TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #38

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  • #141
Thanks for the reference! Also add to that LE using terms like "puncture wounds" rather than "gunshot wounds" over and over.

Sorry y'all, I must have had a blonde moment. But, I also do wonder if everything written in there is true..


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  • #142
Sorry y'all, I must have had a blonde moment. But, I also do wonder if everything written in there is true..


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Fair enough..
 
  • #143
Btw. I respect women trainers.

But most of their clients are women.

So how many male clients did Missy have?

And were these male clients there to become more bonded with females while working out?

One of the students in her early-morning class was the husband of another student, IIRC. They were both there the morning of Missy's murder.

I don't know if there were other men in the class.

jmo
 
  • #144
Sorry y'all, I must have had a blonde moment. But, I also do wonder if everything written in there is true..


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If the source is not someone in LE working on the case I wouldn't put much weight on it. MPD has specifically refrained from releasing the cause of death citing a "strategic advantage" in not doing so. That said, anything is possible - including Nancy Grace getting something right. We'll see.
 
  • #145
Btw. I respect women trainers.

But most of their clients are women.

So how many male clients did Missy have?

And were these male clients there to become more bonded with females while working out?

Judging by MBs CG pics (which are still open) there seemed to be a mixture of both genders in her classes. Also, possible families in attendance. JMO


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  • #146
Imo. A hired killer has to be paid. So wheres the money trail?



Btw. The kid in the Nissan looks young (barely 30 and Caucasian).

So are there any males in Missy class that arrived late or not at all?
I did go thru Missy's facebook friends looking for certain initials according to info read a day or so ago. Age seems to vary.
Not saying this person is fb friends with Missy's but bored and attempting to sleuth.

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  • #147
If either the door to Room 4 in the west hall or the Dutch Doors were closed by SP prior to Missy arriving then we have something rather obvious going on and it wouldn't look like a staged burglary at all. They would have been seen closing them on camera. More to the point it would make everything SP did in the church a complete waste of SP's time. I mean why bother with anything at all when SP could just wait by the door and kill her without any theatrics.

For me, I believe that SP was trying to make it look like a burglary gone wrong and doing anything that would make it not look like a burglary (such as closing doors) would defeat that purpose. If that did happen however I would have to open my search for a POI with the expectation of finding someone that is not particularly bright, not a planner, and someone that should quite easily have been identified long before now because it would have to be someone that was not only known to Missy to have a beef with her but to others as well. Something like a cop with a Wyatt Earp mentality which would make for a pretty decent sized pool of POIs.

As for the rest, there are quite a number of splices that occur in the video, even from the same camera. Every time you notice the picture "shudder" in the video (for some you can only see this for a few frames) that particular camera stopped recording and more than one video was spliced to create the continuity we see. At least two different times you can see "Loading ..." on the bottom left of frames where longer videos (larger file sizes) are being loaded into the software MPD used to splice it together. This happens when SP goes from the west hall to the south hall and the second time I have seen it occurs when SP comes back down the south hall toward the west. I am still working on finding all the splices. It is very likely there is at least one where SP is at the locked door to the left of Room 4 in the west hall because SP stays stationary for long enough for the cameras to stop recording. There is a shudder when SP goes into the room with the dutch doors as well.

Something that people have to keep in mind with these cameras is that if SP were to simply stop moving or make only slight movements they could be standing right near the camera and it will still stop recording. More so, if SP simply took a step and waited a few seconds and then took another step, and so on then SP could have gone around that church and never appear on camera at all. It is very likely that the software for these cameras had what is called an Absence/Presence setting that wasn't enabled. If it were enabled recording would have started or continued regardless of whether or not SP moved so long as they were in range of the camera.

RBBM, there is probably a splice somewhere at the locked door because you do not see the Suspect get the prybar type too out, it just appears with Suspect prying on door. We do see Suspect trying to put it up before walking off. (going from memory so would have to go back and look) Also in the first video released to media, with timestamps. JMHO the Suspect is a little farther back before entering the room next to the locked door. MPD cut some of that out and it is zoomed in because of the removal of timestamp
 
  • #148
If the source is not someone in LE working on the case I wouldn't put much weight on it. MPD has specifically refrained from releasing the cause of death citing a "strategic advantage" in not doing so. That said, anything is possible - including Nancy Grace getting something right. We'll see.

Agreed. Until it comes from MPD directly then I'll believe it...too many FB sleuths that "know" everything.

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  • #149
One of the students in her early-morning class was the husband of another student, IIRC. They were both there the morning of Missy's murder.

I don't know if there were other men in the class.

jmo

Yes, CG is a mixed group...and I know of at least 1 male there that morning, probably more.


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  • #150
Darn 4 pages behind I hope something good happened!
 
  • #151
Agreed. Until it comes from MPD directly then I'll believe it...too many FB sleuths that "know" everything.

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If it's mainstream media it's allowed.


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  • #152
If it's mainstream media it's allowed.


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Trying to find the link of local news story tonight.


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  • #153
Btw. I respect women trainers.

But most of their clients are women.

So how many male clients did Missy have?

And were these male clients there to become more bonded with females while working out?

I did CG for 3 years with both male and female trainers and it's a good mix. It's an intense workout every time, and a true community of people who support each other. I was skeptical until I did it and experienced it first hand. I won't say relationships couldn't form there, but I don't see it being likely unless you spend a lot of QT outside of CG. You're moving so much you barely have time to have a convo.


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  • #154
I can't shake gut feelings I've had all along, but then I read stuff and it makes me question. I don't think the Altima is involved, but then it does seem weird to be completely unrelated.

I feel like anyone can make something out of it by knowing so little information...EX: I don't see ANYTYHING when looking at the Altima pictures...but, if you go looking for something, you're going to find it. JMO, but you can't judge anything by the position of someone's drivers seat...mine is way back and I'm super short. JMO

CONFIRMATION BIAS - learned that term from following Ross Harris Trial. Maddox Kilgore awesome attorney .

con·fir·ma·tion bi·as
noun
the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.

Why I always try my best to keep an open mind. JMHO
 
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http://www.fox4news.com/news/228808414-story

It says that Midlothian police said they recently had a new person of interest but that person was later cleared...pretty sure it's the former LE guy who was turned in by a family member...basically they got nothing.
 
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I had the exact opposite takeaway from that article...

I don't think that because of this article...I just think in general. You don't have that many agencies involved and have no idea. I think they have probable cause, but not enough concrete evidence.


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  • #159
In the swfa longer video, at about the 1:13 time mark, does anyone else wonder about the two vehicles parked in the swfa lot? Why would be there in the middle of the night?
 
  • #160
Thank you for the news link!!


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