TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #38

[arkansasmimi]

Remember how we all were :thinking: when we heard BB stating about MB transforming people, and then learned that was something of the Mission of Creekside Church.

Well this just gave me chills lol.

Creekside has Come as You Are...and verse as their Welcome....

Cowboy Church of Ellis County... MB church....
Western Heritage Church
Come as you are, leave changed!!
Sunday Services are at 8:30am & 10:30am https://www.facebook.com/CowboyChurchofEllisCounty/

I didnt realize when BB said "we aren't cowboys" ... that the Church is an arena
Interesting http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Texas-Connects-Us-The-Cowboy-Church-of-Ellis-County-339982822.html

 

[arkansasmimi]

Jethro,

This afternoon I for some reason this thought popped into my head. There are no restrooms on your Layout except for the Office bathrooms and the ones near the SW entrance that MB came into building through. The ones that have in room 6 are incorrect, as those are double Dutch doors and next to them in a photo is the Ladies who do the cooking. And on their right is the double doors of room 6 and on left is the glass windows in the NW entrance.

*Something I found odd, in DeDee photos, the Exercise Room out side of the SE exit doors. It has a windowed door. Unsure if the Storage room on the NW outside has one or not. Just found that odd.

All those Kids some up front and the East hallway and no bathrooms!.... Then it hit me. That NE corner (next to room 8) and the busted NE doors. That has to be a rest room! There is a room in that one shot of Breakaway room and it looked like a separate room there too maybe a restroom.


From Lifeway Rules of thumb

Preschool rooms should have direct access to a rest room (which can be shared by two preschool rooms).
Where space permits, for the convenience of parents, churches are encouraged to provide a diaper changing table in at least one rest room for each sex.
Handicapped access must comply with codes, usually requiring at least one fixture of each type to be accessible to wheelchairs in each public rest room. http://www.lifeway.com/Article/church-architecture-rules-thumb-space-dimensions

 

[arkansasmimi]

OMG im in the northwest now, having been a life long Texan it has been interesting to see how soft these guys are here and they are so protective of the accused, never seen anything like it

JMHO and no snark intended. But anyone can accuse anyone of anything... Does not make it factual. I could accuse you of doing the murder or hiring someone to do it and you say but I was xx miles away. :thinking: Whats the difference of some accusing BB and his father/stepmother who were also xx miles away. Many names were in SW,not just 1. And it in 2 days it will be 9 months since MB was murdered. MPD has not arrested anyone and they have all of the evidence and info, we do not. So yes, personally I am going to say protective of the accused. And also those not listed in SW too. ALL of them didn't murder MB. So there are may "accused" who are totally innocent of murder. JMHO

ETA, that is the rules we play by if we want to have posting abilities too at WS.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

The blinker thing struck me as being odd, too. The perp is coming out of an empty parking lot and puts his blinker. Plus, he puts it on as he's making the turn. I honestly think, based on the strange car behavior of stopping and starting, lights off, then on, then off, and of course the bizarre behavior in the church, that he/she is a few cards short of a full deck. He/she even walks like a dud. I know he's been elusive for a very long time, but I think the person was mentally slow. JMHO

IF I had seen a person leaving the car and another person entering the driver seat I would think a minor had some sort of driving lessons in the middle of the night, at a large car park, despite storm and heavy rain, get prepared for the awful "event". However I didn't see a change of drivers.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

One more picture to ponder.....as I watched the video again and again, I enlarged it as much as possible and was able to grab this photo. This view was taken before they park and I believe in back of the building. Try and enlarge the photo yourself to look more closely. My feeling hasn't changed, I still see a female driving the car with brown hair, as well as strands of her hair sweeping across her left shoulder, and hair tucked behind her left ear. Further, I see someone behind her in the back seat, almost leaning on the back of the driver's seat so to view where the driver is driving? Or trying to stay hidden. On another interesting note, it appears there is an object on the dashboard but not sure what it is. Any thoughts?

My thoughts are similar to yours.
I wonder why aren't we able to recognize the rims? Are they deliberately blurred? WHY?

 

[KaaBoom]

I know at least one other person was referring to the fact that they believed the license plate had cursive at the top, which apparently is unique to California.

I would make the same argument for that. If you can see the small cursive letters in the state name, then you should be able to read the large numbers and letters in the plate number.

If you stare at the videos and images long enough, you will see whatever you want to see. I think that's what is happening here. Because you guys are seeing things, that I can't see, even full screen on a 27 inch monitor.

 

[dizzychick]

If Brandon hired someone to kill Missy it would fit your scenario.

dont look at him he had Mississippi plates

 

[dizzychick]

JMHO and no snark intended. But anyone can accuse anyone of anything... Does not make it factual. I could accuse you of doing the murder or hiring someone to do it and you say but I was xx miles away. :thinking: Whats the difference of some accusing BB and his father/stepmother who were also xx miles away. Many names were in SW,not just 1. And it in 2 days it will be 9 months since MB was murdered. MPD has not arrested anyone and they have all of the evidence and info, we do not. So yes, personally I am going to say protective of the accused. And also those not listed in SW too. ALL of them didn't murder MB. So there are may "accused" who are totally innocent of murder. JMHO

ETA, that is the rules we play by if we want to have posting abilities too at WS.

I was referring to LE in Washington state being so protective of the accused as in we had a nurse killed and then chopped up and placed in different trash cans around Seattle and still the cops refused to name him until the arrest and still wont show his face ! In Texas they would plaster his name face and address all over MSM LOL this is what I meant by the softies up here in the northwest This nurse killer, her friends knew she was on a date with him and cops tracked him down pretty quick but still wouldnt say who he was. At his arraingment they refused to let the media film him. Weird IMO

 

[Cannonball3804]

this post reminded me of the lawyer I worked for and how he loved it when it was raining cause back then you just let the client be found guilty on speeding tickets and appealed. If it was raining all the cops were working traffic accidents and didnt show up to court so all his clients got their tickets tossed. Wonder if the rain made for additional security for the perp knowing cops were probably pre occupied with the weather and car wrecks.

I've posted here in the past some statistics regarding the rain. Burglaries go way up when it rains. Why? Cops don't like to get wet, so they cut down on patrols when it's raining.

So yes, the rain did make for additional security for the perp.


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[No it's not]

JMO - It looks like it was edited. There's a fairly distinct dark rectangle on the windshield. Take a look from the passenger side all the way over to the middle of the drivers seat and along the dash. I'm not saying or implying that you did it Nin, I'm thinking maybe SWFA degraded the quality of the video/frames before posting it. Paying special attention to limit identification of the license plate and interior of the car.

I enlarged it, brightened it a bit, that's all. -Nin

 

[Inthedetails]

dont look at him he had Mississippi plates

Not necessarily.

My husband and I rent cars for our road trips - at least twice a year if not more often. We never know what state plate the rental cars will have. We've had plates from states all over the country. You can't assume that a rental car from Mississippi has Mississippi plates.

 

[GA_Peach]

Not necessarily.

My husband and I rent cars for our road trips - at least twice a year if not more often. We never know what state plate the rental cars will have. We've had plates from states all over the country. You can't assume that a rental car from Mississippi has Mississippi plates.

BB 's rental car had Mississippi plates. BB told us that practically as soon as he stepped out of his rental car upon arriving back in Midlothian.

If the Altima is tied to MB'S death, which I believe it is, there will be absolutely no way to tie the plates back to the car at SWFA. I can't believe SP would overlook something so obvious and simple as a license plate.

 

[Inthedetails]

BB 's rental car had Mississippi plates. BB told us that practically as soon as he stepped out of his rental car upon arriving back in Midlothian.

Oh! I didn't remember that. Thanks.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I enlarged it, brightened it a bit, that's all. -Nin

What are your thoughts.....do you think SWFA degraded/edited prior to posting?

 

[Dollcat]

BB 's rental car had Mississippi plates. BB told us that practically as soon as he stepped out of his rental car upon arriving back in Midlothian.

If the Altima is tied to MB'S death, which I believe it is, there will be absolutely no way to tie the plates back to the car at SWFA. I can't believe SP would overlook something so obvious and simple as a license plate.

As soon as he stated about the rental car having Mississippi plates, my radar stood straight up. I can't believe anyone who had a close relative, friend and especially SPOUSE/CHILD murdered would say anything like this. I would be so distraught I would have no desire to talk to anyone from media and would have told them as such and to get off my property.

 

[neesaki]

I just saw the news feed at top of page that there's new information on the case. But I can't find it, help?

 

[Inthedetails]

As soon as he stated about the rental car having Mississippi plates, my radar stood straight up. I can't believe anyone who had a close relative, friend and especially SPOUSE/CHILD murdered would say anything like this. I would be so distraught I would have no desire to talk to anyone from media and would have told them as such and to get off my property.

Yes, I agree.

On one hand, I recall myself saying odd things after experiencing a traumatic event. I don't want to hold someone accountable for every utterance they say while in shock.

But on the other hand, it's a very strange detail to notice and all the stranger to comment upon it at that time. Does make me go hmmmm....

 

[Dollcat]

BB 's rental car had Mississippi plates. BB told us that practically as soon as he stepped out of his rental car upon arriving back in Midlothian.

If the Altima is tied to MB'S death, which I believe it is, there will be absolutely no way to tie the plates back to the car at SWFA. I can't believe SP would overlook something so obvious and simple as a license plate.

Here in Texas they have started putting the vehicle color on your title. I first noticed this last year when I bought a new vehicle. I don't recall seeing it on my husband's truck title back in 2015 when we bought it.

Many times in crimes, they just go lift a plate off a car maybe in parking garage, airport parking ( guess somewhere where slot of cars are parked for extended periods of time). Texas used to have the expiration stickers on the rear plate but moved that to the windshield maybe 20 years ago. I recall this because I had one stolen off one of my cars at a car show. Unless LE has a reason to scruntinize the tags, stickers you're good to go. Hence, perhaps another reason for that turn signal usage out of a vacant parking lot at 2 am.

 

[Inthedetails]

Here in Texas they have started putting the vehicle color on your title. I first noticed this last year when I bought a new vehicle. I don't recall seeing it on my husband's truck title back in 2015 when we bought it.

Many times in crimes, they just go lift a plate off a car maybe in parking garage, airport parking ( guess somewhere where slot of cars are parked for extended periods of time). Texas used to have the expiration stickers on the rear plate but moved that to the windshield maybe 20 years ago. I recall this because I had one stolen off one of my cars at a car show. Unless LE has a reason to scruntinize the tags, stickers you're good to go. Hence, perhaps another reason for that turn signal usage out of a vacant parking lot at 2 am.

If the Altima driver switched plates, I wonder where the stolen plates came from. I would imagine that someone would report if their plates were switched/stolen. Maybe they have and we just don't know about it.

jmo

 

[Dollcat]

If the Altima driver switched plates, I wonder where the stolen plates came from. I would imagine that someone would report if their plates were switched/stolen. Maybe they have and we just don't know about it.

jmo

I doubt most people would notice unless it was a personalized tag. I would notice that being changed or missing but a stock generic plate- not so much.