Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #2

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  • #401
I Think they should make him stand outside all night long.
This poor little girl!
I'm sorry but where was MOM!

EXactly. “Mom” isn’t off the hook in this Sleuthers eyes.
Woman know what goes on in their households and when people are up and about. Not buying it. At all.

Speculation and opinion only.
 
  • #402
I have complete faith in LE on this case. They will find her, and they will arrest him. jmo
 
  • #403
http://texas.drivinguniversity.com/red-light-cameras/red-light-camera-locations/richardson-texas/

I know(and have some tickets to prove) they are used just a hop north in Plano still.

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True. But if he's headed north to the boonies, he's likely staying on Central Expwy as he passes through Plano (no lights red or green, on that hwy).

From WM's home it's 29 miles to Melissa, about 34 miles to Anna. That time of night a driver could reach Melissa via Central in abt 25 min or less (not speeding), and Anna, about 5 minutes later. But that's as far as he could go, time-wise, and leaving little to no time left for hiding her body.

Here's the rough lineup of cities along Central, listing north to south:


Anna

Melissa

McKinney

Allen

Plano

Richardson

Dallas

(ETA: I'm not getting the strong sense he went that far, personally--just seems like there's not enough time)
 
  • #404
*The nearest access to the tollway is by driving 7.5 miles INTO the heart of North Dallas (a 14-15 min drive just to get to the major LBJ Fwy and DNTollway intersection), with its locales and shopping centers that have no shortage of surveillance cameras. IF the driver was trying to take her body to a remote location, JMO, I don't see the sense of traveling that route or getting on the tollway. If the driver wanted immediate access to a major fast route out of town, without cameras and toll tag photos, and with possibility of dumping or burying her in a less-populated region, he'd take Central Expressway (75) north, or (a bit further away) LBJ southeast. This is why I personally don't lean towards the theory that the tollway gave the investigators that tight timeframe for the car being gone from the house. I suppose his actions didn't necessarily have to be that well thought out. But I think they were, to a point. He had several hours to think and plan that night (we don't yet know exactly when she died if she died, but it was 12 hours from school pickup to Acura driving away at 4 am). I believe he is also quite smart, and smart enough to avoid ..."


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I snipped a bit, thank you. I agree. And I'm behind today. I know I initially stated that I thought it was the toll tag that put the car out at that time but after reading your opinion, I believe you are right. ". I hadn't consulted a map and I know you have first hand knowledge of the area.
 
  • #405
I'm freaking out a little. Can they find her already?! I wish he would just tell what happened. :(

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  • #406
PoirotryInMotion said:
*The nearest access to the tollway is by driving 7.5 miles INTO the heart of North Dallas (a 14-15 min drive just to get to the major LBJ Fwy and DNTollway intersection), with its locales and shopping centers that have no shortage of surveillance cameras. IF the driver was trying to take her body to a remote location, JMO, I don't see the sense of traveling that route or getting on the tollway. If the driver wanted immediate access to a major fast route out of town, without cameras and toll tag photos, and with possibility of dumping or burying her in a less-populated region, he'd take Central Expressway (75) north, or (a bit further away) LBJ southeast. This is why I personally don't lean towards the theory that the tollway gave the investigators that tight timeframe for the car being gone from the house. I suppose his actions didn't necessarily have to be that well thought out. But I think they were, to a point. He had several hours to think and plan that night (we don't yet know exactly when she died if she died, but it was 12 hours from school pickup to Acura driving away at 4 am). I believe he is also quite smart, and smart enough to avoid ..."


(PS. Sorry for the post length, have to leave shortly.)

I snipped a bit, thank you. I agree. And I'm behind today. I know I initially stated that I thought it was the toll tag that put the car out at that time but after reading your opinion, I believe you are right. ". I hadn't consulted a map and I know you have first hand knowledge of the area.

Thx for your input, Cyber Sleuth. And no worries...it didn't sink in with me either until I pulled out the map.
 
  • #407
I'm freaking out a little. Can they find her already?! I wish he would just tell what happened. :(

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They are cowards and one of them will crack and tell where the child can be found. I have complete faith in Texas LE. The know how to handle their business. This will be resolved soon.

All opinion and speculation.
 
  • #408
The car 'whizzing' by seems odd, if in fact he was trying to sneak a body somewhere. I'd be following all traffic laws at that time.

It makes sense if she was ill or injured and he needed help, but why not call 911? Or wake the nurse, his wife? If he is going to race to a hospital, he is not worried about anything he may have done, and could call 911 or wake up his wife.

It also might make sense he was driving fast if he was stressed, out of control emotionally or drunk/high?
I think it was so he could leave and get back before his wife woke up. He quite possibly hadn't thought about his story yet and was just acting frantically.

Again, I can't get past my theory that his wife didn't know. If the wife knew - no time table whatsoever. Plenty of time to think up a perfect scenario/alibi. No need to say anything about 3am, the milk, the tree, laundry.

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  • #409
I have complete faith in LE on this case. They will find her, and they will arrest him. jmo
I bet the police (and others too) already know but all they need now is to be able to gather enough evidence for the case to be seen as being 'Beyond a Reasonable Doubt' to secure a guilty conviction.

I've seen cases (had a similar one involving a child supposedly kidnapped through a window from her bedroom at night not too far from me) where the police as well as everyone else just 'knew' it was the mother and stepfather but couldn't prove it.

Apparently the police cased and watched the family going ons for well over a year to be able to not only gather the evidence needed for a conviction but to also be able to find the child's body...

It was well worth it...
 
  • #410
Sherin Mathews, the 3-year-old Richardson, Texas, girl whose father told police he made her stand outside in the middle of the night for not drinking her milk, has been missing for almost a week. A vigil is scheduled to be held this weekend for the missing girl near her family home.

The*vigil for Sherin*will take place close to a tree where her father said he last saw her after sending her outside. The event will begin at 7 p.m. and end at 9 p.m. on Saturday, October 14, in the 900 block of Sunningdale in Richardson, according to*CBS DFW.

https://www.**************/4553414/...y-put-outside-at-3-a-m-for-not-drinking-milk/

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  • #411
I think it was so he could leave and get back before his wife woke up. He quite possibly hadn't thought about his story yet and was just acting frantically.

Again, I can't get past my theory that his wife didn't know. If the wife knew - no time table whatsoever. Plenty of time to think up a perfect scenario/alibi. No need to say anything about 3am, the milk, the tree, laundry.

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Yeah, I'm reserving my judgment of her. I don't know the layout of the house, and most of my friends take turns with the other parent for early wake up with kids. I have one friend who gets up at 10 am on Saturdays, while her husband is kindly on the other end of the house with their twin babies, taking care of everything.

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  • #412
i think it was so he could leave and get back before his wife woke up. he quite possibly hadn't thought about his story yet and was just acting frantically.

Again, i can't get past my theory that his wife didn't know. If the wife knew - no time table whatsoever. Plenty of time to think up a perfect scenario/alibi. No need to say anything about 3am, the milk, the tree, laundry.

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this 100%
 
  • #413
Yeah, I'm reserving my judgment of her. I don't know the layout of the house, and most of my friends take turns with the other parent for early wake up with kids. I have one friend who gets up at 10 am on Saturdays, while her husband is kindly on the other end of the house with their twin babies, taking care of everything.

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Nice! I wonder what she has to do to get that deal! :blowkiss:
 
  • #414
The morning Sherin Mathews disappeared

3 a.m. Saturday:*Sherin Mathews, 3, is sent outside to an alley as punishment for not drinking her milk, her father, Wesley Mathews told police.*

3:15 a.m.:*Wesley Mathews goes to check on Sherin but does not see her, according to the account he gave police. He told police that while he waited for it to get lighter outside to continue searching, or for her to return went inside to wait, he did laundry.

4 to 5 a.m.:*The Mathews' 2013 maroon Acura MDX SUV is gone from their Richardson home.

8 a.m.:*Sherin is reported missing to police.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...ld-sent-alley-familys-vehicle-left-police-say
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Need clarification here.

Was itseen driving by once or twice, I think I'm getting it was seen once, so it left during that time? So the time line could be disposal time anytime between 4 to 8? Or was it back home by 5?

So, " zipping by"...why so fast? Could she have died on the way to the hospital??

The impression I have is that there was a witness that says the car was not home during that time frame, which is why they are looking for video -likely to see who was driving and if there were noticable passengers. Just my guess because I haven't seen or heard anything saying why they believe the car wasn't home during this time period.

Would love to know why LE is saying that public vid surveillance may have a diff time stamp? To ME this means they are still guessing and anything outside of that time would be very helpful?
 
  • #415
Nice! I wonder what she has to do to get that deal! :blowkiss:

Ha!! I was thinking the same!! How do I sign up for that?! I do agree that mom may have legitimately been asleep - she could have just gotten off a 12 hour shift and been exhausted. Do we know where she is a nurse? A friend of mine is a nurse at Parkland and always has crazy shifts where she ends up working 15 hours straight and comes home and is OUT. I know there have been nights where my husband has left the house and gone to his brothers after I’m in bed and I don’t even realize it. However, if my toddler even so much as breathes louder than normal, I am up in an instant to check on him.. also, without knowing the layout of the house we don’t know how close the garage, etc is to where she was sleeping.
 
  • #416
I don't do anything for the deal. But my dh did get up every other night time awaking with the baby. He also takes the baby in the morning so I can sleep in. It's more common in my generation I think.

As a parent of an internationally adopted child what I pray comes from this is the absolute need for more education in the adoption processs. We see stories repeatedly of internationally adopted children murdered or abused once home. It takes a lot more than wanting to "save" a child and give them a nice posh life in the us. So many adoptive parents have good intentions and then find themselves completely blindsided to what it is like to parent a child with a past. And it is not always easy to admit you need help and then actually being able to find the resources. I've seen the stories countless times in adoption circles. It's heartbreaking.

I don't find it surprising that she's drinking a protein drink at 3 am. One of my children was having a hard time gaining weight and was falling behind his own curve. We were instructed to feed him in the middle of the night and many times during the day. We did not need to wake him as he was always up anyway. It's very stressful to be in that situation especially when toddlers are notoriously picky eaters.

I pray she is found soon.
 
  • #417
The impression I have is that there was a witness that says the car was not home during that time frame, which is why they are looking for video -likely to see who was driving and if there were noticable passengers. Just my guess because I haven't seen or heard anything saying why they believe the car wasn't home during this time period.

Would love to know why LE is saying that public vid surveillance may have a diff time stamp? To ME this means they are still guessing and anything outside of that time would be very helpful?

I think the time stamp comment was exactly what it sounded like - that people don't always make sure the date and time on their electronics are correct. My home answering machine (yes, we still have one!) says that every incoming message is from Sunday at 12:01pm. I have no idea how to change that and I really don't care. So if LE asked me to check messages - and they were looking for messages from a Thursday - I would have to disregard my machine telling me the call came on Sunday.

That was muddy, but maybe you have some electronics with wonky time and date too.

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  • #418
Ha!! I was thinking the same!! How do I sign up for that?! I do agree that mom may have legitimately been asleep - she could have just gotten off a 12 hour shift and been exhausted. Do we know where she is a nurse? A friend of mine is a nurse at Parkland and always has crazy shifts where she ends up working 15 hours straight and comes home and is OUT. I know there have been nights where my husband has left the house and gone to his brothers after I’m in bed and I don’t even realize it. However, if my toddler even so much as breathes louder than normal, I am up in an instant to check on him.. also, without knowing the layout of the house we don’t know how close the garage, etc is to where she was sleeping.
I looked at the county gis info - the house is a 3/2 with 2300+ square feet, and one story.

A lot of houses have that split plan where the master is off by itself. If that's the case here, it would be quite easy to sleep through all the commotion. Especially if they used a baby monitor and the husband turned it off.

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  • #419
SW? You mean SM? Mom is also SM and I thought they no doubt want to make sure she wasn't there too, in the car

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Yes my apologies for the typos Little SM was the person I meant to indicate
 
  • #420
I think the time stamp comment was exactly what it sounded like - that people don't always make sure the date and time on their electronics are correct. My home answering machine (yes, we still have one!) says that every incoming message is from Sunday at 12:01pm. I have no idea how to change that and I really don't care. So if LE asked me to check messages - and they were looking for messages from a Thursday - I would have to disregard my machine telling me the call came on Sunday.

That was muddy, but maybe you have some electronics with wonky time and date too.

jmopinion of course

It very well could be what you are saying. People often don't change things for daylight savings or after power outages etc. But, I do feel like it was likely a human and not a camera that gave them this time frame since they are so keen on getting camera footage.

That said, it could easily be that they have one or two shots of their vehicle, or it's plate and want better/more footage of the driver and possible occupants.

I think the fact that LE is asking so little from people means they have a lot, though TBH, with all of the racial things going on in the USA right now, I can't help but think if she was a 3 year old white blonde girl that there would be constant coverage and updates from LE etc. I really hope I feel that way because of previous cases of missing people and the ones who seem to be front page news over the ones who aren't.

Praying for Sherin and her sister who must be absolutely terrified and confused to have woke up and be removed from family and friends and likely questioned by strangers and so on.
 
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