TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

[CocoChanel]

Inside the residence, deputies found the bodies of Wheeler’s girlfriend, Nichol Leila Olsen, 37, and her daughters, Alexa Denice Montez, 16, and 10-year-old London Sophia Bribiescas.


All were in a second-floor hallway.


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The deputy found one of the children face down on the floor “with what appeared to be a gunshot wound to the head and a large pool of blood on the floor,” the report notes.


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The other child, whose identity also is redacted from the report, was lying near Olsen in the hallway in front of a doorway.


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“There was a large amount of smeared blood on the floor and some on the walls” in the hallway where the bodies were found, the deputy’s report notes. “In a bathroom near the hallway, there was a small pool of blood at the doorway.



Report describes scene at San Antonio area home where mom, daughters were shot

I cannot imagine the horror of walking into that carnage.
CW will never “unsee” this.

 

[BaffleMe]

Where were the phones found and what about the fingerprints on the phones ? Do we know anything about that ?
My guess they were all murdered brutally .
m/s doesn’t make any sense on this case esp as per the latest phone calls imo.

I haven't heard anything about their phones. And honestly, I don't think I had heard about the paternity case. That would be an interesting element to the case. Another thing I had not heard was about NO taking pills. Does anyone have more info on these things?

"Bribiescas found it strange that he never met Wheeler in the 18 months that his daughter lived there with Olsen.

“I even mentioned this to Nichol at one point. I’m like, as a man, he should come introduce himself just because our daughter (is) living in his house … just out of common courtesy,” he said."

Father losing patience with sheriff's office about his daughter's killing as Anaqua Springs investigation remains open

so when does it become acceptable for a couple to cohabitate? How long would they have had to been together prior to moving in, in order for it to not have been an irresponsible decision? Or should single parents never move in with a significant other until their children are adults?

This isn't the same as with children AND without the father's even meeting the guy, IMHO

 

[happyday]

I cannot imagine the horror of walking into that carnage.
CW will never “unsee” this.

I was thinking about that earlier. How absolutely traumatizing that would have been for him to come back to that.

 

[BaffleMe]

Where were the phones found and what about the fingerprints on the phones ? Do we know anything about that ?
My guess they were all murdered brutally .
m/s doesn’t make any sense on this case esp as per the latest phone calls imo.

I haven't heard anything about their phones. And honestly, I don't think I had heard about the paternity case. That would be an interesting element to the case. Another thing I had not heard was about NO taking pills. Does anyone have more info on these things?

"Bribiescas found it strange that he never met Wheeler in the 18 months that his daughter lived there with Olsen.

“I even mentioned this to Nichol at one point. I’m like, as a man, he should come introduce himself just because our daughter (is) living in his house … just out of common courtesy,” he said."

Father losing patience with sheriff's office about his daughter's killing as Anaqua Springs investigation remains open

so when does it become acceptable for a couple to cohabitate? How long would they have had to been together prior to moving in, in order for it to not have been an irresponsible decision? Or should single parents never move in with a significant other until their children are adults?

This isn't the same as with children AND without the father's even meeting the guy, IMHO

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[BaffleMe]

Interesting
Charlie Wheeler, under scrutiny after the Anaqua Springs deaths, arrested for DWI in Austin

 

[al66pine]

An earlier post discussed dating, where a 'dator' had custody of kids, or 'datee' had custody of kids. To me the post seemed to equate that dating situation to situation w NO & her two dau’s living w CW, but I could have misunderstood.
Perhaps my post 369 could have phrased my conclusion differently than I did: "... a woman dating boyfriend is not equivalent to woman living w boyfriend w her two dau's, imo." But not sure how to further clarify.

BTW, my post did not say ^ dating or ^co-habitation is abnormal or unusual. just my2ct.

 

[Satchie]

"The Bexar County Medical Examiner has ruled that the 2019 case was a double murder-suicide with Nichol killing her daughters and herself. Despite the medical examiner’s finding, Salazar determined there were too many unanswered questions

RSBM

Is this reporting accurate, that the medical examiner made the declaration that the two girls were murdered by their mother? If so, no wonder the Sheriff refused to accept that, the medical examiner is only qualified to rule on what caused the death, in a homicide case the medical examiner is not qualified to determine who committed the homicide.

IMO, there was perhaps too much bias in the case from the start, jumping to conclusions without any investigation at all, and then a defensiveness to not admit there was bias. And then it seems, there was pressure to close the criminal case asap, in part in order to allow the civil lawsuits to proceed. IMO, no one seems to care very much what actually happened to those two children, they just want to bury them and move on as quickly as possible.

 

[Backstroke10]

I cannot imagine the horror of walking into that carnage.
CW will never “unsee” this.

I agree. It must have been horrible.

Interesting
Charlie Wheeler, under scrutiny after the Anaqua Springs deaths, arrested for DWI in Austin

I’m not surprised by this. What he saw that morning, being blamed and sued by people and the scrutiny he lives with, would drive most people to drink and spiral out of control. MOO
I’m not at all saying drinking/driving is okay or letting him off the hook for that but I can see where someone would just lose it, after something like this. Even if the sheriff clears him, many people will still point fingers and blame him. MOO

 

[MURDERER_SERVANT]

this says friend’s house
Mansion where mom and her two daughters were found shot dead hits the market for $975,000 | Daily Mail Online
This says elsewhere
Calls made to 911 the night of the Anaqua Springs shooting deaths

Report reveals grisly details of mother and daughters' death | Daily Mail Online

I will link the relatives house and parents house when I find them

 

[al66pine]

ME Stmt or Reporter Conclusion?

... Is this reporting accurate, that the medical examiner made the declaration that the two girls were murdered by their mother? If so, no wonder the Sheriff refused to accept that, the medical examiner is only qualified to rule on what caused the death, in a homicide case the medical examiner is not qualified to determine who committed the homicide....

@Satchie sbm bbm
Yes, agreeing. I doubt ME told LE that NO killed daughters, at least not in autopsy or other written reports, but I understand how a reporter or others might draw that conclusion.

AFAIK, ME would have issued 3 separate reports, w CoD & MoD for NO, Alexa & London, and for each an estimated ToD. I'd think the est. ToD for each would be the same. Per MSM, reports say MoD for NO = suicide; both dau's = homicide.

After reading reports as a group?
On common sense basis, many readers would see the s/m/m MoDs and conclude NO killed dau's.
Because, well, same place, same time, same CoD = GSW, and what are the chances someone else would be there to shoot dau's?
Of course, it's possible someone else was there and shot them, and LE has to consider possibilities and investigate. But I doubt ME said NO killed them. my2cts.

 

[Orgona]

this says friend’s house
Mansion where mom and her two daughters were found shot dead hits the market for $975,000 | Daily Mail Online
This says elsewhere
Calls made to 911 the night of the Anaqua Springs shooting deaths

Report reveals grisly details of mother and daughters' death | Daily Mail Online

I will link the relatives house and parents house when I find them

I don’t see why “elsewhere” in one of the articles would exclude a friend’s house, it only means he slept somewhere else. We didn’t see or heard CW personally saying anything about it. In this articles, anyway.

In one of your linked article the lawyer says he won’t publicly say where CW was, so we didn’t her anything from the horse’s mouth yet.

Unfortunately by now we all know how fluid the “facts” in the DM articles are. They always have the best pictures, though.

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IMO

ETA: I meant to remove FOX before I hit post. Removed it now.

 

[bears10]

This is really important ..

LE had apparently questions about wherabouts of CW thus the need to buy this device . I had read that in the morning when LE arrived at the scene , CW told them he was at a relative’s house in another city.. Then it switched to be his parents’ home an hour away . And again it changed to be a friend’ s house.

That’s why they bought it, but I’m curious what the results were. It’s been a year.

 

[sandy_80]

I am gonna try and say.
.that a premeditated murder/suicide in the hallway is kinda of strange ..while there is no method for something so horrific and crazy...I still think it means its been triggered or the girls were in motion of escape...

 

[bears10]

Bringing forward the info about paternity since someone upthread hadn’t seen it before

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Both of the girls’ fathers have been very outspoken about the case, but new details show that there was a question about one of the girl’s paternity.

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Today, sources close to the investigation told Fox San Antonio that in the hours leading up to Olsen’s and the daughters’ deaths, the paternity of one of her daughters came into question in communications recovered by investigators.

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On that same date, Hector Bribiesca’s attorney said "London’s family doesn’t care about the results, we just want to know what it is. Nobody is saying that London did anything wrong, so we don’t have a dog in that hunt, they just want to know what happened because they need to move on with their lives."

Since the death of Olsen, Alexa and London, at least one life insurance policy has been paid out, according to the oldest girl’s father.

Anaqua Springs tragedy not a closed case

 

[FrostOwl]

Alexa and London’s dads, Carlos and Hector, say even though their daughters were living in Wheeler’s home, he never made an attempt to be involved with Carlos or Hector. Carlos says he was stand-offish, would avoid exchanges and his distance seemed odd.

"We met him once and outside of that, my family never talked to him. He never talked to us. He never reached out to us,” said Montez.

"Just as a man, he never went up and introduced himself like you know, they're living in my house, just as a common courtesy,” said Bribiesca.

Anaqua Springs Murder Mystery

fwiw, custody exchanges can be awkward. I don’t blame anyone for avoiding a custody exchange. There’s really no reason for a significant other to be present. Why would he reach out to his girlfriends exes or try to be involved with them? I hard disagree with the girls dads sentiments in the above comments.

Perhaps it was NO who didn't want CW near/to talk with her exes, and that he respected that wish. Had there been any other boyfriends/partners of NO after London's father and before CW? If there had been any, how had the relation between them and the fathers' been? Perhaps there were a reason to keep them separated.

 

[BaffleMe]

Bringing forward the info about paternity since someone upthread hadn’t seen it before

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Both of the girls’ fathers have been very outspoken about the case, but new details show that there was a question about one of the girl’s paternity.

Snip

Today, sources close to the investigation told Fox San Antonio that in the hours leading up to Olsen’s and the daughters’ deaths, the paternity of one of her daughters came into question in communications recovered by investigators.

Snip

On that same date, Hector Bribiesca’s attorney said "London’s family doesn’t care about the results, we just want to know what it is. Nobody is saying that London did anything wrong, so we don’t have a dog in that hunt, they just want to know what happened because they need to move on with their lives."

Since the death of Olsen, Alexa and London, at least one life insurance policy has been paid out, according to the oldest girl’s father.

Anaqua Springs tragedy not a closed case

Is there a link about the life insurance policy?

 

[NervousNellie]

Is there a link about the life insurance policy?

It's the last sentence in the article linked in the post you quoted. Or am I misunderstanding your question?

Anaqua Springs tragedy not a closed case

From the article: "Since the death of Olsen, Alexa and London, at least one life insurance policy has been paid out, according to the oldest girl’s father. As of today, the Sheriff’s Office says they still have persons of interest but no suspects in this case."

 

[Backstroke10]

That’s why they bought it, but I’m curious what the results were. It’s been a year.

I’m curious too. You would think after this much time that they could clear him. If the phone and vehicle both show he was nowhere near the home, I wonder what the delay would be in clearing his name. MOO
I don’t believe CW or the fathers had anything to do with this. So who does that leave? I have no clue other than this being what I think it is, murder/suicide. MOO

 

[Backstroke10]

Bringing forward the info about paternity since someone upthread hadn’t seen it before

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Both of the girls’ fathers have been very outspoken about the case, but new details show that there was a question about one of the girl’s paternity.

Snip

Today, sources close to the investigation told Fox San Antonio that in the hours leading up to Olsen’s and the daughters’ deaths, the paternity of one of her daughters came into question in communications recovered by investigators.

Snip

On that same date, Hector Bribiesca’s attorney said "London’s family doesn’t care about the results, we just want to know what it is. Nobody is saying that London did anything wrong, so we don’t have a dog in that hunt, they just want to know what happened because they need to move on with their lives."

Since the death of Olsen, Alexa and London, at least one life insurance policy has been paid out, according to the oldest girl’s father.

Anaqua Springs tragedy not a closed case

BBM I still don’t understand what that statement means and why it was said. “Nobody is saying that London did anything wrong”. They are talking about paternity so of course she didn’t do anything wrong. Such a weird comment. MOO

 

[insearchoflight]

BBM I still don’t understand what that statement means and why it was said. “Nobody is saying that London did anything wrong”. They are talking about paternity so of course she didn’t do anything wrong. Such a weird comment. MOO

Maybe that an argument ensued between London and NO regarding who her father was? Thus causing NO to act out violently?

Pure speculation

so there comment means, we are not blaming London in any way, shape, or form for what happened

all moo