TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

[Backstroke10]

I wonder when the paternity issue came up through all that. Prior to the 18 minute phone call, or after. There’s less than two hours between the end of that phone call, and those 911 calls.

I don’t understand when the paternity issue came up either.

If it came up during the 18 minute call, I don’t believe they would have sounded normal. Mr. B says they sounded fine. This makes me think it was the last time he talked to them.

If he talked to them again later (after the 18 minute call) about paternity, why wouldn’t he mention this and I don’t think they would have sounded normal and okay.

Was the the paternity issue brought up in a phone call prior to the 18 minute call? If so, I don’t think they would have sounded normal/okay during the later 18 minute call
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Something isn’t right here. MOO

 

[bears10]

I finally found the actual article:

Someone using Nichol Olsen's cell phone called 911 four times the night before she and her two daughters were found shot to death at her boyfriend's Anaqua Springs Ranch home.

Here's an excerpt:

Two hours before that, starting at 9:04 PM, Olsen and 10-year-old London spoke by phone with the child's father, Hector Bribiescas, for 18 minutes.

In an interview with the Express-News a year ago, Bribiescas recalled both his daughter and Olsen sounded normal when he talked to them that night. They discussed London's singing, whether she should audition for the America's Got Talent TV show and possibly enrolling her in voice lessons.

"There was no indication that would be it," Hector Bribiescas said of their final conversation."

That call ended at 9:22 PM.

Olsen's phone bill also shows she exchanged at least six phone calls earlier that day with a friend, Debbie Fox. They had been planning to take their daughters to the America's Got Talent auditions two days later. But Olsen called Fox for the last time at 6:45 PM and abruptly canceled those plans.

In another link, it says HB and NO decided against the America’s got talent audition, so I feel like it wasn’t really all that abrupt of a decision to NO.

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They discussed whether London should participate in auditions for the TV show “America’s Got Talent” in San Antonio the next morning and decided against it.
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Some other interesting statements from the article ...

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The girl never mentioned any problems at the Anaqua Springs residence and never mentioned Wheeler.

“London, of course, loved the house,” Bribiescas said of Wheeler’s $1 million home. “She loved the swimming pool, she loved all that … She never said anything negative about a situation there.”


Snip


London’s feelings would get hurt when her mother and Wheeler took frequent trips out of town by themselves on the weekends while the children were elsewhere, he said.


Snip


Olsen could be outgoing when she was in the mood, he said, but there were times she appeared standoffish with some people. She didn’t fake interest in conversations.

“She was like a firecracker if she got mad,” he said.


Father losing patience with sheriff’s office about his daughter’s killing as Anaqua Springs investigation remains open

 

[Txgirl08]

I don’t understand when the paternity issue came up either.

If it came up during the 18 minute call, I don’t believe they would have sounded normal. Mr. B says they sounded fine. This makes me think it was the last time he talked to them.

If he talked to them again later (after the 18 minute call) about paternity, why wouldn’t he mention this and I don’t think they would have sounded normal and okay.

Was the the paternity issue brought up in a phone call prior to the 18 minute call? If so, I don’t think they would have sounded normal/okay during the later 18 minute call
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Something isn’t right here. MOO

Exactly my point! How could everything be “normal” if you had already questioned paternity that day, or were about to question paternity. She was already 10 years old! That’s a HEAVY topic.

Also, if she had cancelled the audition with her friend around 6:45.. it doesn’t seem like there was much to discuss with the dad at 9.. beyond “she’s not going”.

None of it makes sense. IMO

 

[DEB-Z]

I don’t understand this either. Let’s say that LE knows he wasn’t there. If they have proof of abuse in the relationship and the escalating argument that night, could LE (the DA) be working on charging him with something? Manslaughter? I have no idea what they could charge him with but maybe they are working on something. MOO

I cannot understand how the boyfriend can be charged with anything:
If he was not at the house, and removed himself; so his live-in girlfriend could cool down, settle things down with the daughter’s father on the phone, and he could remove himself from the drama of her cancelling the AGT audition, which could have caused the daughter to become upset...
Was there an entrance fee for the AGT show? If so could the mom have asked the girl’s father to pay the fee and he could have brought up about her paternity...
Did she ask her boyfriend to pay for the fee, if there was money due to enter contest; perhaps boyfriend told her; he should not be paying this type of fee when she has parents to pay for this...
She obviously has a history of violence too, did not have her children the majority of the time, snd did not work full time giving she was out mid afternoon...
If she was being asked to leave the house, and thus end another relationship;
She would need funds to support herself, and her children, obviously unless she was getting large amounts in child support, she probably would have to work many hours, and have a drastic change of lifestyle; unless she was independently wealthy...
It appears the fathers are now seeking funds from this boyfriend as well:
Many in this story appear to be seeking money,
prior to and following the deaths, including the fathers’ attorneys MOO...
I would never settle with these fathers if I was the boyfriend...
It is tragic that they lost their daughters, yet perhaps because they were not with their own daughters that evening, they could be equally responsible...
Where is Ann Rule when she is needed to investigate this story, and write a bestselling book; May she RIP...

 

[FrostOwl]

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I think NO should have removed her daughters from that house after he gave her a black eye (if that’s true). If not then, well she should have removed them after the Galveston incident. MOO
I’m not judging her for going back to CW after these incidents but she should have at least removed her daughters from that volatile environment. MOO

As for the black eye incident, NO seems to have wanted more or less ignore it. Could it have been that she had hit CW first, and that he had retaliated? She had at least once before hit a boyfriend first. Not that this excuses CW for hitting her (back?, nor her for hitting someone), but if someone is drunk, there is action before thinking.

 

[Backstroke10]

IME it’s not unusual for parents to have 50/50 custody these days. If where the non custodial parent lives is in a different school district, I guess it makes sense for custody to always be on the weekends, although a lot of parents I know don’t prefer that arrangement. When people were commenting up thread about it being surprising that CW was okay with the kids living in his house (I’m paraphrasing) I didn’t see it the same way. NO (and CW) got to live her weekends like any childless couple.

HBs lawsuit flat out states that Nichol went into CWs drawer and took out the loaded gun, killed the kids, then killed herself. What do they know that we don’t? Or are they just making an assumption? It isn’t stated like an assumption in my opinion.

Imo I don’t think CW is guilty. And if he isn’t, I feel bad for him, regardless of how tumultuous their relationship was.

BBM Agree. I got divorced when my son was 2. His father had him every other weekend. My son is my life but I was in my early 30s and needed those weekends sometimes to go on a date or just do nothing.

I don’t know how you find these articles/information that I’ve never seen. You’re good at this. That’s very interesting information in that lawsuit. Wow. Yeah, they know a lot more than we do.

I agree. If he’s innocent, the sheriff needs to publicly clear him.
MOO

 

[FrostOwl]

<snip>
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Some other interesting statements from the article ...

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The girl never mentioned any problems at the Anaqua Springs residence and never mentioned Wheeler.

“London, of course, loved the house,” Bribiescas said of Wheeler’s $1 million home. “She loved the swimming pool, she loved all that … She never said anything negative about a situation there.”


Snip


London’s feelings would get hurt when her mother and Wheeler took frequent trips out of town by themselves on the weekends while the children were elsewhere, he said.


Snip


Olsen could be outgoing when she was in the mood, he said, but there were times she appeared standoffish with some people. She didn’t fake interest in conversations.

“She was like a firecracker if she got mad,” he said.


Father losing patience with sheriff’s office about his daughter’s killing as Anaqua Springs investigation remains open

It would be interesting to know how much time CW (and any other earlier boyfriend of NO) had spent with the girls. That London never mentioned CW sounds very odd, was it because she hardly saw him, or didn't she want to talk about him with her father, did she think HB would get angry/jealous if she mentioned him, and/or things they might have done. It seems as if London would had liked to go with her mother and CW when they travelled in the weekends. Whose decision was it that she couldn't go with them, NO, CW, or HB?

 

[Backstroke10]

In another link, it says HB and NO decided against the America’s got talent audition, so I feel like it wasn’t really all that abrupt of a decision to NO.

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They discussed whether London should participate in auditions for the TV show “America’s Got Talent” in San Antonio the next morning and decided against it.
—

Some other interesting statements from the article ...

—
The girl never mentioned any problems at the Anaqua Springs residence and never mentioned Wheeler.

“London, of course, loved the house,” Bribiescas said of Wheeler’s $1 million home. “She loved the swimming pool, she loved all that … She never said anything negative about a situation there.”


Snip


London’s feelings would get hurt when her mother and Wheeler took frequent trips out of town by themselves on the weekends while the children were elsewhere, he said.


Snip


Olsen could be outgoing when she was in the mood, he said, but there were times she appeared standoffish with some people. She didn’t fake interest in conversations.

“She was like a firecracker if she got mad,” he said.


Father losing patience with sheriff’s office about his daughter’s killing as Anaqua Springs investigation remains open

I find this all very interesting. It sounds like the girls really liked CW. In fact, London wanted to go on trips with them. MOO

Exactly my point! How could everything be “normal” if you had already questioned paternity that day, or were about to question paternity. She was already 10 years old! That’s a HEAVY topic.

Also, if she had cancelled the audition with her friend around 6:45.. it doesn’t seem like there was much to discuss with the dad at 9.. beyond “she’s not going”.

None of it makes sense. IMO

ITA! Something is very wrong regarding the phone calls with Mr. B. Something is being left out. I would love to see the phone records that shows ALL calls to and from NO and her daughters that night. Something is wrong here. MOO

 

[bears10]

BBM Agree. I got divorced when my son was 2. His father had him every other weekend. My son is my life but I was in my early 30s and needed those weekends sometimes to go on a date or just do nothing.

I don’t know how you find these articles/information that I’ve never seen. You’re good at this. That’s very interesting information in that lawsuit. Wow. Yeah, they know a lot more than we do.

I agree. If he’s innocent, the sheriff needs to publicly clear him.
MOO

BBM. Yes! Without a doubt. I’m a stepmom, and my stepkids are older now, but when they were younger, you bet I often looked forward to my weekends alone with my husband. And their mom looked forward to their weekends with us.

yes the lawsuit is interesting to me too. I am very curious what alexas dads lawsuit has to say. I haven’t seen it posted anywhere, so idk if it’s Public, but if anyone has a link I’d be interested in reading.

 

[Backstroke10]

I cannot understand how the boyfriend can be charged with anything:
If he was not at the house, and removed himself; so his live-in girlfriend could cool down, settle things down with the daughter’s father on the phone, and he could remove himself from the drama of her cancelling the AGT audition, which could have caused the daughter to become upset...
Was there an entrance fee for the AGT show? If so could the mom have asked the girl’s father to pay the fee and he could have brought up about her paternity...
Did she ask her boyfriend to pay for the fee, if there was money due to enter contest; perhaps boyfriend told her; he should not be paying this type of fee when she has parents to pay for this...
She obviously has a history of violence too, did not have her children the majority of the time, snd did not work full time giving she was out mid afternoon...
If she was being asked to leave the house, and thus end another relationship;
She would need funds to support herself, and her children, obviously unless she was getting large amounts in child support, she probably would have to work many hours, and have a drastic change of lifestyle; unless she was independently wealthy...
It appears the fathers are now seeking funds from this boyfriend as well:
Many in this story appear to be seeking money,
prior to and following the deaths, including the fathers’ attorneys MOO...
I would never settle with these fathers if I was the boyfriend...
It is tragic that they lost their daughters, yet perhaps because they were not with their own daughters that evening, they could be equally responsible...
Where is Ann Rule when she is needed to investigate this story, and write a bestselling book; May she RIP...

Great post Deb. ITA! Obviously LE has not been able to put CW, his phone or his car at the scene. If they could, I’m sure he would have been arrested by now. MOO
LOL I love your Ann Rule comment.

 

[Txgirl08]

I hadn’t seen this yet from the friend she was going to the audition with. The pieces are definitely starting to paint a picture of her being erratic. Pills make complete sense with the friends description of that day. If her behavior was already strange at 6:45, then it doesn’t really make sense she was acting completely normal during the 9 pm call with London’s dad. IMO

 

[Backstroke10]

I hadn’t seen this yet from the friend she was going to the audition with. The pieces are definitely starting to paint a picture of her being erratic. Pills make complete sense with the friends description of that day. If her behavior was already strange at 6:45, then it doesn’t really make sense she was acting completely normal during the 9 pm call with London’s dad. IMO

Thanks for posting that article. I hadn’t seen it either. It sounds like something was definitely wrong at 6:45. Maybe she had some kind of drug induced psychotic break. I had a friend who started abusing adderall. I think he was around 38 yrs old when he started taking it. He was taking anywhere from 5-20 pills a day. He got rid of all his electronics in his house, thinking the FBI was listening to him. He would talk to himself. He ended up nearly killing his father and injured his two kids. He was in jail for about 6 months. I don’t know what happened to him after that. Anyway, it makes me wonder if NO had some kind of mental break???

I find it extremely hard to believe that NO sounded normal during that last call with Mr. B. Of course, he can say whatever he wants about that call since there is no one alive to dispute it.
MOO

 

[elliefant]

I hadn’t seen this yet from the friend she was going to the audition with. The pieces are definitely starting to paint a picture of her being erratic. Pills make complete sense with the friends description of that day. If her behavior was already strange at 6:45, then it doesn’t really make sense she was acting completely normal during the 9 pm call with London’s dad. IMO

The description sounds like my friend is when her bipolar disorder is out of whack and she is being manic. Not diagnosing Nichol obviously, just saying what her conversation reminds me of.

 

[Txgirl08]

Thanks for posting that article. I hadn’t seen it either. It sounds like something was definitely wrong at 6:45. Maybe she had some kind of drug induced psychotic break. I had a friend who started abusing adderall. I think he was around 38 yrs old when he started taking it. He was taking anywhere from 5-20 pills a day. He got rid of all his electronics in his house, thinking the FBI was listening to him. He would talk to himself. He ended up nearly killing his father and injured his two kids. He was in jail for about 6 months. I don’t know what happened to him after that. Anyway, it makes me wonder if NO had some kind of mental break???

I find it extremely hard to believe that NO sounded normal during that last call with Mr. B. Of course, he can say whatever he wants about that call since there is no one alive to dispute it.
MOO

That’s awful. But not surprising. Don’t most pills have the “may cause suicidal/homicidal thoughts” disclaimer on the pamphlet? Wonder what her pill of choice was.

 

[BaffleMe]

Well yeah, that’s what I keep thinking—these texts make it pretty clear what happened. And if his phone location verifies where he says he was, then what’s the problem in closing the case?
But then, if his phone location while sending these texts contradicts where he says he was—like if his and Alexa’s phone were both in the house while the texts went back and forth, then he would definitely be a suspect. But he’s not.

Well, honestly, I don't think we know all the facts. Wish we did.

 

[BaffleMe]

I don’t understand when the paternity issue came up either.

If it came up during the 18 minute call, I don’t believe they would have sounded normal. Mr. B says they sounded fine. This makes me think it was the last time he talked to them.

If he talked to them again later (after the 18 minute call) about paternity, why wouldn’t he mention this and I don’t think they would have sounded normal and okay.

Was the the paternity issue brought up in a phone call prior to the 18 minute call? If so, I don’t think they would have sounded normal/okay during the later 18 minute call
.
Something isn’t right here. MOO

Could the argument have started after the 18 min call, and perhaps about the call? (just a thought)

 

[sandy_80]

relatives are always in defence mode when it comes to their close ones...but they simply don't know...I wonder if she was psychologically
evaluated, and whether that was the lurking fear behind losing custody if we are going to take things as they look

 

[Backstroke10]

The description sounds like my friend is when her bipolar disorder is out of whack and she is being manic. Not diagnosing Nichol obviously, just saying what her conversation reminds me of.

BBM I thought about this as well.

Could the argument have started after the 18 min call, and perhaps about the call? (just a thought)

Anything is possible because we just don’t know what happened that night. We don’t have all the details and probably never will.

IMO something triggered the events that took place. I think the trigger was the paternity issue with London’s dad. So my question is when did the paternity issue come up? Mr. B says London and NO sounded normal during the 18 minute call. If that’s true then when did the paternity issue come up. After 10 yrs of thinking London was his daughter and London thinking he was her Dad, I don’t believe that everyone would have been just fine and normal. MOO

 

[BaffleMe]

BBM I thought about this as well.


Anything is possible because we just don’t know what happened that night. We don’t have all the details and probably never will.

IMO something triggered the events that took place. I think the trigger was the paternity issue with London’s dad. So my question is when did the paternity issue come up? Mr. B says London and NO sounded normal during the 18 minute call. If that’s true then when did the paternity issue come up. After 10 yrs of thinking London was his daughter and London thinking he was her Dad, I don’t believe that everyone would have been just fine and normal. MOO

With that theory, based on NO sounding normal, where is the connectiion to an argument with CW? Could he have been uncomfortable with the conversation taking place? (And in his house?) These are just thoughts.....

 

[MimosaMornings]

The paternity issue was in communication, so wonder if London posted something on SM? Or in a text? Maybe it wasn’t in audio conversation on the cell phone.