TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

  • #361
Here you go:

Post from way back then with the sheriff's actual words vice a reporters:

TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #2

The original article:
BCSO 'not ready to say' mom killed 2 kids then self at Anaqua Springs Ranch home (ksat.com)

And, the pertinent bit of text of his words about what his issue with the ME findings/closing the case are that many seem to willingly overlook:


and again at the end he reiterates once again the issuing with closing the investigation:
Thank you...
My point was I am working with the information being released this month on msm.
 
  • #362
I may have missed it, but has LE said where each body was located?
 
  • #363
As a divorced no kids I have dated many men with kids, some with different mothers, and don't think anything of it. It's 2021 not 1950 and people are much less traditional and much more open with their relationships and their family lives these days. Most these men had hopes to enter new relationships and join households. I don't find anything odd about it at all and find the tone here archaic and judgmental.

amen! I agree with the tone here but was too tired last night to bring it up. I’m childless and married to a man with kids. I didn’t meet his ex wife for a while, and I don’t think it’s weird that CW never met the girls fathers. Like you said, it’s 2020, dating a single parent isn’t unusual, especially in your 30s.
 
  • #364
Fathers & CW?

Does anyone have MSM link w quote stating Fathers & CW did meet/know each other? Or did not? TiA.

(Not looking for a response saying - in earlier threads, someone posted they did/did not meet or know each other. Looking for actual wording from the identified source.)


Alexa and London’s dads, Carlos and Hector, say even though their daughters were living in Wheeler’s home, he never made an attempt to be involved with Carlos or Hector. Carlos says he was stand-offish, would avoid exchanges and his distance seemed odd.

"We met him once and outside of that, my family never talked to him. He never talked to us. He never reached out to us,” said Montez.

"Just as a man, he never went up and introduced himself like you know, they're living in my house, just as a common courtesy,” said Bribiesca.

Anaqua Springs Murder Mystery

fwiw, custody exchanges can be awkward. I don’t blame anyone for avoiding a custody exchange. There’s really no reason for a significant other to be present. Why would he reach out to his girlfriends exes or try to be involved with them? I hard disagree with the girls dads sentiments in the above comments.
 
  • #365
sentiments that can be very well motivated by material motives.. and that's as gross as it can get
 
  • #366
Alexa and London’s dads, Carlos and Hector, say even though their daughters were living in Wheeler’s home, he never made an attempt to be involved with Carlos or Hector. Carlos says he was stand-offish, would avoid exchanges and his distance seemed

"We met him once and outside of that, my family never talked to him. He never talked to us. He never reached out to us,” said Montez.

"Just as a man, he never went up and introduced himself like you know, they're living in my house, just as a common courtesy,” said Bribiesca.

Anaqua Springs Murder Mystery

fwiw, custody exchanges can be awkward. I don’t blame anyone for avoiding a custody exchange. There’s really no reason for a significant other to be present. Why would he reach out to his girlfriends exes or try to be involved with them? I hard disagree with the girls dads sentiments in the above comments.


Agreed! I would not want a boyfriend or girlfriend present during custody exchanges. IMO... The responsibility of bridging the gap between father and boyfriend ultimately laid with NO. I get the feeling that if she wanted them to be in contact with each other, they wouldve been.

and if she tried to get Charlie to meet the fathers, and he refused her simple request... she had no business moving those kids into his home. MOO
 
  • #367
Agreed! I would not want a boyfriend or girlfriend present during custody exchanges. IMO... The responsibility of bridging the gap between father and boyfriend ultimately laid with NO. I get the feeling that if she wanted them to be in contact with each other, they wouldve been.

and if she tried to get Charlie to meet the fathers, and he refused her simple request... she had no business moving those kids into his home. MOO
ITA. The fathers say that CW never reached out to them. Why would he? Did either father really care at the time? Did they try to reach out to him? I doubt it. MOO
 
  • #368
ITA. The fathers say that CW never reached out to them. Why would he? Did either father really care at the time? Did they try to reach out to him? I doubt it. MOO

exactly. It’s not CWs responsibility to reach out to the fathers. If they were so concerned about the living situation, that’s something to take up with NO. Imo CW had no obligation to approach the fathers “as a man” just because the girls were living in his house. If anything, I’d say the dads would be the ones to approach CW “as a man”. But really, I don’t think anyone should be expected to approach anyone in that situation.
 
  • #369
Dating vs Living Together w Dau's?
As a divorced no kids I have dated many men with kids, some with different mothers, and don't think anything of it. It's 2021 not 1950 and people are much less traditional and much more open with their relationships and their family lives these days. Most these men had hopes to enter new relationships and join households. I don't find anything odd about it at all and find the tone here archaic and judgmental.
@Dallas Volunteer bbm True, you may not think anything for dating man w children, and some here (including me) agree. I doubt many here believe being divorced w custody of children should translate into denial of all pleasure or vows of chastity.

But dating is not synonymous w living together, and a far cry from living w boyfriend, esp'ly when bringing tween & teen dau's along.

Some ppl would be concerned about their children (either sex, any age) living in home possibly w a predator. Altho living in predator's home is not a prerequisite for grooming & sexually abusing a child, this can and does happen more easily (imo) than, say, by a scout leader, youth minister, or neighbor living down the block. Speaking generally, not saying any of this is relevant to CW specifically. Also conceding that a few casual meetings or regular contact w the boyfriend may not put a perv on a Father's radar screen.

I do not know much about either NO or CW, but a woman dating boyfriend is not equivalent to woman living w boyfriend w her two dau's, imo. my2ct.
 
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  • #370
Dating vs Living Together w Dau's?
@Dallas Volunteer bbm True, you may not think anything for dating man w children, and some here (including me) agree. I doubt many here believe being divorced w custody of children should translate into denial of all pleasure or vows of chastity.

But dating is not synonymous w living together, and a far cry from living w boyfriend, esp'ly when bringing tween & teen dau's along.

Some ppl would be concerned about their children (either sex, any age) living in home possibly w a predator. Altho living in predator's home is not a prerequisite for grooming & sexually abusing a child, this can and does happen more easily (imo) than, say, by a scout leader, youth minister, or neighbor living down the block. Speaking generally, not saying any of this is relevant to CW specifically. Also conceding that a few casual meetings or regular contact w the boyfriend may not put a perv on a Father's radar screen.

I do not know much about either NO or CW, but a woman dating boyfriend is not equivalent to woman living w boyfriend w her two dau's, imo. my2ct.

this is really reaching. Moving yourself and your children into your significant others home isn’t abnormal. It’s 2020. People live together before marriage lol.
 
  • #371
this is really reaching. Moving yourself and your children into your significant others home isn’t abnormal. It’s 2020. People live together before marriage lol.

something being “normal” in today’s society does not make it any more safe. We all know it’s not adnormal.. there’s daily headlines of mom or dads significant other doing horrible things to the children in their home. If the theory that CW did this is true.... then this case proves how irresponsible that decision was. Common. But selfish nonetheless.
 
  • #372
something being “normal” in today’s society does not make it any more safe. We all know it’s not adnormal.. there’s daily headlines of mom or dads significant other doing horrible things to the children in their home. If the theory that CW did this is true.... then this case proves how irresponsible that decision was. Common. But selfish nonetheless.

so when does it become acceptable for a couple to cohabitate? How long would they have had to been together prior to moving in, in order for it to not have been an irresponsible decision? Or should single parents never move in with a significant other until their children are adults?
 
  • #373
exactly. It’s not CWs responsibility to reach out to the fathers. If they were so concerned about the living situation, that’s something to take up with NO. Imo CW had no obligation to approach the fathers “as a man” just because the girls were living in his house. If anything, I’d say the dads would be the ones to approach CW “as a man”. But really, I don’t think anyone should be expected to approach anyone in that situation.
I agree. Many comments in that article bother me and the lawsuits really bother me.

So, CW the BF for 12-18 months, is to blame because he should have known what NO was going to do or could do? What about the fathers that have been around for 22 yrs (son’s age at the time), 16 yrs and 10 yrs and those extended families? Kids talk. Kids tell things to their fathers, aunts, uncles etc. They all knew NO for years vs CW knowing her for 12-18 months. Her friends also knew of the volatile relationship ( Corpus Christi trip incident) and probably had many more stories. I hope CW fights these lawsuits and doesn’t settle. I don’t think anyone is to blame for what happened. MOO

Bears10 I hope you know my little rant was not directed at you. :) I was just writing a quick reply to you and started thinking about the whole situation.
 
  • #374
I may have missed it, but has LE said where each body was located?
IIRC they were all found in the upstairs bathroom. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
  • #375
so when does it become acceptable for a couple to cohabitate? How long would they have had to been together prior to moving in, in order for it to not have been an irresponsible decision? Or should single parents never move in with a significant other until their children are adults?

The character of your partners is what should decide that.. not how long you foolishly stay in a toxic relationship. Nobody is saying this was a Jekyll & Hyde type situation. If her closest friends are to be believed, this relationship was pretty consistently toxic all the way through. That’s literally the basis for the accusations against CW. So in this particular situation, IMHO... never.

I don’t speak in hypotheticals. I’ve never brought a man around my child. For this exact reason.
 
  • #376
Alexa and London’s dads, Carlos and Hector, say even though their daughters were living in Wheeler’s home, he never made an attempt to be involved with Carlos or Hector. Carlos says he was stand-offish, would avoid exchanges and his distance seemed odd.

"We met him once and outside of that, my family never talked to him. He never talked to us. He never reached out to us,” said Montez.

"Just as a man, he never went up and introduced himself like you know, they're living in my house, just as a common courtesy,” said Bribiesca.

Anaqua Springs Murder Mystery

fwiw, custody exchanges can be awkward. I don’t blame anyone for avoiding a custody exchange. There’s really no reason for a significant other to be present. Why would he reach out to his girlfriends exes or try to be involved with them? I hard disagree with the girls dads sentiments in the above comments.

also from the link .....

During our interview, Sheriff Salazar revealed that a new piece of investigative equipment has been purchased, specifically for this investigation.

"That idea was brought to me by one of the investigators in the case. They said this piece of equipment will really help us and we bought it," said Sheriff Salazar.

The forensic device is called a Berla. It allows investigators to access a vehicle's infotainment system.

"It's your stereo, it's your GPS, all of your tracking information. It's the brain so to speak in your car," said Sheriff Salazar. "It tells us so much information about what's going on in the car at that time."
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That article is from a year ago. I wonder what info the Berla was able to provide. The link also said 10 warrants had been executed at that point (cell phone records).
 
  • #377
IIRC they were all found in the upstairs bathroom. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

Inside the residence, deputies found the bodies of Wheeler’s girlfriend, Nichol Leila Olsen, 37, and her daughters, Alexa Denice Montez, 16, and 10-year-old London Sophia Bribiescas.


All were in a second-floor hallway.


Snip


The deputy found one of the children face down on the floor “with what appeared to be a gunshot wound to the head and a large pool of blood on the floor,” the report notes.


Snip


The other child, whose identity also is redacted from the report, was lying near Olsen in the hallway in front of a doorway.


Snip


“There was a large amount of smeared blood on the floor and some on the walls” in the hallway where the bodies were found, the deputy’s report notes. “In a bathroom near the hallway, there was a small pool of blood at the doorway.



Report describes scene at San Antonio area home where mom, daughters were shot
 
  • #378
Inside the residence, deputies found the bodies of Wheeler’s girlfriend, Nichol Leila Olsen, 37, and her daughters, Alexa Denice Montez, 16, and 10-year-old London Sophia Bribiescas.


All were in a second-floor hallway.


Snip


The deputy found one of the children face down on the floor “with what appeared to be a gunshot wound to the head and a large pool of blood on the floor,” the report notes.


Snip


The other child, whose identity also is redacted from the report, was lying near Olsen in the hallway in front of a doorway.


Snip


“There was a large amount of smeared blood on the floor and some on the walls” in the hallway where the bodies were found, the deputy’s report notes. “In a bathroom near the hallway, there was a small pool of blood at the doorway.



Report describes scene at San Antonio area home where mom, daughters were shot
Thank you! Good information. I’m not sure how I missed this before. Unless I purposely blocked it out. It sounds horrific, like one of the daughters was trying to get away. :(MOO
 
  • #379
Thank you! Good information. I’m not sure how I missed this before. Unless I purposely blocked it out. It sounds horrific, like one of the daughters was trying to get away. :(MOO

The report does mention a small pool of blood by the bathroom, so maybe that’s why you had bathroom in your head? It really does sound horrific.
 
  • #380
What was the Corpus Christi trip incident?
 

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