TX - Sandra Bland, 28, found dead in jail cell, Waller County, 13 July 2015 #2

[arkansasmimi]

We didn't see the entire stop from the previous driver and we don't know for a fact he didn't have her exit her vehicle,but it was at shown to be at the same point (giving the warning) that he asked SB to step out of her car.
That indicates to me that he didn't ask the other driver to leave her vehicle in order to give her the warning ticket. IMO

Correct we did not see the entire stop. So to say or think or believe or whatever else did or didn't happen isn't fact... without seeing that whole complete stops video. You could say well I think this happened, and I can say I think something else happened. But to be factual on what happened, we would need the full video. JMHO

 

[kimlynn]

Correct we did not see the entire stop. So to say or think or believe or whatever else did or didn't happen isn't fact... without seeing that whole complete stops video. You could say well I think this happened, and I can say I think something else happened. But to be factual on what happened, we would need the full video. JMHO

True we don't know for a fact and probably never will unless the previous driver steps forward. I do think my assumption is reasonable based on what we did see. IMO

 

[arkansasmimi]

She was stopped for failure to signal a lane change. There is zero evidence that the cop saw her run the stop sign. Just because it's in the video, doesn't mean that he noticed her do it.

The car runs a stop sign BUT HE DOESN"T SEE IT? Yet He immediately turns around in the same place she ran it and speeds up to her???? :laughcry:

 

[IBsleuthin]

No, there is no evidence that she was murdered but there is enough inconsistencies and funny business to warrant a full independent investigation unto what happened. JMO

Bravo, and also of interest is the idea that if anyone should QUESTION whether or not there was a homicide here, then their post is a RANT.

Don't question the powers that be. Don't do it or the wrath will get you.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I read an article (can't find it now) that the lights activate the audio. His audio came on during the turn signal pull over. IMO

:goodpost: Sounds like that could be very possible for the dash cam. I gonna check see what find. But that doesn't mean he wasn't running her tags.

 

[IBsleuthin]

As a public it is our duty to question the illegal and abusive behavior of the small percentage of people who are employed by law enforcement agencies so that the decent, courageous people who are actually law enforcement officers can continue to do their work.

 

[arkansasmimi]

With all due respect, if he had not arrested her on this ridicules trumped up charge, she would have been on her way to her first day of work at her new job on that Monday morning. Instead she was rotting in jail with no hope of getting out. I think it's a safe bet that his arresting her was the cause of her suicide.

So yes, it is his fault. If he had done his job the way he should have, he would have just handed her the warning and walked back to his car, the same way he did with his previous stop. He was finished. He had no right to detain her after that.

As for charges. For one, he could be brought up on federal civil rights charges, but he won't be. Instead there will be a civil trial and the police department will make a large payout to her family. Thats what ALWAYS happens. The police in this country love to violate people civil rights, and then pay out billions of dollars in settlements. Because what the hell, it's not their money. It's just tax payer's money.

With all due respects, If she had followed the law, she wouldn't have been stopped to begin with. Period. Wasn't her first rodeo.
Can't file Civil Rights charges, until it is determined that her Civil Rights were violated. By the proper investigators. Not by your or I.
As for a civil trial and police department making lg payout to the family?? Would have to be a case filed, and either a judgement in favor of the family case or a settlement agreed upon. We have no idea YET what all the facts they have, until the investigations are done. Getting a little bit ahead of ourselves here. Seems like I remember a case last year where lots of MSM and social media and various people was said Civil Rights were violated, but the DOJ said they were not. JMHO just have to wait for the proper authorities to finish their investigation.

 

[IBsleuthin]

Respectfully BBM, dead because she committed suicide. Per Official Autopsy Report. Family has not proven otherwise, as far as I know, they havent released their Independent Autopsy Report.

Respectfully the 'Cause of death' would be asphyxia due to hanging.

The 'Manner of death' is actually a medical OPINION based on the findings during the autopsy.


Manner of death has been successfully argued in court before in many cases and overturned or changed from suicide to homicide.

If the jail has video of her hanging herself; well then this is simply over. But I don't know if they do.


https://www.harriscountytx.gov/ifs/cause.aspx

 

[ICit]

I have viewed the videos and have been reading this blog for days. I have some questions that I wish the media would have addressed;

Did Sandra Bland have a drivers license? In the video the policeman asks for license and registration and you can see thru the back window her hand something to him. He examines and then asks for her drivers license again. She replies something, perhaps "didn't I give that to you?" He replies "No mam". After a bit she mumbles something but you do NOT see her handing him anything. He replies OKAY.

If she had a valid drivers license, where is the photo? We saw Jodi Arias's drivers license?

Did the college actually hire her? Or was she hired pending drug test and background check?

Was there a bench warrant for her for failure to pay past fines and court costs? I know someone who was arrested and taken to jail for an outstanding unpaid traffic ticket. It was paid and she was able to provide proof at court.

Has the media become just another "Entertainment Show"? It seems like more and more they jump without verifying just so that they can become the FIRST to report on a story. Sensationalism is the rule of the day!

Were there drug tests upon entering jail? During her stay there? Where are the results?

She went before a judge and had the bond set. Where are those records?

I do not like partial stories that are full of accusations!

 

[IBsleuthin]

With all due respect, if he had not arrested her on this ridicules trumped up charge, she would have been on her way to her first day of work at her new job on that Monday morning. Instead she was rotting in jail with no hope of getting out. I think it's a safe bet that his arresting her was the cause of her suicide.

So yes, it is his fault. If he had done his job the way he should have, he would have just handed her the warning and walked back to his car, the same way he did with his previous stop. He was finished. He had no right to detain her after that.

As for charges. For one, he could be brought up on federal civil rights charges, but he won't be. Instead there will be a civil trial and the police department will make a large payout to her family. Thats what ALWAYS happens. The police in this country love to violate people civil rights, and then pay out billions of dollars in settlements. Because what the hell, it's not their money. It's just tax payer's money.

Contributing factor.

 

[cinsbythesea]

The car runs a stop sign BUT HE DOESN"T SEE IT? Yet He immediately turns around in the same place she ran it and speeds up to her???? :laughcry:

Yet he doesn't cite her for running the stop sign or even mention it during the stop? That makes no sense. Here in CA where traffic ticket stops are a great source of revenue for the city, county and even state, I do believe a ticket for failure to stop at a stop sign is a significantly higher fine than failing to signal a lane change. Running a stop sign is also potentially more dangerous than failing to signal a lane change on a lightly trafficked (that I could see) road. The fact that he fails to mention the stop sign or cite her for it, considering how contentious the stop became, would seem to indicate he didn't see her run the stop sign. IMO

 

[Confusion]

I have viewed the videos and have been reading this blog for days. I have some questions that I wish the media would have addressed;

Did Sandra Bland have a drivers license? In the video the policeman asks for license and registration and you can see thru the back window her hand something to him. He examines and then asks for her drivers license again. She replies something, perhaps "didn't I give that to you?" He replies "No mam". After a bit she mumbles something but you do NOT see her handing him anything. He replies OKAY.

If she had a valid drivers license, where is the photo? We saw Jodi Arias's drivers license?

Did the college actually hire her? Or was she hired pending drug test and background check?

Was there a bench warrant for her for failure to pay past fines and court costs? I know someone who was arrested and taken to jail for an outstanding unpaid traffic ticket. It was paid and she was able to provide proof at court.

Has the media become just another "Entertainment Show"? It seems like more and more they jump without verifying just so that they can become the FIRST to report on a story. Sensationalism is the rule of the day!

Were there drug tests upon entering jail? During her stay there? Where are the results?

She went before a judge and had the bond set. Where are those records?

I do not like partial stories that are full of accusations!

I think he would have included driving w/o a license if she hadn't given him one (or it hadn't cleared when he had them run it), and he would (or at least should) have told her if he was arresting her for an outstanding warrant.

There probably wasn't a tox screen done when she was booked since they have said she didn't appear to be under the influence of anything. What I remember reading is that she was to start her new job the following Monday, so I'm guessing she already took and passed any drug tests they needed.

MOO

 

[arkansasmimi]

We know from the released Tox Report, that Sandra Bland had marijuana in her system. That could explain whatever behavior from Bland when that Trooper BE asked when he went to the passenger side window and again when he went to the driver side window. If she had just smoked marijuana, that would explain why she did want to put out her cig. She would have been masking the scent of the marijuana. Its possible whiff of the marijuana smell and thus asked her politely to put out her cigarette. If he smelled the masked marijuana, he wouldn't have told her what he was doing or why. Maybe that's why she got all agitated when she did over the cig.

Texas Laws & Penalties
Offense Penalty Incarceration Max. Fine
Possession
2 oz or less Misdemeanor 180 days $ 2,000 http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Texas Stat. Code § 481.121 http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/HS/6/C/481/D/481.121

 

[TorisMom003]

If Ms. Bland had been driving without a license I feel sure that she would have been ticketed for that, if not arrested for that. However, she received (or was going to apparently) a warning for not using her signal when changing lanes. If BE had seen her run a stop sign I feel sure that she would have been ticketed for that as well. If there had been open arrest warrants out for Ms. Bland then that should have been the reason for the arrest. However, BE did NOT use that as the reason for the arrest and failed to inform her why she was being arrested even though she questioned that point several times. The public do have rights even when being stopped by police. BE apparently did not have enough training to inform him of this or he simply didn't care. It is my opinion that BE does not just need to be on a leave of absence but fired from the police force.

MOO

 

[TorisMom003]

We know from the released Tox Report, that Sandra Bland had marijuana in her system. That could explain whatever behavior from Bland when that Trooper BE asked when he went to the passenger side window and again when he went to the driver side window. If she had just smoked marijuana, that would explain why she did want to put out her cig. She would have been masking the scent of the marijuana. Its possible whiff of the marijuana smell and thus asked her politely to put out her cigarette. If he smelled the masked marijuana, he wouldn't have told her what he was doing or why. Maybe that's why she got all agitated when she did over the cig.

Texas Laws & Penalties
Offense Penalty Incarceration Max. Fine
Possession
2 oz or less Misdemeanor 180 days $ 2,000 http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Texas Stat. Code § 481.121 http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/HS/6/C/481/D/481.121

Or the tox report could be wrong. Hard to imagine, I know. However, it does happen and there have been mistakes in labs done before.

MOO

 

[Only4Justice]

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[Confusion]

We know from the released Tox Report, that Sandra Bland had marijuana in her system. That could explain whatever behavior from Bland when that Trooper BE asked when he went to the passenger side window and again when he went to the driver side window. If she had just smoked marijuana, that would explain why she did want to put out her cig. She would have been masking the scent of the marijuana. Its possible whiff of the marijuana smell and thus asked her politely to put out her cigarette. If he smelled the masked marijuana, he wouldn't have told her what he was doing or why. Maybe that's why she got all agitated when she did over the cig.
Texas Laws & Penalties
Offense Penalty Incarceration Max. Fine
Possession
2 oz or less Misdemeanor 180 days $ 2,000 http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2
Texas Stat. Code § 481.121 http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/HS/6/C/481/D/481.121

Again, I find it hard to believe that he would just charge her with kicking him if he also believed she was on some kind of illegal drug. I also believe he would have mentioned it to at least one of the other officers there and the superior he talked to. If he thought she was under the influence, he should have done a field sobriety test and/or requested that she be tested at the station. None of those things have reportedly happened.

MOO

 

[Lilibet]

With all due respect, if he had not arrested her on this ridicules trumped up charge, she would have been on her way to her first day of work at her new job on that Monday morning. Instead she was rotting in jail with no hope of getting out. I think it's a safe bet that his arresting her was the cause of her suicide.

So yes, it is his fault. If he had done his job the way he should have, he would have just handed her the warning and walked back to his car, the same way he did with his previous stop. He was finished. He had no right to detain her after that.

As for charges. For one, he could be brought up on federal civil rights charges, but he won't be. Instead there will be a civil trial and the police department will make a large payout to her family. Thats what ALWAYS happens. The police in this country love to violate people civil rights, and then pay out billions of dollars in settlements. Because what the hell, it's not their money. It's just tax payer's money.

Contributing factor.

BBM

I have followed at least 5 cases on WS that ended in suicide. The reasons for an individual's choice to commit suicide are complex and unique to that person. How they perceive and process their situation is what causes them to choose suicide. It is absolutely unfair, inappropriate and cruel to blame anyone or say that they were a contributing factor.

I will say JMO, but online research would help to educate about the causes of suicide.

 

[Only4Justice]

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[arkansasmimi]

Register of Actions
Case No. 02-F-00151
The State of Texas vs. SANDRA BLAND §
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Case Type: Felony Magistrations
Date Filed: 07/10/2015
Location: JP2
Party Information
Attorneys
Defendant BLAND, SANDRA ANNETTE Female Black
6' 0", 175 lbs
HOUSTON, TX 77077

State The State of Texas
Hempstead, TX 77445
Charge Information
Charges: BLAND, SANDRA ANNETTE Statute Level Date
1. ASSAULT PUBLIC SERVANT 22.01(b)(1) PC Third Degree Felony 07/10/2015
Events & Orders of the Court
http://odysseypa.tylerhost.net/Waller/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=345456



Case Number Citation Number Defendant Info Filed/Location Type/Status Charge(s)
02-F-00151
BLAND, SANDRA ANNETTE
07/10/2015
JP2
Felony Magistrations
Transferred to District Court http://odysseypa.tylerhost.net/wall...0,320,330,340,120,220,230&NodeDesc=All+Courts
ASSAULT PUBLIC SERVANT


Jail record
Booking #: 32038 Department of Public Safety
Facility: Booked: 07/10/2015 Released: 07/13/2015
Name BLAND, SANDRA ANNETTE Desc Black Female 6' 175 lbs
Alias BLAND, SANDRA Hair Black
SO # 026981 Eyes Brown
Address HOUSTON, TX 77077
Front View Mugshot
Right Profile Mugshot
Warrant # Charge Issuing Auth Offense Date Bond/Type Fine/Crt Costs Disposition
Warrantless/On-View ASSAULT PUBLIC SERVANT DISTRICT 07/10/2015
5,000.00
Surety Bond
Other
http://odysseypa.tylerhost.net/Waller/JailingDetail.aspx?JailingID=45428