TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

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Link?

And I'd be pretty traumatized to find my instructor murdered even if it wasn't overkill.

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I will go look fir the post. It was in the beginning threads regarding a local who heard about the injuries from a camper.
 
  • #162
I think that is a great, hard hitting summary of the personality traits that the perpetrator could have. I also like the part about mellowing with age, but still retaining the core personality. Then something brings it to the surface again.

Though the area is growing and has seen a certain number of transplants, it still has alot of "from here" long term residents. Maybe the police could interview retired principals / teachers with that profile in mind? I wonder what class reunions are scheduled. Likewise, retired police might remember a local young woman with those traits from a minor arrest.

I also think it could be beneficial to combine the personality traits with the perpetrator's walk. She does not walk or move like a former athlete. Rather, she seems clumsy and possibly slightly "pigeon toed".

So, maybe combine those traits with possible physical traits and you get a profile of type A personality girl with a confrontational streak and who was also not part of the "athlete / cheer leader" crowd- and maybe had an innate dislike of girls from this group? Years later, a "cool female athlete" type sets her off... .

Agree. This female will be the big and bad mamma that know one has dared to mess with for years.

But they may be unknown to the town if they recently moved there within the last 5 years or so. Jmo.
 
  • #163
Agree. This female will be the big and bad mamma that know one has dared to mess with for years.

But they may be unknown to the town if they recently moved there within the last 5 years or so. Jmo.

I love your posts. My favorite was the honey bun one :)
 
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I heard it was horrific and have continued to hear that. The service was also closed casket for a reason. JMO
 
  • #166
I heard it was horrific and have continued to hear that. The service was also closed casket for a reason. JMO

That's the one thing that sells me on the personal target motive. Someone or some ppl really want Missy disfigured by their anger. So sad.
 
  • #167
I heard it was horrific and have continued to hear that. The service was also closed casket for a reason. JMO

Someone mentioned the possibly of a gun used ( in their opinion) as possibly being " a worst kept secret" in this case. IMO the extent of the wounds inflicted on the victim might be another worst kept secret. Based on multiple mentions by locals and closed casket as you mentioned.


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  • #168
I'm somewhere between 4 and 5, perhaps, but not exactly either.

Male or female? Male
Motive? Relationship-related stuff
But more of an obsessive-possessive thing, with the fuel being "frustration of desire" rather than the strict limits of it arising from a lover's quarrel.
IOW - I can see it being any of the following
1 - a man she never was involved with, who wanted her but frustrated over feelings he could never get her
2 - a lover frustrated by the thought he held a special place that he did not (for example, she is having an affair with Mr A that is still ongoing but he becomes enraged on finding out she is also having an affair with Mr B)
3 - a lover who she broke up with, frustrated by the fact that he still wanted her but she didn't want him anymore
4 - a flirt partner she decided not to pursue, and he can't handle "no"


No way, Jose! Family affair......
 
  • #169
Ezra was able to send me a screenshot of BB discussing the weather with others on FB. WH did respond and said "Hope you make it". I am awaiting FB screen shots from Mississippi. It will be interesting to see who replied and what was communicated.
Thank you Ezrah for sending that.

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That's the one thing that sells me on the personal target motive. Someone or some ppl really want Missy disfigured by their anger. So sad.

Agreed! A random burglar would not be capable of this type of disfigurement.


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  • #171
Ezra was able to send me a screenshot of BB discussing the weather with others on FB. WH did respond and said "Hope you make it". I am awaiting FB screen shots from Mississippi. It will be interesting to see who replied and what was communicated.
Thank you Ezrah for sending that.

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You know one of the things that I did miss out on since I got into this about 3 weeks after the murder is all of the various SM stuff that was still available early. I don't know if any of it would change my view of this crime but I do believe that there may have been things that would be of great interest to me but since many people would have been looking based on a specific angle or suspect they may not have captured those screenshots because the interactions would be benign and even inconsequential and could even just be a Like.
 
  • #172
You know one of the things that I did miss out on since I got into this about 3 weeks after the murder is all of the various SM stuff that was still available early. I don't know if any of it would change my view of this crime but I do believe that there may have been things that would be of great interest to me but since many people would have been looking based on a specific angle or suspect they may not have captured those screenshots because the interactions would be benign and even inconsequential and could even just be a Like.
I'm wondering if MB' s alleged affairs could have been retaliatory.
Ie: Hey, I can play that game too and
now you'll get to see how it feels.

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  • #173
I heard it was horrific and have continued to hear that. The service was also closed casket for a reason. JMO


There are those on here who refuse to even
look at the most plausible reason for the brutality in this case. Instead, some people on here want to blame the murder of Missy on break-in gone wrong.

Obviously, local cops have not even alluded to the horrific supposed "truth" (most of this supposed "truth" comes from comments in the local community.) The "truth" portrayed by local people is that the disfigurement was so intense that it called for closed casket.
 
  • #174
I'm wondering if MB' s alleged affairs could have been retaliatory.
Ie: Hey, I can play that game too and
now you'll get to see how it feels.

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That is a possibility. It would once again change my perception of BB were it to be true. However, I don't know how common it would be for a woman to seek a revenge affair with a married man, as is indicated in both cases with MB. I say that because had MB been cheated on she would know and understand the pain being on the receiving end and I wonder why she would inflict that pain on some other woman that has done her no harm. A single male, or a separated male, maybe, but it would radically change my view of Missy were it to be the case of a revenge affair with a married man.
 
  • #175
There are those on here who refuse to even
look at the most plausible reason for the brutality in this case. Instead, some people on here want to blame the murder of Missy on break-in gone wrong.

Obviously, local cops have not even alluded to the horrific supposed "truth" (most of this supposed "truth" comes from comments in the local community.) The "truth" portrayed by local people is that the disfigurement was so intense that it called for closed casket.

A burglar would not have specifically targeted Miss's chest (in addition to her head). That is a very unnatural area to target (it's the most easily defended - if she was in a condition to defend) and makes not sense - if she was not in a position to defend.

I've ruled out burglar and significantly lowered the possibility of a male attacker based on that information. If it was someone that wanted her gone for access to BB, they would just have just delivered a fatal blow to the head. Not to mention his recent prolonged illness. I just think the odds are against that angle.

Which rules out 4 or 5 of the options presented.

For those with an accomplice theory (I think it's possible, but there must be a good reason and strong motive for the accomplice). They'll be in as much trouble and as many consequences as the lead. And an accomplice doubles or triples the probability of eventually getting caught.

The time elapsed (8 months) now somewhat becomes a clue on it's own.
 
  • #176
A burglar would not have specifically targeted Miss's chest (in addition to her head). That is a very unnatural area to target (it's the most easily defended - if she was in a condition to defend) and makes not sense - if she was not in a position to defend.

I've ruled out burglar and significantly lowered the possibility of a male attacker based on that information. If it was someone that wanted her gone for access to BB, they would just have just delivered a fatal blow to the head. Not to mention his recent prolonged illness. I just think the odds are against that angle.

Which rules out 4 or 5 of the options presented.

For those with an accomplice theory (I think it's possible, but there must be a good reason and strong motive for the accomplice). They'll be in as much trouble and as many consequences as the lead. And an accomplice doubles or triples the probability of eventually getting caught.

The time elapsed (8 months) now somewhat becomes a clue on it's own
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BBM
That is my line of thinking as well. Especially the time dimension of how far out we are from the murder. If LE had gotten anywhere near the accomplice (even if the accomplice heard their name come up and not necessarily in the sense of a suspect) and, like you say, the accomplice didn't have as strong a motive they would likely break.

It is why it has been my opinion that if there was an accomplice it had to be a spouse. For those thinking there is family involvement it would have to be a very close sibling or possibly a lover. Quite literally it would have to be someone that each of them would trust with their very lives considering this is capital murder with the death penalty a possibility. But in that scenario I think that were LE to get near the accomplice the killer would step forward and take sole responsibility to protect the other.

I can't see how there were actually two people that participated in the act of murdering Missy - both at the very place in the church where she was murdered - so I don't see the other scenario where one is just as likely as the other to give the other one up.
 
  • #177
There are those on here who refuse to even
look at the most plausible reason for the brutality in this case. Instead, some people on here want to blame the murder of Missy on break-in gone wrong.

Obviously, local cops have not even alluded to the horrific supposed "truth" (most of this supposed "truth" comes from comments in the local community.) The "truth" portrayed by local people is that the disfigurement was so intense that it called for closed casket.

From past experience, I'll say that "what the locals say" is often wildly inaccurate. The game of Telephone gets out of hand as a friend tells a friend tells a friend, etc.

What the locals say in this case might turn out to be accurate, who knows. But I'll point out that the last word we have from LE is that they lean toward "untargeted hit", and this is from LE who has seen the crime scene.

I continue to be unsure of how rumors are handled on WS. Comments about MB's condition are not from LE or from MSM so it would seem that we can't refer to it? Maybe I misunderstand the TOS.


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  • #178
Agree. This female will be the big and bad mamma that know one has dared to mess with for years.

But they may be unknown to the town if they recently moved there within the last 5 years or so. Jmo.
What if this "bad momma" (If it isn't a man) really isn't a big bad momma, but a lovely looking one beneath all those clothes? And what if "she" isn't from the area?
There's only one person on the SW that hasn't been spoken about ad nauseum. Why is that?

And maybe "she" did have an accomplice? One that has an "airtight alibi"?

Just speculation. Putting it out there. Part of a theory I haven't given much thought to, but I'm thinking.....maybe it needs a look.
Or maybe there are others that have given it a look and I've missed that.

SteveS: I haven't forgotten about "transgressions". I need time to go over all recorded interviews, because I also want to rebutt your rebuttal of my points why a particular person stands out for me.



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  • #179
A burglar would not have specifically targeted Miss's chest (in addition to her head). That is a very unnatural area to target (it's the most easily defended - if she was in a condition to defend) and makes not sense - if she was not in a position to defend.

I've ruled out burglar and significantly lowered the possibility of a male attacker based on that information. If it was someone that wanted her gone for access to BB, they would just have just delivered a fatal blow to the head. Not to mention his recent prolonged illness. I just think the odds are against that angle.

Which rules out 4 or 5 of the options presented.

For those with an accomplice theory (I think it's possible, but there must be a good reason and strong motive for the accomplice). They'll be in as much trouble and as many consequences as the lead. And an accomplice doubles or triples the probability of eventually getting caught.

The time elapsed (8 months) now somewhat becomes a clue on it's own.

As far as the killer targeting MB's chest, I think far too little is known About the crime scene to be able to speak to that. You're assuming that he hit her just where he wanted to hit her. This was possibly a life-or-death struggle. We don't know what fight MB was able to put up. We don't know what injuries were inflicted post-mortem. We just don't know nearly enough to be able to rule out burglary, IMHO.


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  • #180
From past experience, I'll say that "what the locals say" is often wildly inaccurate. The game of Telephone gets out of hand as a friend tells a friend tells a friend, etc.

What the locals say in this case might turn out to be accurate, who knows. But I'll point out that the last word we have from LE is that they lean toward "untargeted hit", and this is from LE who has seen the crime scene.

I continue to be unsure of how rumors are handled on WS. Comments about MB's condition are not from LE or from MSM so it would seem that we can't refer to it? Maybe I misunderstand the TOS.

The other problem with rumors is that we all have the tendency to believe the ones that support our theory and ignore the ones that don't. Confirmation bias.
 
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