TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

[BaffleMe]

I remember reading one article that had an interview with a friend who had spoken to Nichol that evening and she said during their last conversation Nichol canceled plans for London’s audition. I also read somewhere that Nichol and London had spoken on the phone with London’s dad that evening as well. I’m curious if the call with dad was first and paternity issue was discussed which then led to the cancellation of the audition. My guess is that the canceled audition would have been heartbreaking for London on top of any paternity questions.

Can we get a link for this please? Thanks.

 

[BaffleMe]

I remember reading one article that had an interview with a friend who had spoken to Nichol that evening and she said during their last conversation Nichol canceled plans for London’s audition. I also read somewhere that Nichol and London had spoken on the phone with London’s dad that evening as well. I’m curious if the call with dad was first and paternity issue was discussed which then led to the cancellation of the audition. My guess is that the canceled audition would have been heartbreaking for London on top of any paternity questions.

Can we get a link for this please? Thanks.

See @MimosaMornings post in #413 above.

Thank you for that. What a well written and powerful article, full of lots of info. (still no answers, but maybe soon .....)

 

[Txgirl08]

In reading some of the linked articles... There seems to be contradictory statements being made by the friends in one of the posted articles, versus what London’s dad said in another article posted up thread.


Per the Express News Article: “The 37 year old doted on her daughters, leaving work by 2:30 everyday to pick them up from school”.


But according to the interview Hector gave, his family had possession of London every weekend, from Thursday afternoon, until Monday. He also states London was increasingly frustrated with the amount of time her mom spent with her. Strangely enough, in that same article, he says Nichol had become more interested in London’s life the past few years. I’m curious about the circumstances surrounding him choosing those words.

 

[Dallas Volunteer]

In reading some of the linked articles... There seems to be contradictory statements being made by the friends in one of the posted articles, versus what London’s dad said in another article posted up thread.
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I think Charlie's mother stated the Wheelers felt like they had a target on their backs due to the unrelenting attacks on Charlie in social media and elsewhere. Mainly her family and friends and others instgated by them not only blaming him for the killings but accusing him of carrying them out himself.

I would take what her friends say with a grain of salt. Everything with them has been one sided since the beginning and I question the veracity of their statements MOO.

Does anybody who has followed this from the beginning remember that website that seemed to be created to conduct a whisper campaign against Charlie specifically. Seems like the person called themself a witch and some of NO's friends were sharing these "whispers" on SM. Anybody remember that?

 

[BaffleMe]

I think Charlie's mother stated the Wheelers felt like they had a target on their backs due to the unrelenting attacks on Charlie in social media and elsewhere. Mainly her family and friends and others instgated by them not only blaming him for the killings but accusing him of carrying them out himself.

I would take what her friends say with a grain of salt. Everything with them has been one sided since the beginning and I question the veracity of their statements MOO.

Does anybody who has followed this from the beginning remember that website that seemed to be created to conduct a whisper campaign against Charlie specifically. Seems like the person called themself a witch and some of NO's friends were sharing these "whispers" on SM. Anybody remember that?

Yes, I remember it. It was really weird!

 

[happyday]

I think Charlie's mother stated the Wheelers felt like they had a target on their backs due to the unrelenting attacks on Charlie in social media and elsewhere. Mainly her family and friends and others instgated by them not only blaming him for the killings but accusing him of carrying them out himself.

I would take what her friends say with a grain of salt. Everything with them has been one sided since the beginning and I question the veracity of their statements MOO.

Does anybody who has followed this from the beginning remember that website that seemed to be created to conduct a whisper campaign against Charlie specifically. Seems like the person called themself a witch and some of NO's friends were sharing these "whispers" on SM. Anybody remember that?

I don’t know. I think her friends could be exaggerating some things, but the accounts about their relationship in that article are pretty specific, and I have no reason to think they just made them up. I think they had good reason to not feel good about their friend’s relationship w/CW, and then she and her daughters turn up dead in his house, so I can understand their suspicions and anger. I don’t think he killed them, and it sounds like the girls’ fathers don’t either, but I do think she was in an abusive situation with him.

She had issues, and so did he evidenced by his past record of DUI’s, drunken arrests, habitual extreme speeding, flipping off cops, getting kicked out of bars and a hotel for being violent (this is NOT a normal thing!). Those things are undisputed, so why wouldn’t I believe the friends who said he controlled her every move and was emotionally abusive (and maybe worse w/her showing up w/black eyes etc.)?

Unless evidence turns up to show differently, I think he did not kill them, but I think they brought out the worst in each other (someone said that earlier, and I agree) and he was indeed abusive to her. With paternity issues and pills and her erratic behavior, I really don’t know what exactly led up to her snapping, but I’m just saying I do not think he sounds like a nice boyfriend who was contributing in a good way to her health and well being.

 

[BaffleMe]

I don’t know. I think her friends could be exaggerating some things, but the accounts about their relationship in that article are pretty specific, and I have no reason to think they just made them up. I think they had good reason to not feel good about their friend’s relationship w/CW, and then she and her daughters turn up dead in his house, so I can understand their suspicions and anger. I don’t think he killed them, and it sounds like the girls’ fathers don’t either, but I do think she was in an abusive situation with him.

She had issues, and so did he evidenced by his past record of DUI’s, drunken arrests, habitual extreme speeding, flipping off cops, getting kicked out of bars and a hotel for being violent (this is NOT a normal thing!). Those things are undisputed, so why wouldn’t I believe the friends who said he controlled her every move and was emotionally abusive (and maybe worse w/her showing up w/black eyes etc.)?

Unless evidence turns up to show differently, I think he did not kill them, but I think they brought out the worst in each other (someone said that earlier, and I agree) and he was indeed abusive to her. With paternity issues and pills and her erratic behavior, I really don’t know what exactly led up to her snapping, but I’m just saying I do not think he sounds like a nice boyfriend who was contributing in a good way to her health and well being.

It sounds like addictive behavior ran in both families, and that can lead to the unhealthy relationship. Above thread, someone mentioned CW texting with older daughter that night. Forgive me if I asked and/or this has been posted. But where is that info from?

 

[happyday]

It sounds like addictive behavior ran in both families, and that can lead to the unhealthy relationship. Above thread, someone mentioned CW texting with older daughter that night. Forgive me if I asked and/or this has been posted. But where is that info from?

Totally.

I think the texting info is from one of the most recent articles. I’ll see if I can find it.

Eta. Here it is:
A second lawsuit has been filed against Charles Edward Wheeler for the shooting deaths of his girlfriend and her two daughters at his Anaqua Springs Ranch home two years ago.

The lawsuit also claims Wheeler sent a text message to 16-year-old Alexa Montez the same night that said “I left your mom making me worried.” Someone using the teen’s phone then sent a text message to Wheeler’s phone that said “Are you here? I think she’s talking to herself.” That was followed by an emoji indicating fright, the lawsuit said.

Wheeler also told Justin Olsen he had been trying to call Alexa’s phone all night, but the teen did not answer, the lawsuit states. It further alleges Wheeler told investigating officers he “had been calling and texting Nichol and the girls all night and got no answer.” Yet, the lawsuit said, Wheeler didn’t alert the authorities.

 

[happyday]

Just FYI—this is about the paternity issue. It was texts between NO & one of the girl’s father that brought up paternity questions—hours before the deaths.

Anaqua Springs tragedy timeline, case still unsolved

“We find out more details about the investigation that shows the hours leading up to the deaths, one of the girl's father had texted with Olsen and one of the girl's paternity was brought into question.”

 

[BaffleMe]

Totally.

I think the texting info is from one of the most recent articles. I’ll see if I can find it.

Eta. Here it is:
A second lawsuit has been filed against Charles Edward Wheeler for the shooting deaths of his girlfriend and her two daughters at his Anaqua Springs Ranch home two years ago.

The lawsuit also claims Wheeler sent a text message to 16-year-old Alexa Montez the same night that said “I left your mom making me worried.” Someone using the teen’s phone then sent a text message to Wheeler’s phone that said “Are you here? I think she’s talking to herself.” That was followed by an emoji indicating fright, the lawsuit said.

Wheeler also told Justin Olsen he had been trying to call Alexa’s phone all night, but the teen did not answer, the lawsuit states. It further alleges Wheeler told investigating officers he “had been calling and texting Nichol and the girls all night and got no answer.” Yet, the lawsuit said, Wheeler didn’t alert the authorities.

Thank you for the link. The lawsuit states "..........," but if the Sheriff retrieved all phones, and the phones verified the above mentioned interactions, wouldn't that answer all questions as to what happened to cause three deaths? Again, that feeling of a missing piece.

 

[BaffleMe]

Just FYI—this is about the paternity issue. It was texts between NO & one of the girl’s father that brought up paternity questions—hours before the deaths.

Anaqua Springs tragedy timeline, case still unsolved

“We find out more details about the investigation that shows the hours leading up to the deaths, one of the girl's father had texted with Olsen and one of the girl's paternity was brought into question.”

Sorry; I am not getting anything from this article. There are no actual texts, no specifics on paternity question. Is it just me? IMHO, something is odd. Info seems to have a lot of gray vs. black and/or white.

 

[Backstroke10]

In reading some of the linked articles... There seems to be contradictory statements being made by the friends in one of the posted articles, versus what London’s dad said in another article posted up thread.


Per the Express News Article: “The 37 year old doted on her daughters, leaving work by 2:30 everyday to pick them up from school”.


But according to the interview Hector gave, his family had possession of London every weekend, from Thursday afternoon, until Monday. He also states London was increasingly frustrated with the amount of time her mom spent with her. Strangely enough, in that same article, he says Nichol had become more interested in London’s life the past few years. I’m curious about the circumstances surrounding him choosing those words.

I’ve noticed this as well. From reading many articles it appears as though NO did not have custody of her son when he was younger and that she didn’t have her daughters on the weekends. This is unusual and I wonder why. MOO
Maybe she wasn’t very stable for a long time. MOO
I think NO should have removed her daughters from that house after he gave her a black eye (if that’s true). If not then, well she should have removed them after the Galveston incident. MOO
I’m not judging her for going back to CW after these incidents but she should have at least removed her daughters from that volatile environment. MOO

 

[happyday]

Thank you for the link. The lawsuit states "..........," but if the Sheriff retrieved all phones, and the phones verified the above mentioned interactions, wouldn't that answer all questions as to what happened to cause three deaths? Again, that feeling of a missing piece.

Well yeah, that’s what I keep thinking—these texts make it pretty clear what happened. And if his phone location verifies where he says he was, then what’s the problem in closing the case?
But then, if his phone location while sending these texts contradicts where he says he was—like if his and Alexa’s phone were both in the house while the texts went back and forth, then he would definitely be a suspect. But he’s not.

 

[Backstroke10]

Well yeah, that’s what I keep thinking—these texts make it pretty clear what happened. And if his phone location verifies where he says he was, then what’s the problem in closing the case?
But then, if his phone location while sending these texts contradicts where he says he was—like if his and Alexa’s phone were both in the house while the texts went back and forth, then he would definitely be a suspect. But he’s not.

I don’t understand this either. Let’s say that LE knows he wasn’t there. If they have proof of abuse in the relationship and the escalating argument that night, could LE (the DA) be working on charging him with something? Manslaughter? I have no idea what they could charge him with but maybe they are working on something. MOO

 

[Sagekitty]

Can we get a link for this please? Thanks.

I finally found the actual article:

Someone using Nichol Olsen's cell phone called 911 four times the night before she and her two daughters were found shot to death at her boyfriend's Anaqua Springs Ranch home.

Here's an excerpt:

Two hours before that, starting at 9:04 PM, Olsen and 10-year-old London spoke by phone with the child's father, Hector Bribiescas, for 18 minutes.

In an interview with the Express-News a year ago, Bribiescas recalled both his daughter and Olsen sounded normal when he talked to them that night. They discussed London's singing, whether she should audition for the America's Got Talent TV show and possibly enrolling her in voice lessons.

"There was no indication that would be it," Hector Bribiescas said of their final conversation."

That call ended at 9:22 PM.

Olsen's phone bill also shows she exchanged at least six phone calls earlier that day with a friend, Debbie Fox. They had been planning to take their daughters to the America's Got Talent auditions two days later. But Olsen called Fox for the last time at 6:45 PM and abruptly canceled those plans.

 

[Orgona]

I don’t understand this either. Let’s say that LE knows he wasn’t there. If they have proof of abuse in the relationship and the escalating argument that night, could LE (the DA) be working on charging him with something? Manslaughter? I have no idea what they could charge him with but maybe they are working on something. MOO

It would surprise me if they could charge him with anything if he wasn’t there, but IANAL.

If this is not the first time he left them alone after an argument to let her cool down and she ignored his text other times too, then I can’t see how he could have predicted it.

But even if this was the first time nobody responded to CW after awhile, after such blow up, IMO CW couldn’t have known that NO didn’t just took the phones from the girls and wasn’t just ignoring him. And he couldn’t have known what she was going to do next. Unless she has threatened with it before.

Maybe the civil suit is the only possibility to make him pay for the alleged abuse.
Unless LE can proof he killed at least the girls. Then LE can make him pay for it.
But I still think it wasn’t him, whatever my opinion is about his “boyfriend “ qualities...

 

[Txgirl08]

I finally found the actual article:

Someone using Nichol Olsen's cell phone called 911 four times the night before she and her two daughters were found shot to death at her boyfriend's Anaqua Springs Ranch home.

Here's an excerpt:

Two hours before that, starting at 9:04 PM, Olsen and 10-year-old London spoke by phone with the child's father, Hector Bribiescas, for 18 minutes.

In an interview with the Express-News a year ago, Bribiescas recalled both his daughter and Olsen sounded normal when he talked to them that night. They discussed London's singing, whether she should audition for the America's Got Talent TV show and possibly enrolling her in voice lessons.

"There was no indication that would be it," Hector Bribiescas said of their final conversation."

That call ended at 9:22 PM.

Olsen's phone bill also shows she exchanged at least six phone calls earlier that day with a friend, Debbie Fox. They had been planning to take their daughters to the America's Got Talent auditions two days later. But Olsen called Fox for the last time at 6:45 PM and abruptly canceled those plans.

I wonder when the paternity issue came up through all that. Prior to the 18 minute phone call, or after. There’s less than two hours between the end of that phone call, and those 911 calls.

 

[FrostOwl]

I don’t know. I think her friends could be exaggerating some things, but the accounts about their relationship in that article are pretty specific, and I have no reason to think they just made them up. I think they had good reason to not feel good about their friend’s relationship w/CW, and then she and her daughters turn up dead in his house, so I can understand their suspicions and anger. I don’t think he killed them, and it sounds like the girls’ fathers don’t either, but I do think she was in an abusive situation with him.

She had issues, and so did he evidenced by his past record of DUI’s, drunken arrests, habitual extreme speeding, flipping off cops, getting kicked out of bars and a hotel for being violent (this is NOT a normal thing!). Those things are undisputed, so why wouldn’t I believe the friends who said he controlled her every move and was emotionally abusive (and maybe worse w/her showing up w/black eyes etc.)?

Unless evidence turns up to show differently, I think he did not kill them, but I think they brought out the worst in each other (someone said that earlier, and I agree) and he was indeed abusive to her. With paternity issues and pills and her erratic behavior, I really don’t know what exactly led up to her snapping, but I’m just saying I do not think he sounds like a nice boyfriend who was contributing in a good way to her health and well being.

Yes, I agree it seems as there were at least emotional abuse in the relationship, and that it was not the first time NO was in an abusive relationship. She had been arrested in 2014 after having hit her then live-in boyfriend when drunk, and he had then dragged her out of the house. Could the memories of that incident have played a role what happened that last final evening? Had her daughters been witnesses to that, or to other similar things before? At least the oldest one would have remembered. The feeling of an repetion of that could have caused a quarrel between mother and daughter(s).
A single mother, her millionaire boyfriend and how their storybook romance ended in horror

 

[Backstroke10]

It would surprise me if they could charge him with anything if he wasn’t there, but IANAL.

If this is not the first time he left them alone after an argument to let her cool down and she ignored his text other times too, then I can’t see how he could have predicted it.

But even if this was the first time nobody responded to CW after awhile, after such blow up, IMO CW couldn’t have known that NO didn’t just took the phones from the girls and wasn’t just ignoring him. And he couldn’t have known what she was going to do next. Unless she has threatened with it before.

Maybe the civil suit is the only possibility to make him pay for the alleged abuse.
Unless LE can proof he killed at least the girls. Then LE can make him pay for it.
But I still think it wasn’t him, whatever my opinion is about his “boyfriend “ qualities...

I agree and have always believed he was innocent and should not be blamed for what happened that night. I was just throwing out ideas as to why LE hasn’t publicly cleared him in a response to a post by Happyday. MOO

 

[bears10]

I’ve noticed this as well. From reading many articles it appears as though NO did not have custody of her son when he was younger and that she didn’t have her daughters on the weekends. This is unusual and I wonder why. MOO
Maybe she wasn’t very stable for a long time. MOO
I think NO should have removed her daughters from that house after he gave her a black eye (if that’s true). If not then, well she should have removed them after the Galveston incident. MOO
I’m not judging her for going back to CW after these incidents but she should have at least removed her daughters from that volatile environment. MOO

IME it’s not unusual for parents to have 50/50 custody these days. If where the non custodial parent lives is in a different school district, I guess it makes sense for custody to always be on the weekends, although a lot of parents I know don’t prefer that arrangement. When people were commenting up thread about it being surprising that CW was okay with the kids living in his house (I’m paraphrasing) I didn’t see it the same way. NO (and CW) got to live her weekends like any childless couple.

HBs lawsuit flat out states that Nichol went into CWs drawer and took out the loaded gun, killed the kids, then killed herself. What do they know that we don’t? Or are they just making an assumption? It isn’t stated like an assumption in my opinion.

Imo I don’t think CW is guilty. And if he isn’t, I feel bad for him, regardless of how tumultuous their relationship was.