Bear said that the sheer number of usually unoccupied homes is essentially too large to keep track of.

The article then mentioned that the police are constantly flooded with false alarms (cousins arrived, then forgot to turn it off etc etc) as well as real alarms as the homes are a favorite target of area drug fueled pilfering the lawn furniture type crime or interior burglaries.

In the end, I am thinking that there are probably not patrols and that unless KA triggers an alarm, she is probably not going to be noticed by the police. Likewise, even if she triggers an alarm, the police might just do a drive by, not see signs of forced entry, then presume it was yet..... another false alarm at a vacation home.

Thanks. I guess if she’s doing something like this it’s pretty safe for her, at least as far as patrols go.

 

[nao]

Moo. She is female, be on look out for male always seems to gain more traction....moo
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[PrairieWind]

No worries. There’s so much to keep track of. But I don’t think she was ever seen being dropped off. Media jumped to that conclusion.

Yep. As far as I know LE hasn't clarified how they know she was dropped off at Newark. It is kind of curious. Maybe they don't want KA to know how they know that.

 

[SMK777]

Yep. As far as I know LE hasn't clarified how they know she was dropped off at Newark. It is kind of curious. Maybe they don't want KA to know how they know that.

Probably. But it could also be that they got an anonymous tip that they were convinced was authentic.

I just wish there’d be another US Marshals update. I’d like to hear she was seen today— not 3 weeks ago.

 

[PrairieWind]

Probably. But it could also be that they got an anonymous tip that they were convinced was authentic.

I just wish there’d be another US Marshals update. I’d like to hear she was seen today— not 3 weeks ago.

Seems the Marshals are very confident in the report. They said she WAS dropped off. Not, "a witness claims..." or "her credit card was used at....." Interesting choice of words I think.

 

[SMK777]

Seems the Marshals are very confident in the report. They said she WAS dropped off. Not, "a witness claims..." or "her credit card was used at....." Interesting choice of words I think.

Yes, I just wish we knew what they’re really referring to.

 

[GDawg89]

Does LE patrol these unoccupied vacation homes to see if anyone is breaking in and occupying them?

Years ago in our family we were told that our unoccupied cabin was being broken into by high school kids who were using it as a private place to drink and hold parties.

I realize you envision KA having been given a key but LE might not be aware of that. Just brainstorming….

@Cryptic@SMK777
IMO..I tend to think it depends on how remote the cabin/home/condo is located. At this time of the year in ski resort towns, population has decreased considerably down to the base local population. I don't believe LE necessarily patrols vacation homes but one way she could get caught is if a neighbor who lives year around next door calls LE instead of the out of town homeowner to report a suspicious person i.e... the looking out for the neighborhood, see something say something deal.

Now if KA is in a remote cabin given a key by the "BFF", and has transportation of some sort, and drives the 10,20,30 miles to nearest supermarkets, bars, restaurants, pedicure, yoga, botox etc...frequently, gets to know new people maybe, it's gonna end for her at some point. She is on TV more in last week than first 4. Then again, many up in the mountains do not have cable TV, they would have to be aware of KA Most Wanted case maybe by cell phone news like NEWSBREAK. AMOO

 

[GDawg89]

Here are the State Department instructions for travel to Indonesia.... She'd have to get a 30-day visa on arrival, and renew at 30 days one time only.

Indonesia International Travel Information

Indonesia international travel information and Travel Advisory

travel.state.gov

So, yep, Bali would be a bad choice except temporarily.

And we're forgetting that your passport is logged in and stamped at any country you enter. There's a trail.... IIRC Even diplomatic passports get stamped, although they don't go through customs.

Interesting on the VISA...did not know this. Learned something new, apprec

 

[SMK777]

@Cryptic@SMK777
IMO..I tend to think it depends on how remote the cabin/home/condo is located. At this time of the year in ski resort towns, population has decreased considerably down to the base local population. I don't believe LE necessarily patrols vacation homes but one way she could get caught is if a neighbor who lives year around next door calls LE instead of the out of town homeowner to report a suspicious person i.e... the looking out for the neighborhood, see something say something deal.

Now if KA is in a remote cabin given a key by the "BFF", and has transportation of some sort, and drives the 10,20,30 miles to nearest supermarkets, bars, restaurants, pedicure, yoga, botox etc...frequently, gets to know new people maybe, it's gonna end for her at some point. She is on TV more in last week than first 4. Then again, many up in the mountains do not have cable TV, they would have to be aware of KA Most Wanted case maybe by cell phone news like NEWSBREAK. AMOO

True. From various shows about fugitives being caught (that I’ve seen on YouTube over the years), I was always surprised at how all it took was one “nosey” or curious or vigilant person to bring the whole house of cards down with one call. We saw this recently with the Vicky and Casey White case: All it took was one call from a curious car wash manager and it was over.

 

[Sundog]

I hope you’re right. Do you think this holds true even if she’s in Indonesia?

It might take longer, but some ex-pat might notice her and eventually figure it out and report it.