Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #2

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  • #421
True. But if he's headed north to the boonies, he's likely staying on Central Expwy as he passes through Plano (no lights red or green, on that hwy).

From WM's home it's 29 miles to Melissa, about 34 miles to Anna. That time of night a driver could reach Melissa via Central in abt 25 min or less (not speeding), and Anna, about 5 minutes later. But that's as far as he could go, time-wise, and leaving little to no time left for hiding her body.

Here's the rough lineup of cities along Central, listing north to south:


Anna

Melissa

McKinney

Allen

Plano

Richardson

Dallas

(ETA: I'm not getting the strong sense he went that far, personally--just seems like there's not enough time)

What about lakes and rivers?
 
  • #422
At this point the evidence is building that WM did something to make Sherin disappear. I hope mom's attorney is encouraging her to speak to him in the hopes that he'll break and tell where Sherin is. I get that her attorney is looking out for her interests but if Sherin was as loved as we're hearing then mom and other family are doing what they can to get WM to talk.
 
  • #423
It very well could be what you are saying. People often don't change things for daylight savings or after power outages etc. But, I do feel like it was likely a human and not a camera that gave them this time frame since they are so keen on getting camera footage.

That said, it could easily be that they have one or two shots of their vehicle, or it's plate and want better/more footage of the driver and possible occupants.

I think the fact that LE is asking so little from people means they have a lot, though TBH, with all of the racial things going on in the USA right now, I can't help but think if she was a 3 year old white blonde girl that there would be constant coverage and updates from LE etc. I really hope I feel that way because of previous cases of missing people and the ones who seem to be front page news over the ones who aren't.

Praying for Sherin and her sister who must be absolutely terrified and confused to have woke up and be removed from family and friends and likely questioned by strangers and so on.

I think the reason they are asking for for other video is so they can piece together where the SUV was headed.They might get some notion of who was driving, but I think more productive to determine a site for their next search.
 
  • #424
True. But if he's headed north to the boonies, he's likely staying on Central Expwy as he passes through Plano (no lights red or green, on that hwy).

From WM's home it's 29 miles to Melissa, about 34 miles to Anna. That time of night a driver could reach Melissa via Central in abt 25 min or less (not speeding), and Anna, about 5 minutes later. But that's as far as he could go, time-wise, and leaving little to no time left for hiding her body.

Here's the rough lineup of cities along Central, listing north to south:


Anna

Melissa

McKinney

Allen

Plano

Richardson

Dallas

(ETA: I'm not getting the strong sense he went that far, personally--just seems like there's not enough time)

I agree that he wouldn't have tried to go to another city. There would have been more LE around to pull him over and more people around to see what he was doing. It makes more sense that he headed to some place that was isolated with no one around.
 
  • #425
It's hard to believe they wouldn't have their own home security system of some sort, based on the looks of their nice house in a moderately high crime area. I also think that time gap 3am-8am (if indeed correct) was possibly scrapping their own home security system, and wiping phones/laptops/home PC's very carefully.

Just curious, have they mentioned what the fathers employment entails?
 
  • #426
What about lakes and rivers?

It's a possibility; White Rock Lake is a straight shoot south via Audelia, abt 7-8 miles (less than 20 minutes). It is well-trafficked with cyclists and joggers, though, so maybe not quite as good a hiding place as some lesser-known, smaller patches of water and woods. No rivers that I'm aware of, but creeks and drainage swales are also present in this part of Dallas on up to Richardson.
 
  • #427
Anna and Melissa are possibilities to me. Not much there.
 
  • #428
Just curious, have they mentioned what the fathers employment entails?

There has been no confirmation on what he did for a living, at all. We don't know what he did.
 
  • #429
I only saw rumor on twitter of dads job.
 
  • #430
It's a possibility; White Rock Lake is a straight shoot south via Audelia, abt 7-8 miles (less than 20 minutes). It is well-trafficked with cyclists and joggers, though, so maybe not quite as good a hiding place as some lesser-known, smaller patches of water and woods. No rivers that I'm aware of, but creeks and drainage swales are also present in this part of Dallas on up to Richardson.

I'm thinking White Rock would be risky. There is a consistent police presence there after some incidents. Though he may not know that. It is the closest and most logical one. Ray Hubbard is another one, but an hour to get there, hide a body ( :( ) and get back would be tight. Lewisville, Mountain Creek, Grapevine, and Lavon are near also, but not near enough for an hour to be enough time round trip. The trinity river could be reached with 25-30 minutes, but I don't know if the access to it is easy.
 
  • #431
I wonder if when LE was in the house with their search warrant if they also had a warrant to bug the house. Apparently they're both still living there. Their conversations certainly would be interesting.
 
  • #432
I believe, but could be wrong, the original statement was "whizzing" by as opposed to zipping. Not sure exactly what could be derived from that one wo:escape:rd but thought I'd throw that in.


When I posted the link, I misquoted and said "zooming." Right below, I posted that the correct phrase was "whizzing."

Not sure what's faster, a zoom or a whiz? 😂
 
  • #433
I've known a lot of nurses in my life with three in the family alone and something most have in common (not all!) is that they work shifts and therefore often struggle to sleep and end up taking something to help.
I have been wondering since I heard the mom is a nurse, if maybe she didn't hear anything because she takes a sleep aid of some sort to help her get a good sleep. If she didn't have to work Saturday and knew she could sleep in she may have taken something even more sedating. This is 100% speculation, but does explain why she may not have heard anything and why the police are saying she is not (at this time) a suspect. It could also be a reason why they took the other daughter from her custody and not just from her husband. If she regularly uses a medication whether OTC or prescription and slept through this terrible event, it could be seen as her being unfit to have the other child in her care until they have her properly assessed for possible drug abuse. Just throwing this out there because I haven't seen anyone say anything like this. Also, if she is in fact a nurse (can't recall if this is rumour or was verified), this would mean she does have access to some medications and such, it could be possible that Sherin did wake at 3am and was given a milk with a medication in it to help her sleep and when she fussed someone snapped, or the medication worked too well in her tiny body and the parents panicked and got rid of the evidence. I hate to look at things so grimly, but I really haven't seen anyone speculate much on the possible access to drugs that the mom may have had if she is, in fact, a nurse.
It seems so strange to me that we have been stalking this case for a week and really have very very few real facts about who this family is or what they do. Aside from Sherin being adopted, their home address, their church, and their vehicles, we don't have anything about them really confirmed or denied. I really hope and pray that we can stop speculating and learn more about not only who the family is, but of course where Sherin is and how their family dynamics lead to her being missing.
 
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I would think if they'd rehomed her they'd have fessed up to that by now. Losing their other daughter and currently being viewed with suspicion by the world of having killed her has to be far worse than the embarrassment of finding her a new adoptive home. I'd think the family who took her in would also have seen her on the news by now and contacted authorities rather than being seen as involved in an abduction or something.

Unless they don't know who took her. These internet groups for re-homing are actually pretty sketchy, at best, and can take a bad turn. He may have tried to contact them already and the number has been burnt.

He may have thought, and I'm going back to OP re; comments on the Indian culture, and adoption, and thought about looking into missing children in India. Missing children are very common in India, and it's very common for them not to be found. Since adoption is so different in the Indian culture, rare, and rarer still for a female child, with health issues, I was just thinking, that, given that difference in the U.S. and India, he may not have realized that there would be this kind of response, here, over a missing child. I'm just going on OP's thoughts on culture. I've not read anything regarding if they immigrated to the U.S., or if they are natural born citizens.

A lack of training of police, child welfare and protection officials, poor coordination between agencies in different states, coupled with massive public apathy is hampering the battle to locate India’s “lost generation”, say campaigners.

Missing children are so common in India that notices printed in classified sections of India’s daily newspapers are buried alongside tender notices and job vacancies, with blurred black and white photos alongside a description and a contact number.

“No one - not the police or the public - even try to inquire about these children. They have become part of normality, maybe because they are poor. So we don’t question who they are, why they are there and who they are with.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-generation-of-missing-children-idUSKBN17F12A
 
  • #436
It's a possibility; White Rock Lake is a straight shoot south via Audelia, abt 7-8 miles (less than 20 minutes). It is well-trafficked with cyclists and joggers, though, so maybe not quite as good a hiding place as some lesser-known, smaller patches of water and woods. No rivers that I'm aware of, but creeks and drainage swales are also present in this part of Dallas on up to Richardson.

Anna and Melissa are possibilities to me. Not much there.

(Marking, sounds like good ideas)
 
  • #437
About that "tip" that caused LE to search the cemetery:

On Friday afternoon, police searched part of Restland Cemetery in north Dallas after a tip from Nicolette Snyder. The Frisco mother said she’s been in contact with psychics and mediums, one of whom led her to the location.

“She said, ‘You’re going to see a tree with a little bit of flags on it. I feel like it’s more toward a creek,’ and lo and behold, there’s a creek!” said Snyder.

She says a retired police dog belonging to her friend led her to a blanket and gloves. Officers determined the items came from a nearby homeless camp.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/10/13/police-focusing-on-suv-missing-richardson-girl/

Seriously? I know LE has to follow up on leads even if they're spurious but it makes me so angry when people call in these kinds of tips. What a waste of LE's time and energy.
 
  • #438
About that "tip" that caused LE to search the cemetery:



http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/10/13/police-focusing-on-suv-missing-richardson-girl/

Seriously? I know LE has to follow up on leads even if they're spurious but it makes me so angry when people call in these kinds of tips. What a waste of LE's time and energy.
It seems like this is happening more and more often lately. Every missing person case I see on social media has comments from or recommending psychics.
 
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  • #440
I think this is inaccurate. I beleive Ms. Snyder was searching where she was based on information seen by a medium. Someone else called in tip to police that led them to search the cemetery as well. Quite honestly it is probably a logical place to search and relatively close proximity to the residence. When there are no valid legitimate leads, all areas that are potential spots should be searched. At least they are out there searching and not just waiting for something to happen.
 
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