TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #2

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Speaking in generalities as someone with experience in family court here in Bexar County, and all that follows being my personal opinion: A judge isn’t going to remove a child/children based on domestic violence (proven or not) between two adults. The children would have to be in danger for a judge to remove them, especially from a custodial mother. Right or wrong, this is how it works. Judges won’t remove kids based on what *might* happen, and there’s no evidence to suggest authorities had ever been contacted due to domestic violence between NO and CW. The girls’ fathers had absolutely zero legal reason to ask a judge to change custody.

I don't believe you are correct. A judge has to act in the best interest of the child and the father of one child has made public comments that indicate he and at least one other person did have concerns:
'The home she was living in, we just feel it wasn't a great place for our children to have been loved.'


These two children could articulate what they observed to their fathers and also to a judge. It isn't impossible to remove a child from a custodial parent when children are unhappy living in a household of a man to which the children have no biological relationship.
JMO

Boyfriend of Texas mom found shot dead with daughters shouldn't be person of interest, lawyer says | Daily Mail Online
 
It is very true that Clark High School is in San Antonio and NOT the school anyone living in Boerne would be attending.
 
To the comments about how sustainable she could live on her own... She was living in a very upscale gated resort style apartment complex in leon springs before she moved into his place.

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I don't believe you are correct. A judge has to act in the best interest of the child and the father of one child has made public comments that indicate he and at least one other person did have concerns:
'The home she was living in, we just feel it wasn't a great place for our children to have been loved.'


These two children could articulate what they observed to their fathers and also to a judge. It isn't impossible to remove a child from a custodial parent when children are unhappy living in a household of a man to which the children have no biological relationship.
JMO

Boyfriend of Texas mom found shot dead with daughters shouldn't be person of interest, lawyer says | Daily Mail Online
Possibly the two fathers are the "we" in the statement. Their girls may have shared concerns about what was happening in the home and were uncomfortable. The two men may have talked about the situation. I didn't take the "we" to be NO and the father because she was living there and if she felt and believed this, she would have moved with her girls.
 
Wow. Thank you for sharing and I’m so sorry you suffer with that (I assume it’s something that you still have to deal with daily to make sure you stay healthy?) Lastly, I’m glad you weren’t successful in your attempt and you are blessed to have sweet, loving children.

That is very personal to you and thank you for sharing.. I believe personal experience/perspective is critical to understanding (not right word as I know we can't but for want of better) thankfully you were able to come through that xx

I am on fence with regards to what happened here and await more facts... Xx
Thank you so much for your kind words and for letting me share.

Yes, it is something I have to deal with on a daily basis, whether it’s by taking medications, going to therapy, seeing my psychiatrist, avoiding certain smells, sounds, people, etc. It’s just like many other illnesses. And yes, I am very fortunate to have children who accept me for who I am. I am also very thankful for their friends who were there for them, ready to listen without judging. Kudos to their parents also.

I just wanted to share my experience as I believe it is possible that something similar happened to Nichol. But it’s only one of many possibilities.

Speaking of possibilities, I found an article with a list of “Motivations for Child Murder by Parents.”
It’s an interesting read, IMO:

“‘Altruistic’ Filicides

Altruistic filicides are committed ‘out of love,’ rather than anger or hate. Two subgroups are evident.

Filicide associated with suicide
These parents make a decision to take their own life first. Mothers may then feel that they cannot abandon their children and leave them ‘motherless’ in what they perceive as a cruel world.

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About a third of mothers who kill their children take their own lives. Fathers are almost twice as likely to complete suicide after filicide (Friedman et al., 2005). This difference may not be because mothers attempt suicide less often, but because men are much more likely to complete their suicide due to using more lethal methods.

[SBM]

Filicide to relieve or prevent suffering
These parents kill to relieve the child victim's suffering, which may be real or imagined.

[SBM]

Andrea Yates's motive for her filicides was to ensure that her children would not go to hell. Thus, her filicides would fit this category by preventing an eternity of suffering.

[SBM]

‘Acutely psychotic’ filicide

This designation applies to psychotic parents who kill with no comprehensible motive. It includes patients who kill under the influence of command hallucinations, epilepsy, or delirium.

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‘Unwanted child’ filicide
These murders are committed because the child is no longer wanted. This is the most common motive for killing newborns. A dull 25-year-old widow was offered marriage only if she parted with her two children. After being refused placement by social agencies, she decided to dispose of them by use of a hatchet and gasoline for burning.

‘Child maltreatment’ filicide
[SBM]

The violent outbursts often occur in the overzealous application of discipline.

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This is the only one of the five filicide categories, in which the death is not intended by the parent.

‘Spouse revenge’ filicide
[SBM]

The most common precipitants for spouse revenge filicide are spousal infidelity and child custody disputes.

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Mr. Ronald Shanaberger's fiancee had made arrangements to go on a Caribbean cruise with her girlfriends before their engagement. When Mr. Shanaberger's father died, his fiancee declined to return early from the cruise to be with him in his time of grief. He resolved in his rage to make her suffer the way he had suffered. He waited until they married and their son, Tyler, was 7 months old. After his wife was fully bonded with Tyler, he killed their child (Associated Press, 1999). He was sentenced to 49 years in prison.“
Filicide in the United States
 
I don't believe you are correct. A judge has to act in the best interest of the child and the father of one child has made public comments that indicate he and at least one other person did have concerns:
'The home she was living in, we just feel it wasn't a great place for our children to have been loved.'


These two children could articulate what they observed to their fathers and also to a judge. It isn't impossible to remove a child from a custodial parent when children are unhappy living in a household of a man to which the children have no biological relationship.
JMO

Boyfriend of Texas mom found shot dead with daughters shouldn't be person of interest, lawyer says | Daily Mail Online
Impossible? Of course anything is *possible*, I suppose. Is there any evidence these girls voiced they didn’t want to live with or spend time with their mother and/or her boyfriend? That they took this before a judge? I’m not saying such evidence doesn’t exist, but I haven’t seen even a hint of anything of the sort. ‍♀️
 
None of what is being posted can be verified is all just opinions which are becoming heated... Remember TOS as we don't want to be shut down.. I like reading everyone's opinion and perspective just well aware of how rumours and speculation get treated here xx
 
I have a completely different understanding of his home.
In a discussion up thread, one of the fathers has said his daughter's belongings in the home were packed up and delivered to him. I think the daughters did "live" with their mother who clearly had some type of custodial/parenting time with them.

Where the daughters went to school is irrelevant. Many school districts have open enrollment and work with parents to maintain continuity for the student.

JMO
 
In a discussion up thread, one of the fathers has said his daughter's belongings in the home were packed up and delivered to him. I think the daughters did "live" with their mother who clearly had some type of custodial/parenting time with them.

Where the daughters went to school is irrelevant. Many school districts have open enrollment and work with parents to maintain continuity for the student.

JMO

Hey Belle, yea, I agree. That’s not really what my post was in response to, tho.
 
Suggest you screen shot this stuff before it's taken down and compare it to the news next week and the trial coming up.

Even if your information it true, 1) this isn’t the appropriate forum unless you become a verified insider and 2) even if CW is guilty and arrested, any trial wouldn’t be “coming up” anytime in the near future. It would be a year minimum (probably yearS) for this case to be tried. It would also probably be a death penalty case which would mean even more delays before trial.

All that said, IMO, no arrest will be made bc the killer is also deceased. Very sad situation.
 
Possibly the two fathers are the "we" in the statement. Their girls may have shared concerns about what was happening in the home and were uncomfortable. The two men may have talked about the situation. I didn't take the "we" to be NO and the father because she was living there and if she felt and believed this, she would have moved with her girls.
I agree. I take whatever either father says with a grain of salt because they are "ex" husbands. Sour grapes often come with that territory.

JMO
 
Oh, there's a trial coming? But wait...there hasn't been an arrest. lol

It’s always so sad when a person wishes to end their life & feel a need to take innocent persons with them, which is what I THINK this is going to come to.
Imo, CW won’t be arrested. He’s been under the spotlight since reporting the murder/suicide.
His alibi has been checked multiple times, by now.
All MOO, JMO
 
I can definitely see this end result wasn't expected. I have totally flipped sides overnight. I honestly do have an open mind. I just find it hard to believe he was as bad as he is being made out to be, considering the friends putting that out recently liked pictures of him on SM, etc. If he was so bad and they couldn't get her to leave, then they should have informed the fathers of the children.
Maybe someone did inform them and they were trying to figure out what to do. The may not have had resources to get lawyers to get the ball rolling or they were in the process. All of this is speculation but I have thought this since I saw one father's "we" comment.
 
I think there are a significant number of people locally who believe an arrest is coming. A matter of time sort of thing. Just a wild hunch on my part.
Imo, there is a very small group of people who would like everyone to believe an arrest might be coming because donations to the internet fundraiser have significantly slowed.
 
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