Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #3

[Grouchymom]

The point I was attempting to make was that the trial date is in the near future and due to the continuance it has not yet been disposed of. I agree it is what I have heard referred to as a “chicken” accident. The injuries or complaints are all necks or backs. It also appears that and affidavit included seems to indicate he indeed did have a current DL at the time of the accident. However, just having an impending lawsuit can indeed create panic in those being sued. I think it is relevant as part of the state of mind and finances. I believe anyone staring down the barrel of a lawsuit frivolous or otherwise has reason to be concerned as to the possible ramifications.

 

[KariKae]

Regarding the older child in DHS custody...Can police interview her without the parents permission?

 

[Grouchymom]

Regarding the older child in DHS custody...Can police interview her without the parents permission?

as long as she is in DHS/DSS/DCFS custody the dept has physical and legal custody and therefore can grant or deny LE the opportunity to interview her.

which is 1 reason I personally do not think the Judge will give custody to family members at Monday’s hearing. It will surprise me if he does.

 

[OutlookLookout]

Was Sherin's mom named a POI? Why is it okay to sleuth her and discuss it here?

There was discussion back and forth about whether she was an RN or LVN. I figure I would clarify the matter since it is a public record (you can verify any professional license in any state).
By no means did I mean to violate TOS. If I did, apologies, I can delete.
Also, FWIW, IMO they both know more than they've told. And I hope little Sherin is found safe, though the odds imo are slim.

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[Gigglingtoes]

Well I think it's just the mother trying to get custody back since the father isn't allowed to be near his child.
I really can't imagine what the poor mother is going thru, waking up to one child missing and then having the other child removed. I'd be devastated.
And if the number of reporters were the basis for whether or not you could properly parent then they would be removing kids from celebrities left and right.

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Celebrities have security. Celebrities have gated homes. Private schools....Celebrities are used to this media attention and know how to keep their children safe from all the people who are going to be approaching this Mother and maybe her child for questions.

Im just keeping it real.

 

[TupeloMz]

RIck Roberts dedicated his whole 3 hour radio show to Sherin. I thought that was pretty awesome. He implored the father to tell where she was and implored anyone with information to call police. He is on a Dallas / Fort Worth radio station. Probably helped tremendously to get the word out that she is missing.

Hope little Sherin is found soon.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I'll try to translate some of the main points in this video, the language is Malayalam which is my first language and the same language that would be spoken by Wesley and Sini. This guy, Fr A V Thomas according to this source is someone who lives close by and is from the same community. He says that Sini is an LVN who is currently not working - he specifically says that maybe she's studying to be an RN but is not one at the moment. He also says that they don't believe a word Sini is saying about being asleep throughout this incident and not being awake till 8am - he suspects something may have happened from Sini's end and there is a cover up by the couple possibly. She lawyered up soon after and therefore couldn't be freely questioned by LE. He said that some of their friends have been bringing them food allowing the couple to stay holed up at home without having to venture out or face the media. Interesting he claims that Sherin went to a regular school and no one spotted anything abnormal with her (developmentally) - perhaps she was a bit quiet for a 3 year old but nothing out of the ordinary. More importantly, he claims that the couple have been having domestic issues for a while and since Sherin's adoption - apparently the church members and their friends from the community may know of this but aren't coming forward to say this and of course, CPS are aware of issues in the family - he didn't say what exactly though

I wonder if you could get verified as a translator here. This was very informative and I thank you for taking the time to do this.

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[PoirotryInMotion]

"Unlicensed, incompetent or reckless."

I wish that OR were not in there. Could mean so many things.

The one thing that comes to mind immediately has to do with impairment. Perhaps not alcohol as there are field sobriety tests and generally drunks get tested (or can be charged if they refuse to be field tested). But it does raise a question in my mind about drugs. An addiction can run into expense, which can lead to . . . whatever.

But also raises in my mind whether Wesley was impaired in some way at 3 AM (or whenever something actually did occur) and wanted time to "come down" before bringing LE into the house.

Juist thinking out loud.

Well, "reckless" would fit (in insurance terms) if he hit her from behind - whether or not he made an attempt to avoid her. Insurance companies generally hold the driver who rear-ends the one in front of him as liable. (Unfortunately there are accident scams out there based on this knowledge.)

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

The point I was attempting to make was that the trial date is in the near future and due to the continuance it has not yet been disposed of. I agree it is what I have heard referred to as a “chicken” accident. The injuries or complaints are all necks or backs. It also appears that and affidavit included seems to indicate he indeed did have a current DL at the time of the accident. However, just having an impending lawsuit can indeed create panic in those being sued. I think it is relevant as part of the state of mind and finances. I believe anyone staring down the barrel of a lawsuit frivolous or otherwise has reason to be concerned as to the possible ramifications.

Excellent post, thanks.



(And I just have to know, reading under your moniker...did your kids verify you as a Grouchymom?)

 

[flyngrls]

She might work from home.

Likely the dads IT job is at that hospital! I worked in IT for a hospital system and had a hospital issued laptop and phone in my house.


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[Deleted member 158085]

My interpretation of this question isn't "who saw Sherin last" it is "Who saw Sherin BEFORE this alleged event?" As in, did she attend all week? Did a babysitter or nanny see her? What about grandparents or people at the park? Neighbourhood kids? Basically, I feel that the question is "Do we know Sherin was even ALIVE after the previous Sunday when she was seen in church?" Maybe my interpretation is wrong, but when I saw Maria answer this, I assumed she was answering in the same context I am thinking. If for example, Sherin didn't go to school all week and no one can verify they saw her throughout the week maybe she went missing after church on the previous Sunday, a full 5-6 days earlier. Or if she didn't attend school on Friday that gives from Thursday evening after school until they reported her missing. So, if she did go to school Friday and everything was normal and she was picked up at her regular time was she seen after that by family, friends, church members, neighbours, maybe a delivery guy for dinner or whatever after that time.

The police at this point and according to what Maria Guerrero said in that last video, are going on the timeline given to them by the family, (or were, that may have changed if they have these other details), and that could also be a lie. Sherin may have went missing right after school on Friday, or right after church the Sunday before, imagine if they had a full week before calling LE?

I would love to know what is on that Costco receipt and more importantly if either child was with whoever made the purchases. I think that receipt was from the Friday (would have to verify), the timestamp on the receipt could be pretty telling but also the store footage, if it was after school and both parents were shopping and had only one child with them, that doesn't look good at all if it wasn't Sherin.

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A school has posted asking for prayer for Sherin and stated that she does go to that school. Can I post that here? <br />
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[Deleted member 158085]

he wont lead them anywhere!

Ah, but what if someone he trusts wears a wire. They are ok with him being out for several reasons.

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[MarisaS1985]

I saw someone post upthread asking if we are now allowed to sleuth Sini or not and I honestly have no clue. This is the first case I have been active with and while I have read the terms of service etc I feel like there is a fine line between sleuthing and not, in this case, because she was there, whether asleep or not. I THINK most people have been respectful of her in their posts and aren't trying to say she is a suspect or POI or anything, but it is hard to not discuss the facts surrounding Sherin without knowing her family dynamics, which obviously include her mom. Up until MSM began discussing Sini in the last 24 hours or so in greater detail she really wasn't mentioned much at all. So I am not sure if it is "sleuthing" when we are just sharing facts that are available everywhere and could be very relevant to where Sherin is and why? I guess I am sorta assuming "sleuthing" is when we actively dig up information from reputable sources to find information, but I don't see that as whats happening the last day or so because you cannot read or watch any of the updates without them mentioning Sini. As in, I haven't looked for lawsuits or criminal records or anything else on the mother, my searches have been for "Sherin Mathews updates" and looking into WM. If I am completely mistaken please please please let me know because I don't want to continue posting things about her if its against the TOS even if it does seem relevant to the case. I hope this makes sense.
As to the lawsuit, I know I did post about that, and I do apologize, it is difficult to say that WM may have legal and financial issues etc without bringing Sini into it, esp when she is a co-defendant in that case.
I guess my question for this specific case as far as "sleuthing" goes would be, if MSM is bringing it up or the police are speaking about it is that acceptable to discuss here?

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Was Sherin's mom named a POI? Why is it okay to sleuth her and discuss it here?

I think we're allowed to discuss her actions, words, behavior as reported in mainstream media. We still have to treat her as a victim, though.

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[Deleted member 158085]

The rules regarding victims are here:

Websleuths is a victim friendly forum. Attacking or bashing a victim is not allowed. Discussing victim behavior, good or bad is fine, but do so in a civil and constructive way, and only when such behavior is relevant to the case.

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them. Posting their personal information, including names, addresses, and background data -- even if it is public -- is not allowed. That does not mean, however, that statements made by family members and other third parties cannot come into discussion as the facts of the case are reported in the media.*

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[georgiajean]

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A school has posted asking for prayer for Sherin and stated that she does go to that school. Can I post that here? <br />
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I feel this is pretty fundamental to creating a potential timeline here......

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Because the school posted publicly their support for Sherin, we had talked about it on thread 1 or 2. So posting it here is okay, as far as I know. But we just don't know when she went to preschool. They have classes Tues-Friday, and families can go 2, 3, or 4 days a week. And they have extended hours before and after school. I think I had figured out the latest she could have been there on a Friday was 5 pm.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_fid=730&share_type=t&share_pid=13686136

A school has posted asking for prayer for Sherin and stated that she does go to that school. Can I post that here? <br />
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AnaPisces - do you remember the name of the school?

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[rsd1200]

Just wondering if maybe WM did place Sherin under a tree as he said he did as punishment, but it was simply a very different tree...
It would make his reference to a tree real as far as the story goes, however, it would be a half-truth in that he placed her under a tree, but not THAT tree as he said he had.

His story is so weird and random that I can't help but think that it is going to turn out to be fairly true, with adjustments like which tree and stuff. I can't imagine someone being killed over milk or pediasure or whatever, but I've also sat in courtrooms where people were pleading guilty to stabbing their own family members over 5 dollars, I've met some of the "worse" people you could imagine when it comes to heinous crimes and the truth is that most of them, even when they are sitting behind bars, really are some of the nicest people you would ever meet, and that's what makes all of these scenarios so confusing.

I keep seeing people asking on the MSM live streams "have they checked the water?" and I believe it was Maria Guererro who said that WRL is NOT in the search area (forgive me if I am wrong on who said that), but for whatever reason, I honestly don't feel like she is in the water. I think that tree is significant to where she is, and the coyotes may be significant to what condition she may be found in

I am really hating MOO and thoughts on this case today...

I think that the tree is significant too. I think that the coyotes may be significant in that it is a theory he could give as to what had happened to her when he went back outside. He may have heard about coyotes in the area,thought it would be a good theory that one or two had drug the child away, but didn't know that they rarely ever attack humans (nor realized that an attack would have probably woke the entire neighborhood).

 

[MarisaS1985]

The rules regarding victims are here:

Websleuths is a victim friendly forum. Attacking or bashing a victim is not allowed. Discussing victim behavior, good or bad is fine, but do so in a civil and constructive way, and only when such behavior is relevant to the case.

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them. Posting their personal information, including names, addresses, and background data -- even if it is public -- is not allowed. That does not mean, however, that statements made by family members and other third parties cannot come into discussion as the facts of the case are reported in the media.*

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I THINK the highlighted portion is what has me questioning if I am okay or not because above that it says personal information, background data etc -even if public- is not allowed, but then the stuff we discussed today was for the most part, all reported in the media, I do think one thing may have been "sleuthed" and that would be her work status, but then again, that was in two different media sources and the person was looking to see which was correct or fact checking... I guess since Mods haven't come on and removed things we have been good.

 

[MarisaS1985]

I know it is naive for me to think "she and her husband both said she was asleep and therefore she was" but unless there is proof to the contrary I really do feel badly for Sini, I just can't imagine waking up to find my one child missing, my husband being arrested for a felony, my other child being taken and then having my home flipped upside down and inside out and traipsed through by who knows how many different people... Part of me actually hopes she WAS awake so that this extreme invasion into Sini's life would feel more justified to her, but if she really was asleep as she says, then what a world to wake up to I simply cannot imagine, and then to add to it all, she can't even go and ask WM what happened and demand he tell her where Sherin is because he legally can't have contact with her... though, if I was in her shoes, that would probably be best for his safety and my freedom...