Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #8 *Arrests*

[Karinna]

This is where I think CPS has responsibility. If there was a finding of abuse, it shouldn't have required that they know with certainty who was abusing and who was going along. That's a toxic household and both kids should have been protected.

I totally agree. That is their job, to protect vulnerable at risk children.

 

[agilbe]

I really hate to bash CPS because it is the Mathews who are the terrible ones here but I'm not fully understanding perhaps....Did I read that correctly that CPS was called and after an initial investigation abuse was founded, but they did not know which parent, so both children just remained in the home and case closed?! Is that normal CPS procedure or did that case worker really drop the ball?

Sadly yes. My understanding is that because they could not clearly figure out who the abuser was they were left there.

 

[Karinna]

Seriously! How, HOW, could they have left that child, both those children, in that home?

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I guess as we know it does happen that these poor little ones are placed at even further risk by leaving them with their abusers, and it's just dreadful.

 

[Karinna]

Sadly yes. My understanding is that because they could not clearly figure out who the abuser was they were left there.

Oh wow, that's unreal.

 

[citigirl]

I am just so angry I can barely think of words to write. Just a travesty.

 

[MarisaS1985]

I really hate to bash CPS because it is the Mathews who are the terrible ones here but I'm not fully understanding perhaps....Did I read that correctly that CPS was called and after an initial investigation abuse was founded, but they did not know which parent, so both children just remained in the home and case closed?! Is that normal CPS procedure or did that case worker really drop the ball?

I am BEYOND furious on this one!! CPS KNEW that extreme abuse was happening and didn't remove the kids! What on earth? I am also furious with the adoption agency. They did 4 reports on Sherin and all were allegedly done on time. Do they not notice a kid always with a broken bone? Do they not speak to the Doctors? Do they not speak with CPS to see if at any point there was a complaint or issue? I feel like CPS and the adoption workers said something along the lines of "they live in a good neighbourhood, go to church and have good jobs, no way would they hurt this kid, despite what her injuries suggest" and left it at that, like a professional courtesy since Sini was a pediatric nurse...

Everyone on here likely knows I have played devils advocate for Sini, but broken bones, on multiple occasions, over at least 15 months, simply cannot be overlooked by a parent. If Sini was abused by WM, which I still won't rule out, it is not relevant as Sini had opportunity when the Dr said that she had to report this and Sini complained that it would ruin their weekend plans. She was reported today to have brought Sherin in without WM, she had opportunity to say her husband was abusive, if he was.

I can't help but wonder if Sherin was the only one being abused, or if other daughter was also being abused. Did they adopt Sherin simply to have a "punching bag" to protect the other child from whomever the abuser is? Were both kids abused and we just haven't heard that part yet? Were both parents equal opportunity child abusers?

IMHO CPS is very much negligent in this case because they knew that LARGE bones were being broken in an abusive way and they failed to remove the kids. They could have removed the kids and continued to investigate. They could have removed the kids and had the parents go to counselling, parenting classes, anger management classes, ways to cope with a stubborn child support groups and so on. CPS chose to not make the family go through any of the hoops they would have if this was a family that didn't have an education or lived in a poor neighbourhood.

All JMO MOO

 

[MarisaS1985]

I hope the state doesn't give the surviving daughter to family members. She deserves a healthy new start on life. Her bio parents are child abusers and they didn't get that from nowhere imo!

Oldest daughter has already been placed with Sini's brother, wife and her parents.

I am sure they are being closely monitored, then again, I would have been certain they would have removed the kids for multiple broken bones and a Dr saying they were a result of abuse soo...

JMO

 

[agilbe]

Will the judge have an answer at the next court date? If so and with all the information that came out today, I wonder how she will rule??

 

[MarisaS1985]

At least WM's lawyers think he is a good father... SMH Trying to remind myself tonight that everyone has the right to a lawyer of their choosing and to a fair trial.

[video=twitter;935998985818591232]https://twitter.com/Maria_NBC5/status/935998985818591232[/video]

 

[Margo/Mom]

Normally i think its a full leg cast from the top of the leg to the ankle. So Sherin would of been too young to walk on crutches as an adult would have to do, and she would imagine have been in a wheelchair. A fractured femur would take weeks to heal before the cast can be removed.

Apparently she was hospitalized at some point--not sure for how long, or which injuries.

 

[JazzTune]

Even when I was posting constantly that there had to be evil in that home, I was hoping so badly I would be proved wrong.

No one wants to think that a small child could be so horribly abused, especially at the hands of adults who went out of their way, ( even going out of their country! ) to bring her into their home.

Then to compound it all, she was left in that home by CPS! Everyone failed that child.

For cause of death, they might as well just add all those names to the death certificate too. If just one person had intervened, she would be alive now.

Her blood is on all their hands. How do any of them sleep at night?!

That poor baby girl!

There really was horrible evil in that home...

 

[MarisaS1985]

Even when I was posting constantly that there had to be evil in that home, I was hoping so badly I would be proved wrong.

No one wants to think that a small child could be so horribly abused, especially at the hands of adults who went out of their way, ( even going out of their country! ) to bring her into their home.

Then to compound it all, she was left in that home by CPS! Everyone failed that child.

For cause of death, they might as well just add all those names to the death certificate too. If just one person had intervened, she would be alive now.

Her blood is on all their hands. How do any of them sleep at night?!

That poor baby girl!

There really was horrible evil in that home...

100% Agree. IMO the pediatric abuse Dr was the only one who tried to intervene... I HONESTLY thought because of her being in the first year of an adoption that those progress reports would have spared Sherin any abuse, especially abuse that could be SEEN.

JMO

 

[ReadySet]

If Sherin had been removed from the home at some point though, would we necessarily know about it? Not sure how that works.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

I am BEYOND furious on this one!! CPS KNEW that extreme abuse was happening and didn't remove the kids! What on earth? I am also furious with the adoption agency. They did 4 reports on Sherin and all were allegedly done on time. Do they not notice a kid always with a broken bone? Do they not speak to the Doctors? Do they not speak with CPS to see if at any point there was a complaint or issue? I feel like CPS and the adoption workers said something along the lines of "they live in a good neighbourhood, go to church and have good jobs, no way would they hurt this kid, despite what her injuries suggest" and left it at that, like a professional courtesy since Sini was a pediatric nurse...

Everyone on here likely knows I have played devils advocate for Sini, but broken bones, on multiple occasions, over at least 15 months, simply cannot be overlooked by a parent. If Sini was abused by WM, which I still won't rule out, it is not relevant as Sini had opportunity when the Dr said that she had to report this and Sini complained that it would ruin their weekend plans. She was reported today to have brought Sherin in without WM, she had opportunity to say her husband was abusive, if he was.

I can't help but wonder if Sherin was the only one being abused, or if other daughter was also being abused. Did they adopt Sherin simply to have a "punching bag" to protect the other child from whomever the abuser is? Were both kids abused and we just haven't heard that part yet? Were both parents equal opportunity child abusers?

IMHO CPS is very much negligent in this case because they knew that LARGE bones were being broken in an abusive way and they failed to remove the kids. They could have removed the kids and continued to investigate. They could have removed the kids and had the parents go to counselling, parenting classes, anger management classes, ways to cope with a stubborn child support groups and so on. CPS chose to not make the family go through any of the hoops they would have if this was a family that didn't have an education or lived in a poor neighbourhood.

All JMO MOO

Wow! I'm with you! Why didn't CPS do something? Especially when a doctor is the one reporting possible abuse? I've no doubt people will lose their jobs to save CPS face and I hope they do. It won't bring Sherin back but Lord I hope it shakes them up and helps future children. Evan that will probably only last until things die down. You make a good point about the adoption workers. It's actually the adoption system. You have to jump through ropes and pass ever possible check before adoption. Then it is simply self reporting. Every country has different requirements but they all need to do background checks and CPS checks the first few years. Self reporting and even periodic interviews is a joke. Sherin would be alive if things were different. Sorry, I'm upset because with all I have said, it still wouldn't have helped because CPS never followed through and reports alone wouldn't have meant anything.

 

[Rocco]

Maria's report. Horrific! Broken bones, her pediatrician (a child abuse pediatrician) spoke and was the one who contacted CPS. This is a live report about court proceedings. Sini and Wesley were both there. Unbelievable! Still live at 8:35 p.m.
https://www.facebook.com/MariaGuerr...255513683905/1062232650586185/?type=2&theater

The pediatrician apparently also testified that in addition to the broken arm and leg bones, Sherin also had broken ribs. The questions regarding 'did Sherin vomit that night and did you wash her clothes' makes me wonder if she wasn't beaten and died of internal injuries. Wesley telling police that he was holding Sherin and she became cold and stiff adds to my suspicion. He then supposedly woke up Sini and told her something terrible had happened. I wonder if the translation could be: "You beat her too hard this time and she just died"

 

[MarisaS1985]

Wow! I'm with you! Why didn't CPS do something? Especially when a doctor is the one reporting possible abuse? I've no doubt people will lose their jobs to save CPS face and I hope they do. It won't bring Sherin back but Lord I hope it shakes them up and helps future children. Evan that will probably only last until things die down. You make a good point about the adoption workers. It's actually the adoption system. You have to jump through ropes and pass ever possible check before adoption. Then it is simply self reporting. Every country has different requirements but they all need to do background checks and CPS checks the first few years. Self reporting and even periodic interviews is a joke. Sherin would be alive if things were different. Sorry, I'm upset because with all I have said, it still wouldn't have helped because CPS never followed through and reports alone wouldn't have meant anything.

I am not sure how the adoption reports were done with this specific adoption, but I do recall that a report was written by a worker as a part of the last follow up (4 in the first year) and it included "feeding issues" and said that the worker had recommended some different ideas to the Mathews to try and prevent this from becoming a problem. This to my knowledge, was reported through the adoption agency to the officials in India.

I am utterly SHOCKED that they don't require medical records of some sort even for self reporting. It's a huge process to apply for adoption and the adoptive parents gather everything they need and then have it approved and so on. I would have thought things like on time vaccinations, recommended therapies, eating issues, multiple fractured bones and abuse allegations, would have all came up as a medical type of follow up for the process. Clearly, if that isn't required, it needs to be.

I am sure that they could have got a record from a doctor that wasn't aware of all of the breaks and fractures and such, but with how often she had to have been injured (with healing time) i can't imagine her normal pediatrician who was monitoring her general health and possible diagnosis upon arrival to the USA, not being aware that there were at least signs of injuries, plus known medications for pain and all of that.

I would really hope that you couldn't walk into a brand new peds office and ask for an adoption paper to be filled out for that time frame.

I have a gf in North Carolina and her boyfriends children landed in their home when the mom was found to be neglecting the kids, anyway, when she brought them to a new pediatrician the only treatment they could receive was for illness such as ear infections, and of course getting their new baselines for weight and such, and she had to sign a dozen forms for each kid (as did their dad) to get their birth records, and previous medical records before they would so much as do a vaccine.

I simply am dumbfounded that this sort of stuff is either not shared between hospital and pediatrician/family doctor, and is seemingly not required by the adoption agency as part of the report. If self-reporting is good enough, then one could theoretically kill their child, or sell their child, and simply "update" online when they are supposed to and the agency could go forever without ever even knowing the child was gone!!

MOO

 

[Subiechik21]

I just went to the Dallas County Jail site to see if by chance Sini had been able to bond out this afternoon. She hadn’t but I noticed something odd on her info


It is the remarks under hold info not bond info. At first I thought it was a note about her bond reduction but upon closer inspection I amnot so sure. I would think that if it was about her bond reduction it would be in the area for comments on bond not hold info. Does this mean some LE has asked for a hold if she bonds out so they can add charges perhaps? Hmmmm. Would love to see someone with LE experience that can decrypt this.

JMHO

Sorry if this has already been answered, but I think H/F ELM means Hold for electronic monitoring.

 

[MarisaS1985]

If Sherin had been removed from the home at some point though, would we necessarily know about it? Not sure how that works.

I think it would have come up in today's proceedings. I also think they would have said something along the lines of you already lost your child(ren) once, and went through classes and we returned them and now one is dead, we cannot and will not risk that again. Basically, I think CPS would have used that as further proof that rehabilitation would be fruitless as it had already failed and therefore reunification efforts would just continue to waste time, money and worst of all, put the life of the other child at risk.

Obviously, we don't know for certain, but IMO they would have used that as a jumping off point.

MOO

 

[georgiajean]

The part that chilled me was how both SM and WM were asked if they felt that Sherin was "damaged goods." I don't think they hurt their other daughter. They did not view Sherin as important or worthy or even human, and they were beyond upset/furious that Sherin had special needs. They were, in my opinion, never parents for Sherin. Just monsters and abusers. Horrible.

 

[MarisaS1985]

The part that chilled me was how both SM and WM were asked if they felt that Sherin was "damaged goods." I don't think they hurt their other daughter. They did not view Sherin as important or worthy or even human, and they were beyond upset/furious that Sherin had special needs. They were, in my opinion, never parents for Sherin. Just monsters and abusers. Horrible.

Agree

Thanks for transcribing earlier! It was super helpful as I was not in the viewing region!! Grouchymom was awesome and hooked me up but by the time I had complained they were only on for about 25 mins. So thank you thank you thank you!!!