Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #5 *Arrest*

[onlyjamielynn]

She has weekly visits and is involved in advocating for her move out of a foster home to being with relatives. I can imagine that this alone would be overwhelming. But then there is work, facing up to short-term and long-term plans for where to live, how to pay the bills, what to say to the daughter, and how to even get her head around what has happened.

The attorney's statement lists what the prior cooperation has been, and it's pretty extensive.

I think it’s embellished. It states no more if you drill it down that what LE has said. He’s just trying to make it sound like more.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Oh my gosh , waiting is difficult ! My imperfect impatient side of my personality is screaming for answers

Me too! The other side of me, the rational one, that knows it takes time to build an unshakable case is getting tired of fighting lol.

 

[Margo/Mom]

I would not read too much into, the lawyers couldn't even be bothered to spell Sherin's NAME correctly.

OK--I believe her name appears as many as 4 times, misspelled once? Looks like a typo to me.

 

[blue22]

She has weekly visits and is involved in advocating for her move out of a foster home to being with relatives. I can imagine that this alone would be overwhelming. But then there is work, facing up to short-term and long-term plans for where to live, how to pay the bills, what to say to the daughter, and how to even get her head around what has happened.

The attorney's statement lists what the prior cooperation has been, and it's pretty extensive.

Their statement about her cooperation is NOT what LE is saying. And they have no reason for alternative facts like lawyers paid by someone.

 

[bluesneakers]

Their statement about her cooperation is NOT what LE is saying. And they have no reason for alternative facts like lawyers paid by someone.

How do you know they have no reasons to twist the story a little? LE might be playing their own game.

 

[jjenny]

How do you know they have no reasons to twist the story a little? LE might be playing their own game.

What game? If she were fully cooperating, why would LE risk alienating her by making false claims about it? I don't know of any case where LE did that.

 

[blue22]

How do you know they have no reasons to twist the story a little? LE might be playing their own game.

Because that would be stupid and counterproductive of them. Publicly claiming she is not cooperating while she actually is, would only guarantee she would stop. It makes absolutely no sense. JMO.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

She has weekly visits and is involved in advocating for her move out of a foster home to being with relatives. I can imagine that this alone would be overwhelming. But then there is work, facing up to short-term and long-term plans for where to live, how to pay the bills, what to say to the daughter, and how to even get her head around what has happened.

The attorney's statement lists what the prior cooperation has been, and it's pretty extensive.

I don't think that's extensive at all. Logically, since her husband's story has changed, LE must now have new questions for her. If she cared at all about justice for her daughter, she'd talk to LE again. It's clear that she doesn't care about justice for Sherin, which makes me wonder how much she cared about Sherin at all.

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[MzOpinion8d]

He didn't try to kill himself when he was out on bond, did he? What makes them think he'll try it now?

Being incarcerated for murder, kidnapping, or a sexual offense increases the risk of suicide, statistically speaking.

There are a number of factors involved in deciding to place an inmate on suicide watch.

In the jail in which I work, we ask screening questions like this:

Is this the first time you've ever been in jail?

Have you ever attempted suicide? If so, when?

Do you currently have any thoughts of suicide? If so, do you have a plan?

Do your current charges include murder, kidnapping or a sexual offense?

Do you have feelings of hopelessness or helplessness at this time?

Do you feel like harming yourself or anyone else?

Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness?

Have you ever been hospitalized for psychiatric reasons?

Have any relatives or close friends ever attempted/completed suicide?

These aren't all of the questions, but those are all included in both the Corrections intake screening and the medical intake screening.

Being incarcerated for the first time, a high profile crime, a crime committed by someone well known in the community, and kidnapping/murder/sex offense charges increase the risk of suicide.

Jails are one of the highest risk places for suicide, because of being the first place someone is incarcerated and also where they often receive bad news about their cases/sentences. By the time the get to prison, the risk is lower because usually they know what they're facing by that point.

This is all just generalized info, but WM may have specifically stated he was suicidal, or the screening questions may have indicated the need for suicide watch (assuming he's on suicide watch). It's almost 100% guaranteed he's in Administrative Segregation at this point, due to the fact that this is a well publicized crime and it's a crime against a child. A beautiful, darling, precious child, whom I think we all wish we could lovingly cradle in our arms, smelling her sweet baby smell, protecting her from all evil. [emoji174]

 

[MarisaS1985]

Why do so many people insist on trying to make the father into some kind of chivalrous hero? He admitted she died in his presence! He is facing life in prison. Why would anyone voluntarily admit to killing a child that, by all accounts, he loved? And why would anyone voluntarily spend the rest of his life in prison if anyone else had killed that beloved child? It makes no sense to me.

Ask yourself what you would do if your spouse killed your child. Would you let them walk free and care for your other child!? While you went to prison for the rest of your days?!

And let's be real, prison for a person who has hurt a child is a lot more than a made up routine... it's living in fear of being killed every single day, every day he is in there, before and after the trial. It's worrying about both CO's and inmates beating him, shanking him, raping him, torturing him and so on. IF he is lucky, he will always be in a prison with protective custody, this is where they tend to keep inmates with these types of charges as it protects them from other inmates, BUT many of these people are still fathers etc and while they have a charge that requires the extra "watch" it doesn't make them exempt from attacking each other... If Wesley is protecting someone else he will have wished he had the death penalty and the protection of death row in a few years...
I did speculate the other day that perhaps the OS (older sister) unintentionally did something to Sherin that could have caused her death, given the size difference and the way kids can rough house and so on it could have happened... I feel like ONLY in that case would WM be protecting someone else, and I know that's just my opinion and a huge stretch, however we have seen over the years (thankfully, infrequently) kids causing the death of other kids and parents covering it up... Again this is JMO and I am NOT saying the OS had anything to do with this, just suggesting that IF a parent would be willing to take on the prison system his only motivator would likely be to protect his child and not another adult... again JMO

 

[bluesneakers]

What game? If she were fully cooperating, why would LE risk alienating her by making false claims about it? I don't know of any case where LE did that.

Maybe they are trying to get more out of her but she's got no more to give. Maybe they're hoping she confesses to something she never did. LE has been known to do this - it happens all the time.

 

[Margo/Mom]

Their statement about her cooperation is NOT what LE is saying. And they have no reason for alternative facts like lawyers paid by someone.

I don't know that there is a hard and fast definition of "cooperation." To LE it would seem to indicate willing to be questioned without legal counsel.

 

[Karinna]

How do you know they have no reasons to twist the story a little? LE might be playing their own game.

Agree. And how many that have cooperated with LE in some of these horrendous cases against children turned out to be the perpetrator of the crime or involved in it.

 

[MarisaS1985]

Being incarcerated for murder, kidnapping, or a sexual offense increases the risk of suicide, statistically speaking.

There are a number of factors involved in deciding to place an inmate on suicide watch.

In the jail in which I work, we ask screening questions like this:

Is this the first time you've ever been in jail?

Have you ever attempted suicide? If so, when?

Do you currently have any thoughts of suicide? If so, do you have a plan?

Do your current charges include murder, kidnapping or a sexual offense?

Do you have feelings of hopelessness or helplessness at this time?

Do you feel like harming yourself or anyone else?

Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness?

Have you ever been hospitalized for psychiatric reasons?

Have any relatives or close friends ever attempted/completed suicide?

These aren't all of the questions, but those are all included in both the Corrections intake screening and the medical intake screening.

Being incarcerated for the first time, a high profile crime, a crime committed by someone well known in the community, and kidnapping/murder/sex offense charges increase the risk of suicide.

Jails are one of the highest risk places for suicide, because of being the first place someone is incarcerated and also where they often receive bad news about their cases/sentences. By the time the get to prison, the risk is lower because usually they know what they're facing by that point.

This is all just generalized info, but WM may have specifically stated he was suicidal, or the screening questions may have indicated the need for suicide watch (assuming he's on suicide watch). It's almost 100% guaranteed he's in Administrative Segregation at this point, due to the fact that this is a well publicized crime and it's a crime against a child. A beautiful, darling, precious child, whom I think we all wish we could lovingly cradle in our arms, smelling her sweet baby smell, protecting her from all evil. [emoji174]

"A spokeswoman for the jail said he underwent a mental health evaluation. His answers “raised red flags.” Combined with the high-profile nature of his case, she says a decision was made to place him on suicide watch."

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/10/25/father-deceased-richardson-child-suicide-watch/

 

[bluesneakers]

Because that would be stupid and counterproductive of them. Publicly claiming she is not cooperating while she actually is, would only guarantee she would stop. It makes absolutely no sense. JMO.

I think they might be doing it to pressure her into talking to them again. It's intimidating, don't you think, when you've been interviewed about your dead child and the police want to keep questioning you, and then they say things in public to implicate you? Maybe they're hoping she comes back so they can question her one more time.

I believe I'm following TOS here - afaik she is still considered a victim. But maybe I'm wrong and she's now a POI/suspect.

 

[Karinna]

Maybe they are trying to get more out of her but she's got no more to give. Maybe they're hoping she confesses to something she never did. LE has been known to do this - it happens all the time.

Yep, it's called the Reid technique.

 

[Karinna]

I think they might be doing it to pressure her into talking to them again. It's intimidating, don't you think, when you've been interviewed about your dead child and the police want to keep questioning you, and then they say things in public to implicate you? Maybe they're hoping she comes back so they can question her one more time.

I believe I'm following TOS here - afaik she is still considered a victim. But maybe I'm wrong and she's now a POI/suspect.

Yes SM is still a victim as far as i'm aware. The moderator just posted about that earlier. Unless something has changed?

 

[bluesneakers]

Yep, it's called the Reid technique.

I know this has to be wrong but my first thought was "Spencer Reid?"

 

[blue22]

I don't know that there is a hard and fast definition of "cooperation." To LE it would seem to indicate willing to be questioned without legal counsel.

According to lawyers being paid to repair her poor public image.

Look, I am not one to never question LE. I've worked with local LE in child abuse situations and I know they play games. I'm not naive. But IMO this is just a grab to repair the image of a woman who to the public...made no effort to find her child, did nothing to help the investigation, conveniently slept through her child being killed, and walked into court like she was paying a traffic fine. Her public image image is in tatters and this statement reflects the attempt to repair that. (And to deflect while the investigation digs deeper.)

**I'm not saying people here view her that way. Locally that's how she is seen.

 

[MarisaS1985]

I think it’s embellished. It states no more if you drill it down that what LE has said. He’s just trying to make it sound like more.

From my experience as a VICTIM I was interviewed several times over a short amount of time and the SHORTEST interview was 14 hours of questioning, with no food or water offered, in a small room with two chairs and a desk and a camera aimed at me. I was the victim, and it was clearly the same room they used for all interrogations. If Sini was with LE for even two or three "interviews" and they all lasted 8 or so hours, I can easily understand the extreme exhaustion and the mentality that she has better things to focus on, like coming up with a plan for her living arrangements, for her daughters living arrangements, her job, how much time can she take off work, will work want her back, will she get her things back from LE or have to come up with more money for that, is WM spending a small fortune or has he drained their accounts on bond and legal fees and so on... Can you imagine having you child in foster care and your other one dead and calling friends and family up and saying "yeah they found her body, it looks like my husband did it, would you mind taking my other child to raise possibly indefinitely?" I mean yes that's what family is for, but the entire family is grieving, it's asking someone to clear out a room, create a home for this child that meets the standards of CPS and to have CPS coming in and out whenever they please. Sini has a TON on her mind right now... if she has said everything she knows and LE is still wanting to interview her more and she has nothing to change or add, why would she go in and put herself through it all AGAIN?

ETA
Plus, she still has the civil suit against her for the car crash and I believe there is a court date for that soon. I think that the insurance company is representing them based on the reason for the continuance for the trial, but this is another financial burden she doesn't need AND it even if WM wasn't at fault for it (no charges were pressed), it would be easy at this point to see her blaming him for this extra stress as well...