TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

[Backstroke10]

Maybe that an argument ensued between London and NO regarding who her father was? Thus causing NO to act out violently?

Pure speculation

so there comment means, we are not blaming London in any way, shape, or form for what happened

all moo

Good speculation. It would make sense. There were obviously serious issues going on already with NO but that could have been the tipping point. That 23andMe and all those DNA kits are so popular, I’m wondering if the issue of paternity came up because someone in the family uploaded their DNA. Just a thought. MOO

 

[Knox]

Maybe one of the girls was trying to get help but wasn’t able to talk or NO had second thoughts and wanted help for them, but ultimately decided to kill herself anyway as planned.
Sometimes survival instinct kicks in too.

That was my thought too. But why call his Mom, trying to get a hold of him? I wondered did NO have a relationship with her?

 

[Knox]

I am gonna try and say.
.that a premeditated murder/suicide in the hallway is kinda of strange ..while there is no method for something so horrific and crazy...I still think it means its been triggered or the girls were in motion of escape...

Didn't CW send the oldest daughter a text after he left that night? She replied back to him that NO was talking to herself with a scared emoji. That tells us at least this daughter was aware NO was not acting normal? Maybe she went to check on her and like you say, tried to escape back to a bedroom or downstairs after she saw Mom had a gun?

 

[al66pine]

London's Father's Lawsuit?
The lawsuit alleges the child’s mother NO, 37, used a gun that Wheeler kept unsecured in their bedroom to kill London, Alexa, and herself. Father's atty said Mr. B. wants to know what happened to his dau and why.*

Understandably atty does not say lawsuit's goal is $. Presumably per ME's report, London died of gunshot wounds/loss of blood. If lawsuit alleged CW had an active role in London's death (which IIUC, it did not), conceivably lawsuit could uncover some detail unknown to Mr. B. What would it be?

Can anyone think of anything that could surface that would enlighten him about what happened to her and why. Does it seem atty's stmt below concedes there will be no answer? just my2ct

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* "Bringing the lawsuit “was really hard, but in the end, I want to know what really happened to London, but mostly, why,” Hector Bribeiscas said in a statement released through his attorney, Joe Hoelscher. “London deserves to have those questions asked, even if there’s never an answer. This is the only way to make sure that happens.” bbm Sorry, lost link.

 

[FrostOwl]

Is it this article? The father of London Sophia Bribiescas, 10, has sued the boyfriend of her late mother, Nichol Olsen, for the child's death, while accusing Olsen of the shootings.

Have this article been shared:
Investigation into shootings deaths of mother and daughters may be nearing an end

 

[Backstroke10]

London's Father's Lawsuit?
The lawsuit alleges the child’s mother NO, 37, used a gun that Wheeler kept unsecured in their bedroom to kill London, Alexa, and herself. Father's atty said Mr. B. wants to know what happened to his dau and why.*

Understandably atty does not say lawsuit's goal is $. Presumably per ME's report, London died of gunshot wounds/loss of blood. If lawsuit alleged CW had an active role in London's death (which IIUC, it did not), conceivably lawsuit could uncover some detail unknown to Mr. B. What would it be?

Can anyone think of anything that could surface that would enlighten him about what happened to her and why. Does it seem atty's stmt below concedes there will be no answer? just my2ct

_______________________________________
* "Bringing the lawsuit “was really hard, but in the end, I want to know what really happened to London, but mostly, why,” Hector Bribeiscas said in a statement released through his attorney, Joe Hoelscher. “London deserves to have those questions asked, even if there’s never an answer. This is the only way to make sure that happens.” bbm Sorry, lost link.

If Mr. B isn’t the bio dad then who the bio dad is? After 10 yrs, finding something like this out would be devastating. I don’t know if Mr. B has any brothers but if so, what if the bio dad was a brother or someone else in that family. I know this is just wild speculation but trying to think of something that could have triggered the events that night. MOO

 

[bears10]

London's Father's Lawsuit?
The lawsuit alleges the child’s mother NO, 37, used a gun that Wheeler kept unsecured in their bedroom to kill London, Alexa, and herself. Father's atty said Mr. B. wants to know what happened to his dau and why.*

Understandably atty does not say lawsuit's goal is $. Presumably per ME's report, London died of gunshot wounds/loss of blood. If lawsuit alleged CW had an active role in London's death (which IIUC, it did not), conceivably lawsuit could uncover some detail unknown to Mr. B. What would it be?

Can anyone think of anything that could surface that would enlighten him about what happened to her and why. Does it seem atty's stmt below concedes there will be no answer? just my2ct

_______________________________________
* "Bringing the lawsuit “was really hard, but in the end, I want to know what really happened to London, but mostly, why,” Hector Bribeiscas said in a statement released through his attorney, Joe Hoelscher. “London deserves to have those questions asked, even if there’s never an answer. This is the only way to make sure that happens.” bbm Sorry, lost link.

he is seeking over $1mil. Money is certainly a goal.

 

[al66pine]

Is it this article? The father of London Sophia Bribiescas, 10, has sued the boyfriend of her late mother, Nichol Olsen, for the child's death, while accusing Olsen of the shootings.
Have this article been shared:
Investigation into shootings deaths of mother and daughters may be nearing an end

@FrostOwl re my post 474 ??? Re London's Father's lawsuit???

The quote could be from^, but I doubt it, as I do not subscribe to San Antonio Express News.
Likely from a diff source. TYVM for response.

 

[asmi106082]

The ME rules on Cause and Manner of death. So he or she wouldn’t be saying who killed who, but they can and do have the authority to work with investigators and come to a conclusion regarding how the person died.
The ME was able to tell, by examining the scene, gathering info from witnesses, and performing the autopsies, which of the victims were murdered and who committed suicide. It’s then up to the DA to decide if they can prove who did what to whom and why. MOO.

 

[al66pine]

Goal of London's Father's Lawsuit?

he is seeking over $1mil. Money is certainly a goal.

@bears10 Thx for your response. Not disagreeing w ^ post. Mine did not say $ was not a goal.

My post stated: "Understandably atty does not say lawsuit's goal is $."
Atty did talk about other ostensible goals in filing.

 

[bears10]

Goal of London's Father's Lawsuit?

@bears10 Thx for your response. Not disagreeing w ^ post. Mine did not say $ was not a goal.

My post stated: "Understandably atty does not say lawsuit's goal is $."
Atty did talk about other ostensible goals in filing.

I know, I was just replying to the quote from the attorney. He can say it isn’t about money all he wants, but the lawsuit petition states otherwise.

 

[al66pine]

I know, I was just replying to the quote from the attorney. He can say it isn’t about money all he wants, but the lawsuit petition states otherwise.

@bears10 After your post, I reread mine, to see if I bungled it up, like w an extra 'not' or something. I've made boo-boos like that.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[MimosaMornings]

That was my thought too. But why call his Mom, trying to get a hold of him? I wondered did NO have a relationship with her?

A single mother, her millionaire boyfriend and how their storybook romance ended in horror

She and her daughters occasionally saw Wheeler’s family, and went to his parents’ home for holidays and Bible study. “We let her in our hearts and our home,” Wheeler’s mother said.

 

[happyday]

A single mother, her millionaire boyfriend and how their storybook romance ended in horror

She and her daughters occasionally saw Wheeler’s family, and went to his parents’ home for holidays and Bible study. “We let her in our hearts and our home,” Wheeler’s mother said.

Somehow I hadn’t read this article until now. It just makes me sad. I live in this area—the town where the article said he’s known as a habitual speeder in his Maserati—and his family is well known. They have a big ranch store here called Wheeler’s, and technically his house where this happened is in my town.
Anyway, I didn’t know a lot of these details and now I can see why her friends are so vocal. I still think he probably didn’t do it, but this article gives some insight into maybe why she was in such a bad place mentally. Ugh. So depressing. Glad the sheriff is reviewing the investigation just in case there’s something more to this.

 

[Orgona]

Somehow I hadn’t read this article until now. It just makes me sad. I live in this area—the town where the article said he’s known as a habitual speeder in his Maserati—and his family is well known. They have a big ranch store here called Wheeler’s, and technically his house where this happened is in my town.
Anyway, I didn’t know a lot of these details and now I can see why her friends are so vocal. I still think he probably didn’t do it, but this article gives some insight into maybe why she was in such a bad place mentally. Ugh. So depressing. Glad the sheriff is reviewing the investigation just in case there’s something more to this.

According to the article their relationship was very volatile. Maybe they both were temperamental people who knew how to push each other buttons. The picture painted is not pretty and makes it look like (emotional) abuse. Sometimes even two otherwise good people can bring the worst out of each other, add to that if one or both have a tendency to abuse and they can explode on each other even worse.

If as CW said they again had a fight and NO felt like she did everything needed but it wasn’t enough for him, and on top of that paternity of London was questioned, I can see her completely losing it.

I too am very happy the case is under review just to make sure they didn’t missed anything and are sure of the conclusion of it.

Somehow I don’t have the feeling CW to be culpable, at least not physically. But I’m happy LE seems to want to be through.

IMO

 

[MimosaMornings]

If Mr. B isn’t the bio dad then who the bio dad is? After 10 yrs, finding something like this out would be devastating. I don’t know if Mr. B has any brothers but if so, what if the bio dad was a brother or someone else in that family. I know this is just wild speculation but trying to think of something that could have triggered the events that night. MOO

Wasn’t London’s audition for America’s Got Talent supposed to be that morning? What if NO had discussed it with HB that evening and they decided against it? Told London and she was upset, angry, etc over that decision? And then the paternity issue came up as a result?
Something was the trigger in this tragedy.
JMO

 

[Backstroke10]

Wasn’t London’s audition for America’s Got Talent supposed to be that morning? What if NO had discussed it with HB that evening and they decided against it? Told London and she was upset, angry, etc over that decision? And then the paternity issue came up as a result?
Something was the trigger in this tragedy.
JMO

Yes, I believe it was and I think your right about these things being the trigger.

The article you posted yesterday was an excellent article with a lot of details that I hadn’t seen before. It made me very sad. The friend describing the Galveston incident and NO going right back to CW, broke my heart. A classic cycle of an abusive relationship that appears to have gone on for awhile. So what happened that night that pushed her over the top? London was shot twice and the paternity issue with London’s dad was that night so it appears to me that this was the trigger. MOO
Like others have said, I still don’t believe CW was involved but I’m glad they are going over the evidence again. MOO

 

[BaffleMe]

Yes, I believe it was and I think your right about these things being the trigger.

The article you posted yesterday was an excellent article with a lot of details that I hadn’t seen before. It made me very sad. The friend describing the Galveston incident and NO going right back to CW, broke my heart. A classic cycle of an abusive relationship that appears to have gone on for awhile. So what happened that night that pushed her over the top? London was shot twice and the paternity issue with London’s dad was that night so it appears to me that this was the trigger. MOO
Like others have said, I still don’t believe CW was involved but I’m glad they are going over the evidence again. MOO

Can someone tell me please where, above, this article is? Thank you.

 

[FrostOwl]

Can someone tell me please where, above, this article is? Thank you.

See @MimosaMornings post in #413 above.

 

[Sagekitty]

I remember reading one article that had an interview with a friend who had spoken to Nichol that evening and she said during their last conversation Nichol canceled plans for London’s audition. I also read somewhere that Nichol and London had spoken on the phone with London’s dad that evening as well. I’m curious if the call with dad was first and paternity issue was discussed which then led to the cancellation of the audition. My guess is that the canceled audition would have been heartbreaking for London on top of any paternity questions.