TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & her 2 daughters found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019

[twoboysmom]

“Sheriff: Boyfriend of woman in San Antonio triple shooting is ‘person of interest,’ not a suspect”

“The boyfriend of a woman found shot to death with her two daughters in a gated community of luxury homes near Leon Springs is a ‘person of interest,’ but not a suspect in the case, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said Thursday.

Charlie Wheeler, 31, has cooperated fully with the investigation and submitted to tests seeking any traces of gunshot residue on his hands, the sheriff said.

‘He’s been cooperative with us knowing full well that under the circumstances he’s a person of interest,’ Salazar said. ‘We’re not calling anybody a suspect at this point.’

One of Wheeler’s attorneys expressed frustration with the sheriff’s comments and said there is no probable cause indicating Wheeler committed any crime.

‘We think it is regrettable that this young man is being demonized, that he’s now being publicly identified,’ said San Antonio attorney Mark Stevens, one of three lawyers representing Wheeler. ‘He is a young man with no criminal record for violence whatsoever.

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Attorneys Therese Huntzinger and Patrick Hancock are also part of Wheeler’s legal team.

[SBM]

Wheeler told officers he found the victims’ bodies when he returned home around 9 a.m. that morning after staying at a relative’s home in another city the night before. Wheeler had departed the residence the previous evening due to conflict in the home, the sheriff said. Investigators are still working to verify his whereabouts during that time period.

‘People have told us that this wasn’t the happiest of relationships,’ Salazar said of Wheeler and Olsen. ‘We take that information into account ... but we can’t just rely on that as a determining factor in motive or anything like that.’”

Sheriff: Boyfriend of woman in San Antonio triple shooting is ‘person of interest,’ not a suspect

I was hoping the girls were in their beds asleep. Unfortunately, that's not the case from the above link.

"The three were found close together on the floor of a common area on the second floor of the house, Salazar said. A handgun was found in close proximity to Olsen’s body, he said. No suicide note was found."

 

[Backstroke10]

I believe he said they aren’t jumping to the conclusion that she committed the homicides. There were 3 deaths here, not just 1. I heard him say they are continuing to investigate, but I never heard him disagree that it was a suicide. Granted he was he was extremely hard to follow and downright misleading, in my opinion, hence my original post. After really listening and dissecting, my understanding is that they just aren’t ready to say she killed her girls. But again, even if he is disagreeing with the ME, that just reaffirms my opinion that he is an incompetent LE officer because you literally can NOT successfully prosecute anyone for a death, EVER, that was determined to be a suicide by the ME. The evidence would be legally insufficient on its face. In every homicide case, the only way to meet all of your elements, is to call the person that performed the autopsy to state the manner and Means of death. A lay person can’t give you that evidence. A cop can’t give you that evidence. That’s not enough. It has to be the doctor that relied on science to make the determination. LE is who provided the ME with the information they used to make their determination, so if they wanted the ME to hold off on making a finding, all they had to do was tell the ME to hold off. I know this from personal experience.

Exactly! The ME would have to change the COD to homicide before LE could charge someone for her murder. IMO LE doesn’t seem to be questioning her COD as suicide. It appears to me they are investigating further (dotting i’s and crossing t’s) the COD for the daughters. Before they say she killed her daughters they have to be absolutely positive with all the evidence backing it up.

 

[Maradentro]

And shocker, the were fighting that night, which is why he left and stayed outside of the home. Which pushed her over the edge and in the same breath gave her the opportunity to carry out the ultimate outcome.

You certainly cannot state this as fact in the slightest. This is obviously an ongoing investigation and LE has yet to verify ANY of this.

 

[Jay Deuce]

Exactly! The ME would have to change the COS to homicide before LE could charge someone for her murder. IMO LE doesn’t seem to be questioning her COS as suicide. It appears to me they are investigating further (dotting i’s and crossing t’s) the COS for the daughters. Before they say she killed her daughters they have to be absolutely positive with all the evidence backing it up.

EXACTLY. And they would probably have given us their opinions/determination by now if it weren’t for the witch hunt and public uproar that her friends have created. They’ve gone so far as to accuse LE of being paid off by CW’s family. So of course they are going to above and beyond to prove what happened so it’s cleaely a legitimate investigation.

 

[Jay Deuce]

You certainly cannot state this as fact in the slightest. This is obviously an ongoing investigation and LE has yet to verify ANY of this.

I just read this in quotes in an above post?

 

[angelainwi]

EXACTLY. And they would probably have given us their opinions/determination by now if it weren’t for the witch hunt and public uproar that her friends have created. They’ve gone so far as to accuse LE of being paid off by CW’s family. So of course they are going to above and beyond to prove what happened so it’s cleaely a legitimate investigation.

It is not a witch hunt. <modsnip: personalizing>. They are in the process of a ton of testing. How can they give us their determinations if they still have unanswered questions that might be germane to those determinations. And they are not just doing this to appease her friends.

 

[bears10]

Some of that is very recent, but for the most part, I know what’s been said. I’ve also successfully prosecuted murders and capital murders and I know what is needed in order to do so. And I know how MEs determine COD.

He also, in no uncertain terms, said Charlie is NOT a suspect and has been fully cooperative. You want to point on how much time has passed—that’s also plenty of time to decide someone is a suspect. By all accounts, his story checks out.

And shocker, the were fighting that night, which is why he left and stayed outside of the home. Which pushed her over the edge and in the same breath gave her the opportunity to carry out the ultimate outcome.

From the very beginning I haven’t been able to shake the feeling that they got in a fight, he left, and she snapped.

 

[LaborDayRN]

I'm not a Mod but I see you are pretty new around here. Welcome to web sleuths Jay Deuce. WS is a great place but it does have standards. It seems you are emotionally invested in this case but calling people names isn't tolerated. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with TOS. We'd love for you to become a verified insider if you are a local to this case. I bet you have lot's of info to share and discuss. It's a very easy process that would allow you more flexibility in what you post.

 

[Backstroke10]

EXACTLY. And they would probably have given us their opinions/determination by now if it weren’t for the witch hunt and public uproar that her friends have created. They’ve gone so far as to accuse LE of being paid off by CW’s family. So of course they are going to above and beyond to prove what happened so it’s cleaely a legitimate investigation.

YES! I completely agree! The family/friends do not want to accept that she could have done this so they are accusing CW. I’m quite sure LE already knows exactly where he was that night. This man had no reason to kill her and her daughters. This may sound harsh but IMO he could basically take her or leave her. He is young, wealthy and probably quite the ladies man. He may be a total jerk and possibly abusive at times but that doesn’t mean he murdered her and her daughters. IMO

 

[angelainwi]

I'm not a Mod but I see you are pretty new around here. Welcome. WS is a great place but it does have standards. It seems you are emotionally invested in this case but calling people names isn't tolerated. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with TOS. We'd love for you to become a verified insider. It's a very easy process that would allow you more flexibility in what you post.

Thank you for expressing it better than I did. I can only imagine how difficult it is when someone close to you is a POI in a horrific death. I do not know how one cannot be emotionally invested and one becomes naturally defensive of the person they know.

 

[bears10]

Thank you for expressing it better than I did. I can only imagine how difficult it is when someone close to you is a POI in a horrific death. I do not know how one cannot be emotionally invested and one becomes naturally defensive of the person they know.

What am I missing? Where did this poster say they know CW? <modsnip: personalizing>

 

[rigsby2]

Does anyone know what NOs tattoo says? (The one above her chest, that ends on her shoulder). Or what the one on her forearm is? Is it a rope or lasso or.. ?

 

[angelainwi]

Does anyone know what NOs tattoo says? (The one above her chest, that ends on her shoulder). Or what the one on her forearm is? Is it a rope or lasso or.. ?
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Could be a rope or lasso, it appears that CW is well known on the rodeo circuit and maybe she was involved in the circuit as well?

 

[squid]

That’s exactly what I thought. I didn’t see anything bad either in fact I agree with him.

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[Starkville]

Does anyone know what NOs tattoo says? (The one above her chest, that ends on her shoulder). Or what the one on her forearm is? Is it a rope or lasso or.. ?
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I believe one of them is a pair of scissors. (Since she was a hairstylist!)

 

[mickey2942]

Does anyone know what NOs tattoo says? (The one above her chest, that ends on her shoulder). Or what the one on her forearm is? Is it a rope or lasso or.. ?
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Interesting and conflicting research on tattoos and Personality disorders/mental health issues and suicidal behavior.

Tattoos linked to personality disorder

 

[angelainwi]

Interesting and conflicting research on tattoos and Personality disorders/mental health issues and suicidal behavior.

Tattoos linked to personality disorder

Wow, really.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Rose787]

This is my active imagination of what happened that night. Just to be clear, this is all opinion and no facts accept they were found in the same room together and there was conflict that night. Sorry it’s a little dramatic but emotionally charged events usually are.

So CW leaves and NO has a meltdown. She isn’t thinking straight. Possibly this fight has occurred multiple times and she cannot handle it. She grabs the home protection gun to shoot herself and her daughters come running to her side. They are screaming mom don’t do this and crying. She looks at their sad faces and thinks about the pain her daughters are in and how painful it would be if she left them (mentally she is not thinking straight). She shoots the oldest one first and the younger one rushes to her sister’s side. Paralyzed by the disbelief that her mom just shot her sister. Younger daughter looks up and realizes she is next, tries to run, gets shot in the throat, and then the head. NO then turns the gun on herself.

I think if he had killed the daughters, they would not be in the same room because they would have hid from him from the start. JMO.

I am curious what gun was used because of the accuracy of the shots. As a woman whose husband leaves town a lot, I have a 9mm with a laser pointer and special bullets for kill shots (separate from practice bullets). Thankfully I’ve not had to use them.

 

[squid]

“The boyfriend of a woman found shot to death with her two daughters in a gated community of luxury homes near Leon Springs is a ‘person of interest,’ but not a suspect in the case, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar said Thursday.

Okay Sheriff what about the other "persons of interest" you referred to in the press conference the other day? Why is he not being asked about them? And why are the reporters not asking for his definition of POI as there is clearly confusion around this point?