TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

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  • #461
Are there still unmonitored paved roads or trails between the US and Canada that she could take? I was under the impression that all paved border crossings now require motor vehicles and bicycles alike to present passports or similar advanced identification (driver’s licenses no longer being sufficient on their own). Not to say that she couldn’t have simply walked a bike across the border in a remote location without detection! MOO.
Great question. Absolutely yes. All major roads are monitored, but there are a ton of easy unmonitored crosses like this one, easy for regular humans - much less an experienced off-road biker. Gotta love how communities solved for border security with our friendly neighbor :) (two cul-de-sacs!) This particular one connects just north of Champlain, NY to Roxham, Quebec. Roxham Road - Wikipedia
 
  • #462
A few thoughts

- LE definitely knows if she used her passport to fly internationally beyond LGA and/or board a ship at Cape Liberty in Bayonne. If she did, they are reserving that info because they don’t want to spook her out of wherever she went.

- LE probably knows if she used Uber or Lyft or an airport cab to leave LGA. If she used the subway or LIRR, it’s likely she used a personal card to get a Metrocard or ticket, so they’d know that too. It is very difficult to pay cash for a Metrocard in that station, and they’d have her on video in there anyway. … the two toughest exits for tracking would be if she took a bus, or if she had a friend pick her up.

- My theory on what she did: I think she used Uber or Lyft to head into Manhattan, probably to somewhere known in yoga circles. I think she then paid cash for a performance bike or potentially stole one. If I’m her, and I have her degree of bike fitness and the clothes on my back, and it’s May and the weather is beautiful - I’m riding north. (what I’m about to describe would be dangerous and freezing in the winter)

- I think she is biking through upstate NY toward Canada. She’s originally from Michigan. This will feel like familiar terrain and temperatures. Up through the Hudson Valley to start. Hostels, camping, crashing with people in the Adirondack community. Fake name, shorter hair, backpack full of cash.

- She can pass into Canada on a bike without being stopped, much less needing a passport.

will be curious to see what happens next.
i like your biking theory
 
  • #463
i like your biking theory
Glad! Some small possibility it’s right … if I’m her I’m in Thailand or the northern UK, but if that didn’t unfold I think this is plausible. <modsnip>
 
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  • #464
Do you think she may have risked that, or is it really too risky? If the US Marshals saw, for example, that she had taken a flight to the Bahamas, or to London, they could just call ahead and have her arrested when her flight landed…..
Very good point; this is a bright woman. She woke up morning of May 14 and had choices:

1) she could fly a regional airline with a connection in Houston-Hobby, then to New York, and then, if she chose, connect again or
2) she could fly internationally direct from AUS to London, to Frankfurt, Amsterdam, etc. Plenty of options. Even more options had she been willing to drive the Jeep to IAH (Bush) in Houston, which is just a few hours away and is a major United hub.

It’s always been a little weird that she chose 1, right? There are other airlines with direct flights from AUS-JFK, so if the goal was to get to NYC there were much easier and price-competitive ways than an onerous connection at Houston-Hobby. Also, she flew Southwest, which isn’t a huge rewards airline. Why I mention this: I fly a lot, a lot lot. I will do almost anything to fly United because they spoil me and reward me and discount my tix, etc. Southwest isn’t like that.

So I ask myself, why did she choose that?

I think she chose that to test whether she could get on a plane and if she was going to be arrested if she tried.
It’s much harder to prove “she was trying to abscond” if she’s got a regional connection on her way to NYC, where surely she has friends. A quality attorney could argue she was just going to see friends. I think she picked this route to test the waters.
Had she booked like London-Heathrow with BA from Austin, I think she was worried she’d get arrested on boarding or worse deported back into custody from British customs.

I think this very bright woman set up a test. In her white jeans.
 
  • #465
Great question. Absolutely yes. All major roads are monitored, but there are a ton of easy unmonitored crosses like this one, easy for regular humans - much less an experienced off-road biker. Gotta love how communities solved for border security with our friendly neighbor :) (two cul-de-sacs!) This particular one connects just north of Champlain, NY to Roxham, Quebec. Roxham Road - Wikipedia
Thanks for posting--beautiful route.
 
  • #466
Great question. Absolutely yes. All major roads are monitored, but there are a ton of easy unmonitored crosses like this one, easy for regular humans - much less an experienced off-road biker. Gotta love how communities solved for border security with our friendly neighbor :) (two cul-de-sacs!) This particular one connects just north of Champlain, NY to Roxham, Quebec. Roxham Road - Wikipedia

We had a cottage in LaColle in the late 1960s and early 1970s when I was growing up in Quebec, and my mother and I crossed this border regularly, often just to go to the laundromat that was across the border in NY state. Often we had to beep the horn several times to wake up the border guard as he would be napping in the small wooden booth/cabin that was on the Canadian side. He would wake up and just wave us through, assuming we were locals. I haven't been back there in many years since I moved to the U.S., but I assume it is much more difficult to cross there now without being seen.

ETA: I am referring to the border crossing that is discussed in the above post and described at the Wikipedia link.
 
  • #467
I guess I need to get out more.
I'm still puzzled over the whole travel thing. She flew on May 14th and the US Marshalls announced on May 25th that she was captured on video at the TX airport on the 14th. Did (a) it take them 10 days to check the passenger lists or (b) did she fly using false ID and it took ten days because matching faces (especially in the era of Covid) takes manpower?
My hunch is that she flew under a false ID and continued on to an international destination after landing in NYC. If she flew to Cleveland, I'd say she was in Ohio. But NYC is such an international hub which I think is why she chose it. Getting a false passport isn't an easy thing, but IF she planned this in advance by getting a gun in January, then she had sometime to get that in place. And I think LE knows she left the US, but of course has their own reasons for keeping that to themselves.
For my part, I took my road bike out today and kept out a careful eye for attractive female bicyclists. Did not see her ;)

NYC is a huge hub, but if I were to escape using a false ID, I would not choose NYC (or DC, for that matter). They are all overwhelmed, but might compensate by decent quality of the border patrol agents.

I, too, made some mental connection between Nepal and yoga mat on her shoulders. Could be Bali, or Thailand. I paid attention to the Botox 4 years ago (at 29?). Thailand is the Mecca of different procedures, cosmetic and more, it, too, needs to be monitored.

Now I remember the phrase by David, CS’s friend, quoted in the Daily Mail. “If she wanted to, she could have retired at 34”. I wonder if one retires and leaves, how does one get rid of the property? Is there any existing connection between the fugitive and someone managing her property/sending money?
 
  • #468
Technology has radically changed identification. Short of having the help of an intelligence service, which I am confident KA did not and does not, there is no fake passport or even fake drivers license for domestic travel. This is all scanned and database cross-matched now.

I do think there’s a possibility she flew internationally from LGA and LE is reserving information about where she went, so as not to spook her from running again and give themselves time to work out an arrest and extradition. She spent some time abroad earlier in her life. If she spent any time in east Asia … Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam … that is a very solid potential destination for her. Extremely inexpensive, expat-friendly, bike/yoga culture with a lot of cash jobs.
And I’m assuming that if she did in fact use her passport to travel internationally, that LE has had them put an arrest-hold on it, so that the next time she presents it as ID anywhere, she’ll be detained?
 
  • #469
I just caught up on this really sad case,. It reminds me of Brenda Delgado and her killing her rival, Kendra Hatcher. Brenda used a hitman though, but she also fleed. She went to Mexico but was eventually caught.

While I have little sympathy for CS and his playing of these two women, I feel pretty strongly that KA acted of her own volition. Her fleeing only strengthens that belief.

I just hope that she is found before she leaves the country, if she has an already. I agree with those that think Thailand is probably a good place for her. Question is does she have the means to get there? Did her father provide funds for her?

MW seems like such a bright light. So sad and senseless.
 
  • #470
I just caught up on this really sad case,. It reminds me of Brenda Delgado and her killing her rival, Kendra Hatcher. Brenda used a hitman though, but she also fleed. She went to Mexico but was eventually caught.

While I have little sympathy for CS and his playing of these two women, I feel pretty strongly that KA acted of her own volition. Her fleeing only strengthens that belief.

I just hope that she is found before she leaves the country, if she has an already. I agree with those that think Thailand is probably a good place for her. Question is does she have the means to get there? Did her father provide funds for her?

MW seems like such a bright light. So sad and senseless.
Yes, it’s really ridiculous and horrendously tragic that this young woman had to die at 25. I don’t know how her family is able to bear it. Hard to believe that KA actually thought it was something to do. Nothing was gained and everything was lost.

From all I have read it seems KA likely has access to a good amount of $$$, but unless she’s able to take it all out in cash, she’ll be tracked through her bank or credit cards at some point.
 
  • #471
NYC is a huge hub, but if I were to escape using a false ID, I would not choose NYC (or DC, for that matter). They are all overwhelmed, but might compensate by decent quality of the border patrol agents.

I, too, made some mental connection between Nepal and yoga mat on her shoulders. Could be Bali, or Thailand. I paid attention to the Botox 4 years ago (at 29?). Thailand is the Mecca of different procedures, cosmetic and more, it, too, needs to be monitored.

Now I remember the phrase by David, CS’s friend, quoted in the Daily Mail. “If she wanted to, she could have retired at 34”. I wonder if one retires and leaves, how does one get rid of the property? Is there any existing connection between the fugitive and someone managing her property/sending money?
Good question about the real estate she supposedly owns. I would assume nothing could be done with anything she owns until the missing person is declared dead (i.e., perhaps never found), which could take a very long time. So what does that mean for property of hers that's in the shared home with CS? If she isn't located for a long time, can he just legally toss it? Does he have to pay for a storage unit and have it moved?
 
  • #472

Is she likely to do as they say and turn herself in?

US Marshals’ message to Texas love triangle murder suspect​

 
  • #473
Good question about the real estate she supposedly owns. I would assume nothing could be done with anything she owns until the missing person is declared dead (i.e., perhaps never found), which could take a very long time. So what does that mean for property of hers that's in the shared home with CS? If she isn't located for a long time, can he just legally toss it? Does he have to pay for a storage unit and have it moved?
It might depend on the form of ownership, particularly for the rental properties if she still owns them. They might be held in an LLC with others named as managers to be able to execute transactions. It's also possible she gave a power of attorney to her lawyer before she left so he/she could act on KA's behalf.
 
  • #474
NYC is a huge hub, but if I were to escape using a false ID, I would not choose NYC (or DC, for that matter). They are all overwhelmed, but might compensate by decent quality of the border patrol agents.

I, too, made some mental connection between Nepal and yoga mat on her shoulders. Could be Bali, or Thailand. I paid attention to the Botox 4 years ago (at 29?). Thailand is the Mecca of different procedures, cosmetic and more, it, too, needs to be monitored.

Now I remember the phrase by David, CS’s friend, quoted in the Daily Mail. “If she wanted to, she could have retired at 34”. I wonder if one retires and leaves, how does one get rid of the property? Is there any existing connection between the fugitive and someone managing her property/sending money?

Might she have called her father and told him not to ask questions but that she had to leave town for awhile and she gave him power of attorney over her properties? Or maybe she has a property management company already managing them (collecting rents, arranging for repairs, advertising for new tenants when one moves out, etc.). They are quite affordable in our community and many have good reputations and they are used by many landlords in our community who own multiple rental properties.
 
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It might depend on the form of ownership, particularly for the rental properties if she still owns them. They might be held in an LLC with others named as managers to be able to execute transactions. It's also possible she gave a power of attorney to her lawyer before she left so he/she could act on KA's behalf.
Good point. Although, if the lawyer or LLC, etc., then sold the property and dispersed the funds "somewhere" wouldn't that be assisting a criminal? It'd be obvious that the money from a sale is being sent somewhere mysterious and being used.
 
  • #476

Is she likely to do as they say and turn herself in?

US Marshals’ message to Texas love triangle murder suspect​


Below is an interesting quote from the above article.
“This is totally heat of the moment,” [a professor of homeland security] said. “It happened, but she’s not really prepared to be vanished.”
I am unsure what, if any, inside knowledge the quoted professor possesses, but they seem to believe that there was no pre-fabricated get-away plan (e.g., fake IDs or passports).
 
  • #477
Below is an interesting quote from the above article.

I am unsure what, if any, inside knowledge the quoted professor possesses, but they seem to believe that there was no pre-fabricated get-away plan (e.g., fake IDs or passports).
Yes, interesting. And yet, she’s done rather well thus far….
 
  • #478

Is she likely to do as they say and turn herself in?

US Marshals’ message to Texas love triangle murder suspect​


I think she might do it if she has already found a good lawyer either on her own or with her father's help.
 
  • #479
I think she might do it if she has already found a good lawyer either on her own or with her father's help.
I wonder. Maybe so, because it has to be stressful and expensive to live as a fugitive.
 
  • #480
I think she might do it if she has already found a good lawyer either on her own or with her father's help.
I've been reading along but not commenting. My thoughts from the beginning have been that she really has three choices. She can continue to run, turn herself in, or sadly she may have considered ending her life. I hope she chooses to turn herself in.
 
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