TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

[SMK777]

I agree, at the very least, they should have her leaving the airport. In addition to taxis perhaps ubers (NYC taxis drivers may have the political pull to keep them out of the airport), city buses to key subway stations are very common.

If I remember right, the bus is free- facilitates people leaving the airport. This could make it an attractive way out for a fugitive with a cash crunch. A common bus ride from La Guardia is the one to the Jackson Heights subway station / hub in Queens.

Once out of La Guardia, did she stay in NYC? Going to any "crunchy" town e- ski towns and other trendy outdoorsy towns with a fitness / biking / alt health vibe would seem too risky in regards to recognition. Most rural areas though, would not have those vibes at all.

If she stayed in NYC, are there any "start over" areas for 35 year olds? Perhaps Times Square's vast restaurant / entertainment zones looking for wait staff- with an eye out for attractive employees of either sex? Maybe the Broadway area as theatre support staff or venue staff?

Likewise, I think some parts of Brooklyn (DUMBO and nearby?) have a lot of transplants who arrived due to a tech boom centered on small start up companies. My neighbor's son went for the boom- and now says NYC is his forever home.

Good points and info.

One question: How would KA apply for a job without revealing her true name and identity?

 

[SteveP]

KA has now been on the run and has eluded capture for almost three weeks. A week ago, I felt like LE probably knew where she was, and would soon have her in custody. A week later, I now fear that they really did lose her footprint when she arrived at LaGuardia, and they may have no idea where she is. At this point, I believe someone must have assisted her, and perhaps still is, if she remains somewhere in the USA. She has to have somewhere to stay, and I think, even if she has taken steps to disguise her appearance and is using a fake id, it would be risky to try to use hotels or venture out in public, although it should be easier to get lost in a large city. If she is still in the states, I feel like someone has been, and may be, helping her with accommodations. Despite being a fit cycler, I do not see her staying off the grid, sleeping in a bedroll in the wilderness, and cooking with a camp stove. I really believe, today at least, (I may change my mind tomorrow), that she has successfully left the country, perhaps for somewhere in Southeast Asia, and LE is possibly still looking for a needle in a haystack. Having said that, at some point, she will make perhaps one small slip-up, and that will be all it takes to bring her in. I do believe that will happen. JMO

 

[Cryptic]

Good points and info.

One question: How would KA apply for a job without revealing her true name and identity?

I think it would depend on her ability to find an employer who is willing to accept fuzzy ID and not ask alot of questions about "hard luck" stories or "complicated" stories.

For example, A restaurant, bar, theatre venue tattoo parlor etc with a lot of turn over that is now screaming for employees:

"All you have is a Costco ID with the name 'Sally Runner' and a vague story about an abusive boyfriend taking everything else? Ok- lots of people here have uhmm... "unique" situations. No, not gonna look closely at your Social Security card. Jenny will show you around. She is a waitress by day and an aspiring 'tat artist by night- she also has a story of her own."

 

[SMK777]

KA has now been on the run and has eluded capture for almost three weeks. A week ago, I felt like LE probably knew where she was, and would soon have her in custody. A week later, I now fear that they really did lose her footprint when she arrived at LaGuardia, and they may have no idea where she is. At this point, I believe someone must have assisted her, and perhaps still is, if she remains somewhere in the USA. She has to have somewhere to stay, and I think, even if she has taken steps to disguise her appearance and is using a fake id, it would be risky to try to use hotels or venture out in public, although it should be easier to get lost in a large city. If she is still in the states, I feel like someone has been, and may be, helping her with accommodations. Despite being a fit cycler, I do not see her staying off the grid, sleeping in a bedroll in the wilderness, and cooking with a camp stove. I really believe, today at least, (I may change my mind tomorrow), that she has successfully left the country, perhaps for somewhere in Southeast Asia, and LE is possibly still looking for a needle in a haystack. Having said that, at some point, she will make perhaps one small slip-up, and that will be all it takes to bring her in. I do believe that will happen. JMO

I’m more or less feeling the same way. I wonder if her father (since he stressed his belief that she’s completely innocent) has helped her in any way?

In addition to what you say about the physical hardships and difficulties of camping out in the wilderness, etc., I also believe that we now live in an era (as opposed to, say, the 1940s through’60s) where police and rangers are much more vigilant about people “camping out”— there are ID requirements, paid permit requirements, surveillance cameras, computerized checks connecting all the states in a database…..I just don’t think it’s that easy anymore to hide away in the woods, as we also found out with Vicky White and Casey White.

 

[SMK777]

Having said that, at some point, she will make perhaps one small slip-up, and that will be all it takes to bring her in. I do believe that will happen. JMO

Do you think it will be soon? I know you nor any of us really have any idea, I just mean what is your basic intuition on it?

 

[Cryptic]

In addition to what you say about the physical hardships and difficulties of camping out in the wilderness, etc., I also believe that we now live in an era (as opposed to, say, the 1940s through’60s) where police and rangers are much more vigilant about people “camping out”— there are ID requirements, paid permit requirements, surveillance cameras, computerized checks connecting all the states in a database...

Good point.

All the State Parks in Texas have very regular patrols, recorded check ins, and policies designed to prevent semi permanent camping via manipulation ("OK, I stayed my time limit in spot 23C- I"ll leave, and come back tomorrow for two weeks at 9A").

National forests here might be a little more lenient (but I have not seen semi permanent campers in them). They also mix lots of creepy crawlies with no creature comforts what so ever.

Other forum members mentioned that National Parks also require permits, document who they are given to, and conduct regular patrols even in remote areas to find and then boot any permanent campers. BLM land, National forests could well be more lenient nation wide- but all lack creature comforts.

 

[NOLAScottie]

This weekend is the Unbound Gravel event in Emporia, KS. (UNBOUND Gravel - The World’s premier Gravel event). This is the event that CS won a few years ago in 2019 and both CS and MW competed in last year. (YOne can search participants by year via the link). Wondering if there will be some LE there just in case KA were to show up looking for anyone. A curious thought at least. It is often referred to as the "Superbowl of gravel."

 

[GDawg89]

So do you think they’re holding back some information on where KA went from La Guardia?

Right, you have to ask yourself, what benefit would withholding info be for LE? We can surmise on the reason and..

IMO..If LE publicizes that they know she left LAG airport terminal and went to NYC via public or a friend by transportation on Level 1, KA could possibly plan to move from current first location which could benefit LE & public help by increase in chances of being recognized while on the move OR...

Per LE statement "we lost footprint" at Laguardia, KA probably is aware of this statement by LE, and may be inclined to stay in current first stay location for an extended period with a "I am safe here, I escaped". And LE's internal purpose is we have leads based on calls or video of her leaving LAG, it is taking time to investigate each of them and by not releasing more info, they are gambling that KA will stay in the first stay location. Essentially, LE is buying time to trace leads based on info they are withholding.

Thoughts anyone on other reasons..?

 

[jash]

Came across some quotes from KA's father I hadn't seen before. I get it's hard for him but he's really reaching here...

"They were in a long-term relationship, and they were living together. I know the media has portrayed her as a romantic rival, but that's not the case. He was cheating on her with Anna Wilson."

"It was obvious that he was cheating on Kaitlin with Miss. Wilson and perhaps other women as well,” [KA's father] said. "My question is where were those other women the night that Anna was killed?"

Her mother is also quoted saying she has no idea where KA is.

Livonia native wanted in Texas for murder of professional cyclist

Authorities are searching for a metro Detroit native who is wanted for murder of another woman who was allegedly seeing her boyfriend.

www.wxyz.com

 

[Hapworth]

I agree, at the very least, they should have her leaving the airport. In addition to taxis and perhaps ubers (NYC taxis drivers may have the political pull to keep them out of the airport?), city buses to key subway stations are very common.

If I remember right, the bus is free- facilitates people leaving the airport. This could make it an attractive way out for a fugitive with a cash crunch. A common bus ride from La Guardia is the one to the Jackson Heights subway station / hub in Queens.

Once out of La Guardia, did she stay in NYC? Going to any "crunchy" town- ski towns and other trendy outdoorsy towns with a fitness, cycling, alt health vibe would seem too risky in regards to recognition. Most rural areas though, would not have those vibes at all.

If she stayed in NYC, are there any "start over" areas for 35 year olds? Perhaps Times Square's vast restaurant / entertainment zones looking for wait staff- with an eye out for attractive employees of either sex? Maybe the Broadway area as theatre support staff or venue staff?

Likewise, I think some parts of Brooklyn (DUMBO and nearby?) have a lot of transplants who arrived due to a tech boom centered on small start up companies. My neighbor's son went for the boom in Brooklyn- and now says NYC, and not TX, is his

I agree, at the very least, they should have her leaving the airport. In addition to taxis and perhaps ubers (NYC taxis drivers may have the political pull to keep them out of the airport?), city buses to key subway stations are very common.

If I remember right, the bus is free- facilitates people leaving the airport. This could make it an attractive way out for a fugitive with a cash crunch. A common bus ride from La Guardia is the one to the Jackson Heights subway station / hub in Queens.

Once out of La Guardia, did she stay in NYC? Going to any "crunchy" town- ski towns and other trendy outdoorsy towns with a fitness, cycling, alt health vibe would seem too risky in regards to recognition. Most rural areas though, would not have those vibes at all.

If she stayed in NYC, are there any "start over" areas for 35 year olds? Perhaps Times Square's vast restaurant / entertainment zones looking for wait staff- with an eye out for attractive employees of either sex? Maybe the Broadway area as theatre support staff or venue staff?

Likewise, I think some parts of Brooklyn (DUMBO and nearby?) have a lot of transplants who arrived due to a tech boom centered on small start up companies. My neighbor's son went for the boom in Brooklyn- and now says NYC, and not TX, is his forever home.

 

[Hapworth]

I agree, at the very least, they should have her leaving the airport. In addition to taxis and perhaps ubers (NYC taxis drivers may have the political pull to keep them out of the airport?), city buses to key subway stations are very common.

If I remember right, the bus is free- facilitates people leaving the airport. This could make it an attractive way out for a fugitive with a cash crunch. A common bus ride from La Guardia is the one to the Jackson Heights subway station / hub in Queens.

Once out of La Guardia, did she stay in NYC? Going to any "crunchy" town- ski towns and other trendy outdoorsy towns with a fitness, cycling, alt health vibe would seem too risky in regards to recognition. Most rural areas though, would not have those vibes at all.

If she stayed in NYC, are there any "start over" areas for 35 year olds? Perhaps Times Square's vast restaurant / entertainment zones looking for wait staff- with an eye out for attractive employees of either sex? Maybe the Broadway area as theatre support staff or venue staff?

Likewise, I think some parts of Brooklyn (DUMBO and nearby?) have a lot of transplants who arrived due to a tech boom centered on small start up companies. My neighbor's son went for the boom in Brooklyn- and now says NYC, and not TX, is his forever home.

The Hudson Valley ( I87 or Taconic State Pkwy) from NYC heading North up to the Capital Region of Albany is full of retreats, primarily Zen or Mahayana. Yoga retreats are all around the valley up even into Western Massachusetts.
Food for thought .

 

[Hapworth]

I87 North, leaves NYC, passes through Albany/Saratoga on up into the Adirondack Region, right into Canada, Montreal to be specific.

 

[caradana]

The Hudson Valley ( I87 or Taconic State Pkwy) from NYC heading North up to the Capital Region of Albany is full of retreats, primarily Zen or Mahayana. Yoga retreats are all around the valley up even into Western Massachusetts.
Food for thought .

Yes. I think if she stayed in the US, she very likely went into the city, got a bike, and started a summer ride north - not bedroll camping and roasting squirrels in the wilderness style, more like retreats, the homes of people in the yoga community, etc. This is a reasonably technically savvy woman (built the Wheelhouse website, etc.) - she was probably involved in a lot of web communities and forums around her interests, under a pseudonym just like all of us She could easily be rolling through the gorgeous Adirondacks as “Becky from Nebraska” right now with much shorter dyed hair.

 

[SMK777]

Yes. I think if she stayed in the US, she very likely went into the city, got a bike, and started a summer ride north - not bedroll camping and roasting squirrels in the wilderness style, more like retreats, the homes of people in the yoga community, etc. This is a reasonably technically savvy woman (built the Wheelhouse website, etc.) - she was probably involved in a lot of web communities and forums around her interests, under a pseudonym just like all of us She could easily be rolling through the gorgeous Adirondacks as “Becky from Nebraska” right now with much shorter dyed hair.

I wonder if anyone would still recognize her by face, yoga-involvement— unless this case is really so low-profile that no one would even be thinking of the fugitive from Austin.

I recall people asking how Casey White could be so stupid as to allow his tattoos to be exposed but he figured :

-He was way outside Alabama, no one would be thinking of him.
- there wouldn’t be cctv or it wouldn’t be checked
- the car wash manager would not be thinking of the case

He was wrong on all counts. Could KA be, too? Or is she going to be right and remain undetected?

 

[Mariposa]

I wonder if anyone would still recognize her by face, yoga-involvement— unless this case is really so low-profile that no one would even be thinking of the fugitive from Austin.

I recall people asking how Casey White could be so stupid as to allow his tattoos to be exposed but he figured :

-He was way outside Alabama, no one would be thinking of him.
- there wouldn’t be cctv or it wouldn’t be checked
- the car wash manager would not be thinking of the case

He was wrong on all counts. Could KA be, too? Or is she going to be right and remain undetected?

Casey White was a HUGE dude, very big and tall and therefore catches people’s attention.

I think KA can really fade in the woodwork, she looks very different in different pictures and that was before she had the fugitive motive to really change it up. There should be a big gallery of pictures and videos of her put out by the US Marshals so the public can see her in different looks, how she walks, what she sounds like when she’s speaking. But … this does NOT seem to be happening.

 

[cujenn81]

very interesting idea about the reason for getting the guns--from all reports Wilson seems like a very agreeable, personable well-liked bicyclist. A few news articles said that Armstrong had contacted Wilson to tell her to stay away from Strickland. Why Wilson and Strickland met for a swim and dinner the evening of her murder is a big question mark for me.

Throughout my teen years and well into my 20s, my best friend was a boy who lived a few houses down from me. And nearly every single girl he dated tried to get me to stay away from him. A few even threatened to beat my A-DOUBLE-S if I didn’t heed their warning (he seemed to attract the most rabid of the bunch).

I just laughed or ignored them. Sometimes I assured them we were ONLY friends, but I also made it clear that her jealousy and insecurities weren’t going to change our relationship.

Because I refused to let some girl I didn’t even know dictate who my friends were or control my life. Maybe MW felt the same way? Or maybe I’m just lucky that nobody murdered me.

 

[minneolo]

Whenever there is a case where you could theorize that someone was on the run, I ask myself: How long would I last?

And no matter how much I think it through… the answer is always “a couple weeks, tops”. I’m fit, digitally savvy, and well traveled (30+ countries, many solo). In my opinion, it isn’t too hard for someone to be a ‘fugitive’ for several days, especially if they have a head start. In contrast, I think it would be extremely difficult to avoid apprehension longer term without at least one (ideally 2+) of the following:

1. A network of accomplices
2. A significant set of naturalist / survivalist skills (beyond camping / backpacking)
3. A pile of cash

In this case, I don’t think its likely KA has any of them. I can imagine her getting to NYC with friends / the yoga community and remaining ‘underground’ for a couple days. But now I think she’d need significant help (requires someone ready to risk their own aiding / abetting charges) or significant resources (requires significant advanced planning). At this point, I think I’m leaning self-harm once the gravity of the situation / KA’s lack of options became clear to her. Hope I’m wrong.

 

[SMK777]

Whenever there is a case where you could theorize that someone was on the run, I ask myself: How long would I last?

And no matter how much I think it through… the answer is always “a couple weeks, tops”. I’m fit, digitally savvy, and well traveled (30+ countries, many solo). In my opinion, it isn’t too hard for someone to be a ‘fugitive’ for several days, especially if they have a head start. In contrast, I think it would be extremely difficult to avoid apprehension longer term without at least one (ideally 2+) of the following:

1. A network of accomplices
2. A significant set of naturalist / survivalist skills (beyond camping / backpacking)
3. A pile of cash

In this case, I don’t think its likely KA has any of them. I can imagine her getting to NYC with friends / the yoga community and remaining ‘underground’ for a couple days. But now I think she’d need significant help (requires someone ready to risk their own aiding / abetting charges) or significant resources (requires significant advanced planning). At this point, I think I’m leaning self-harm once the gravity of the situation / KA’s lack of options became clear to her. Hope I’m wrong.

I see what you mean. I wonder if LE is concluding the same, and perhaps working with her father to get him to talk her into coming back to meet with an attorney? He must be worried about her.

 

[Sundog]

I think KA's father may be working on getting an attorney for KA and if and when KA calls him next, he will try to get her to contact the attorney directly. I don't think that self-harm is KA's next step, I think she has a strong survival instnct, and I think her father will be able to help her get legal representation and eventually the lawyer will arrange for her to turn herself in.

 

[WingsOverTX]

I agree, at the very least, they should have her leaving the airport. In addition to taxis and perhaps ubers (NYC taxis drivers may have the political pull to keep them out of the airport?), city buses to key subway stations are very common.

If I remember right, the bus is free- facilitates people leaving the airport. This could make it an attractive way out for a fugitive with a cash crunch. A common bus ride from La Guardia is the one to the Jackson Heights subway station / hub in Queens.

Once out of La Guardia, did she stay in NYC? Going to any "crunchy" town- ski towns and other trendy outdoorsy towns with a fitness, cycling, alt health vibe would seem too risky in regards to recognition. Most rural areas though, would not have those vibes at all.

If she stayed in NYC, are there any "start over" areas for 35 year olds? Perhaps Times Square's vast restaurant / entertainment zones looking for wait staff- with an eye out for attractive employees of either sex? Maybe the Broadway area as theatre support staff or venue staff?

Likewise, I think some parts of Brooklyn (DUMBO and nearby?) have a lot of transplants who arrived due to a tech boom centered on small start up companies. My neighbor's son went for the boom in Brooklyn- and now says NYC, and not TX, is his forever home.

Unless she's working "under the table" or under a stolen SSN with an assumed named, employment paper work (I-9 forms) and the reporting of wages to the IRS will help locate her.

MOO