TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #39

[urtxtigress]

That's like when I posted some pics, that night someone busted my house, then I got a alert on my phone that someone was trying to signin to my fb a few seconds after and I checked to see where they signed in at and it gave my wifi address.

 

[Jethro4WS]

My consideration for the affidavit for BB's FB is perhaps BB was informed via FB of relationship(s) of MB and at least KC. I think it's possible someone, maybe even the killer(s), outed some of MB's behaviors to BB. I think it's also possible a PI was involved at some point, and the information was provided by the investigator. It wouldn't have to be a licensed PI - any friend, acquaintance, colleague or family member could follow her. Therefore, information about KC could be included in those messages, MC could have been told, and on and on. Realizing it mimics middle school behavior, but I think it's possible.

My line of thinking is that when KS was on Dr Drew and mentioned a prior infidelity discovery - 15 months before (either when KS was on Dr Drew or Missy's murder, it is unclear) - it was KC. I used to be of the opinion that it was CW from 15 months prior and the affair went underground after discovery and KC was just a rumor but that warrant changed that for me. Of course, I can be wrong about this again.

It wouldn't surprise me that BB learned of KC from MC or even a friend in common. It is entirely possible a PI could have been involved.

 

[Jammyjo2000]

I'm going out on a limb here posting this but after reading the SW for FB and the T#s warrants this popped into my head. What if MB had a couple/several affairs going on at one time and what if the first one was jealous when he found out? Going one step further and wondering if at some point in the past if MB had a affair with a lesbian lover? Maybe not even a relationship but some woman who fancied herself in love with MB. Nothing I've read points to that at all but thinking about the horrible way she was murdered makes one wonder. I realize that's way out there but as strange is the case is who knows. Anythings possible.

 

[Jethro4WS]

If cell was used for calls, internet, etc., at SWFA the cell would be connected to the cell phone tower and a digital footprint of the connection would be left. If a cell was connected to wifi a digital footprint of the connected wifi IP address and the cell phone tower connection would be left.

ETA
If suspect was using a wifi only device such as a tablet, laptop or a phone without cellular service the cell phone tower dump wouldn't provide any information of that device or the usage. If a wifi only device was used a wifi connection would be needed and it would have left digital footprint. However, LE would need to know about that device or connection in order to capture that digital footprint.

With the WIFI connection they would have the MAC address of the device which is globally unique but alas the MAC address can be spoofed.

 

[arkansasmimi]

LE/prosecutor might have sent subpoenas (not warrants, necessarily). Then you have company attorneys handling them and depending on how much was requested/demanded in the subpoenas, it can take several months. I was just wondering about actual warrants giving LE permission to search, seize, etc.that might be under seal.

sorry Catching up so may have been already stated. Then there may have been some Like CW and BB who allowed MPD to extract their cell phones without a SW. BB may very well have let them look at their computers or search home if needed without a SW. JMHO

 

[Dollcat]

When you fill out a records request for various agencies or city or county government there is usually a part about exceptions. Here is an example from the City of Arlington, TX. The Texas statute itself explains all of them (though in legalese).

http://mygovhelp.org/ARLINGTONTX/_cs/AnswerDetail.aspx?inc=19633

There are other documents that would require a court order to protect them. For example, Ellis County doesn't have a Medical Examiner office and autopsy reports would go to the Justice of the Peace that pronounced Missy dead. Those autopsy reports would be part of an inquest by the Justice of the Peace, which is required when a death is the result of a crime. However, because this is a Justice of the Peace those documents are considered Judicial records in Texas and those records are available (not subject to the Open Records exemptions) unless MPD or the District Attorney gets an order from a court to protect them from being released. Judicial records in Texas are handled differently than other government records.

So there is nothing Coroner in Midlo or Ellis County? I always thoughtt it strange that a JP pronounced her deceased without even going to the scene. I haven't heard a JP doing this since nstead of a Coroner

 

[Jethro4WS]

So there is nothing Coroner in Midlo or Ellis County? I always thoughtt it strange that a JP pronounced her deceased without even going to the scene. I haven't heard a JP doing this since nstead of a Coroner

If I understand Texas law correctly only counties that have a population of 1 million or more are required to have a Medical Examiner's office. Counties with less than 1 million population are not prohibited from having a Medical Examiner, it is optional.

That is why in Missy's case the autopsy was performed by the Dallas County Medical Examiner.

ETA. I know someone, (maybe ArkansasMimi?) had posted a quote from an article that the Justice of the Peace pronounced her dead at the scene not too far back in this thread.

 

[WannaBDetective]

My line of thinking is that when KS was on Dr Drew and mentioned a prior infidelity discovery - 15 months before (either when KS was on Dr Drew or Missy's murder, it is unclear) - it was KC. I used to be of the opinion that it was CW from 15 months prior and the affair went underground after discovery and KC was just a rumor but that warrant changed that for me. Of course, I can be wrong about this again.

It wouldn't surprise me that BB learned of KC from MC or even a friend in common. It is entirely possible a PI could have been involved.

My impression was (not sure who floated it) that CW and MB were sexting since about January and after the SW was issued, it was either updated or clarified that attempts of rendezvousing were being made. KC is a good guess for the 15 month ago; except that they seems to remain good friends.

 

[PatTheRat]

So there is nothing Coroner in Midlo or Ellis County? I always thoughtt it strange that a JP pronounced her deceased without even going to the scene. I haven't heard a JP doing this since nstead of a Coroner

"If the manner of death is other than natural, the justice of the peace or medical examiner should be called immediately. Physicians should not certify these types of death. A medical examiner should also be called if a death occurs within 24 hours of admission to a hospital (regardless of the manner of death). This provision does not apply to justices of the peace."

https://webcache.googleusercontent....death/chapter-2.doc+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Remember that it was a justice of the peace who pronounced Justice Scalia dead - and it was also done over the phone.

 

[arkansasmimi]

RSBMFF
The target numbers had a warrant issued for activity and apps on their phones from the dates 03/01/2016 to 04/24/2016 as that is the "specified date range" for the murder that occurred between 3 - 5 on April 18. Hence, the T#s warrants provided investigators with all of the T#s connections, their contacts, their emails, texts, incoming, outgoing and missed calls, and more, during that specified 7 week date range which, interestingly enough, happens to include six days after the murder.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/311723138/ATT-Warrant-Dated-April-25

Sorry I had to run to a Cub Scout meeting so didn't get to finish my thoughts.
These numbers on this Target Numbers gave me cold chills because it is seeking all those individuals info (thinking of it being a Targeted murder and the wording I mean)... and speaks one of those individuals may have had contact with the Suspect.
ATT Tower Dump was between hours of 3 - 5 a.m. ... That same time frame a point was made to include it in the Application for SW. So what they were going to do is cross ref any number from those Target number phones with any from the Tower Dump numbers. **This was April 25th the SW was done. They got some of the Tower Dump records, but we (public) do not know how many times they have received batches.

July 1, 2016 snip "Midlothian's assistant police chief, Kevin Johnson, said in a weekly update Friday that the department had received additional cellphone service records from an April "tower dump" search warrant — adding that it would take some time to analyze the data." http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...death-slowed-police-say-new-warrants-released

Also, they are giving the time the murder could have happened just as I have always thought all the way up until 5 am when found.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

With the WIFI connection they would have the MAC address of the device which is globally unique but alas the MAC address can be spoofed.

Correct!

 

[WannaBDetective]

Well that would make one look guilty if they had a PI following the subject...


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“Look” being the operative word.

If every POI someone on this case had was brought into custody. We’d have to float a bond issue to expand the Ellis County jail. There have been more than a few guilty-looking people.

 

[PatTheRat]

If cell was used for calls, internet, etc., at SWFA the cell would be connected to the cell phone tower and a digital footprint of the connection would be left. If a cell was connected to wifi a digital footprint of the connected wifi IP address and the cell phone tower connection would be left.

ETA
If suspect was using a wifi only device such as a tablet, laptop or a phone without cellular service the cell phone tower dump wouldn't provide any information of that device or the usage. If a wifi only device was used a wifi connection would be needed and it would have left digital footprint. However, LE would need to know about that device or connection in order to capture that digital footprint.

Most likely, if a cell phone was indeed used, the murderer or accomplice would have used a disposable prepaid phone. It's pretty much common knowledge that police will get cellphone data from nearby towers to download pings, calls and other info. Unless the murderer forgot to take the battery out of their phone (anything's possible, I suppose), I'd expect this to be a dead-end as far as identifying the murderer. Maybe police were hoping Missy contacted the murderer, or vice versa, via cellphone, but I think at best she was calling a throwaway phone that leads to a dead-end.

I would find it highly unlikely anyone who went to this much planning of the murder would use a WiFi on an open network to check anything while in public. Too much of a risk that packet data to/from the network router is being stored that can tell usernames, passwords, email addresses, etc that might be passed. The church was very accommodating with their surveillance footage and I'm sure they would be similarly accommodating with their network data, so no search warrant would be required to obtain it. Same for SWFA I would imagine.

 

[DeDee]

Sorry I had to run to a Cub Scout meeting so didn't get to finish my thoughts.
These numbers on this Target Numbers gave me cold chills because it is seeking all those individuals info (thinking of it being a Targeted murder and the wording I mean)... and speaks one of those individuals may have had contact with the Suspect.
ATT Tower Dump was between hours of 3 - 5 a.m. ... That same time frame a point was made to include it in the Application for SW. So what they were going to do is cross ref any number from those Target number phones with any from the Tower Dump numbers. **This was April 25th the SW was done. They got some of the Tower Dump records, but we (public) do not know how many times they have received batches.

July 1, 2016 snip "Midlothian's assistant police chief, Kevin Johnson, said in a weekly update Friday that the department had received additional cellphone service records from an April "tower dump" search warrant — adding that it would take some time to analyze the data." http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...death-slowed-police-say-new-warrants-released

Also, they are giving the time the murder could have happened just as I have always thought all the way up until 5 am when found.

Sorry I had to run to a Cub Scout meeting

That's awesome. Want to buy some Girl Scout cookies?

When do we get the tower dump data? Can't find the rule online yet. Surely we do not need wait for trial. If they will release them, we'll be glad to assist in analyzing the texts. Just so eager for some forward movement.

In Dr. Teresa Sievers' murder case in FL, our hostess opened a paypal acct for us to contribute to purchasing the documents that cost us about a thousand dollars+, but they didn't all dump at the same time.

 

[arkansasmimi]

IIRC there are only 2 SW that make note of MB injuries.
The Truck SW (issued 4/18) and the iPhone&iPad Extraction SW (issued 4/19 executed 4/20)
There are typos and conflicting information in these 2 SW

JMHO I think the time 4:18 of MB entering the building is incorrect and a typo for the date.

Truck SW has at approx 0500 responded to Creekside Church for unresponsive person (0500 is when received 2 - 911 calls, not en route until later) This SW was prior to autopsy done Tues, April 19 yet on 4/18 stated : deceased from a head wound.
It is believed this unknown male used an unknown instrument to cause the death of Terri Bevers at this location.

iPhone/iPad they have receiving 911 call at 5:06 (Updated Timeline has 5:00)
"had multiple puncture wounds found on her head and chest are consistent with the tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building"

JMHO iPhone/iPad Affidavit, could have been written on 4/18, when they made reference to injuries as in the truck SW, and time of MB walking into the building...and not signed off on until 19 and executed on 4/20.... As with the SW for Target Numbers, it was clearly written Sun April 24, but signed on Mon April 25

UPDATE ON TERRI “MISSY” LEANN BEVERS MURDER INVESTIGATION posted 4/22/16 @ 4:14 p.m.

The Midlothian Police Department continues to thoroughly investigate the murder of Terri “Missy” Leann Bevers. In the interest of generating new leads, the department has released additional surveillance footage of the church. The surveillance system is motion-activated and results in different time sequences. If there was no movement captured by the camera system, the video would stop recording. Video surveillance times are approximate.


Updated Timeline:
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 3:50 A.M. – Suspect first appears on video surveillance camera at Creekside Church of Christ
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:16 A.M. – Mrs. Bevers’ pickup truck is shown on video surveillance driving into the church parking lot.
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:20 A.M. – Mrs. Bevers appears on video surveillance camera walking into the church building.
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:35 A.M. – Participant in Camp Gladiator arrives at location
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:00 A.M. – Two 911 calls received from location
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:01 A.M. – Fire Department dispatched
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:03 A.M. – Initial Patrol Officers dispatched
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:07 A.M. – Fire Department arrives at the location
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:10 A.M. – Officers arrive at the location

Case #16MP015685
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/midlothian-police-department-195047007358

 

[Oregonmama]

That's awesome. Want to buy some Girl Scout cookies?

When do we get the tower dump data? Can't find the rule online yet. Surely we do not need wait for trial. If they will release them, we'll be glad to assist in analyzing the texts. Just so eager for some forward movement.

In Dr. Teresa Sievers' murder case in FL, our hostess opened a paypal acct for us to contribute to purchasing the documents that cost us about a thousand dollars+, but they didn't all dump at the same time.

Florida has the sunshine law and makes evidence more view able to the public. In that case, several organizations joined the pool to evenly divide the cost. That was a great idea.....

 

[Oregonmama]

IIRC there are only 2 SW that make note of MB injuries.
The Truck SW (issued 4/18) and the iPhone&iPad Extraction SW (issued 4/19 executed 4/20)
There are typos and conflicting information in these 2 SW

JMHO I think the time 4:18 of MB entering the building is incorrect and a typo for the date.

Truck SW has at approx 0500 responded to Creekside Church for unresponsive person (0500 is when received 2 - 911 calls, not en route until later) This SW was prior to autopsy done Tues, April 19 yet on 4/18 stated : deceased from a head wound.
It is believed this unknown male used an unknown instrument to cause the death of Terri Bevers at this location.

iPhone/iPad they have receiving 911 call at 5:06 (Updated Timeline has 5:00)
"had multiple puncture wounds found on her head and chest are consistent with the tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building"

JMHO iPhone/iPad Affidavit, could have been written on 4/18, when they made reference to injuries as in the truck SW, and time of MB walking into the building...and not signed off on until 19 and executed on 4/20.... As with the SW for Target Numbers, it was clearly written Sun April 24, but signed on Mon April 25

UPDATE ON TERRI “MISSY” LEANN BEVERS MURDER INVESTIGATION posted 4/22/16 @ 4:14 p.m.

The Midlothian Police Department continues to thoroughly investigate the murder of Terri “Missy” Leann Bevers. In the interest of generating new leads, the department has released additional surveillance footage of the church. The surveillance system is motion-activated and results in different time sequences. If there was no movement captured by the camera system, the video would stop recording. Video surveillance times are approximate.


Updated Timeline:
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 3:50 A.M. – Suspect first appears on video surveillance camera at Creekside Church of Christ
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:16 A.M. – Mrs. Bevers’ pickup truck is shown on video surveillance driving into the church parking lot.
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:20 A.M. – Mrs. Bevers appears on video surveillance camera walking into the church building.
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 4:35 A.M. – Participant in Camp Gladiator arrives at location
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:00 A.M. – Two 911 calls received from location
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:01 A.M. – Fire Department dispatched
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:03 A.M. – Initial Patrol Officers dispatched
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:07 A.M. – Fire Department arrives at the location
• Monday, April 18, 2016: 5:10 A.M. – Officers arrive at the location

Case #16MP015685
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/midlothian-police-department-195047007358

very tight timeline for the perp(s)

 

[arkansasmimi]

That's awesome. Want to buy some Girl Scout cookies?

When do we get the tower dump data? Can't find the rule online yet. Surely we do not need wait for trial. If they will release them, we'll be glad to assist in analyzing the texts. Just so eager for some forward movement.

In Dr. Teresa Sievers' murder case in FL, our hostess opened a paypal acct for us to contribute to purchasing the documents that cost us about a thousand dollars+, but they didn't all dump at the same time.

Yes, lol but FL has different rules than the rest of the US lol I doubt we get any Tower Dump numbers for this case JMHO
And it appears that when they got the "that the department had received additional cellphone service records from an April "tower dump" search warrant " so not sure how many got prior or how many since.

I know from following other trials that Cell phone pings are not solid evidence and have seen some not use them because they are not exact. Here is an interesting article from 2014. I know they have came a long way since then but still there are issues with the pinging. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-your-cell-phone-cant-tell-the-police

In this case they asked for all the ATT cell towers within 5 miles. I got those looking up towers once. There are also other cell towers not listed as ATT. I hope that doesn't become an issue. JMHO

AND YES on the GS Cookies Thin Mint please, thank you lol

 

[arkansasmimi]

I am perplexed by the probable cause affidavit for BB's FB. In one sentence they mention BB offering up the KC/MB relationship and in the next sentence they talk about MB being in contact with CW.

I am also confused by the time ranges they selected and the obvious error of it being Central Standard Time when it was already Daylights Savings Time. Who knows what time range of information MPD actually got back.

My gut, and nothing more, tells me MPD were rather confident of the ATT Tower warrant and the Phone warrants bearing fruit. And my gut is telling me that Missy had sent or received a message (even if unread) or made or received a call (even if unanswered) in that time frame. If I were MPD I would be tracking down who knew about CW prior to Missy's murder based on any communications via MB, BB or CW to anyone else or based on interviews with BB, CW or other individuals. I believe someone else had to know and as long as it didn't get to too many people MPD would be not far from finding SP - they may even have already spoken to SP for other reasons (obviously not realizing the individual was SP). Naturally I could be wrong about this.

The records they get will be for the correct times, because they come in UTC times . JMHO, from when I followed the Beverly Carter murder case. They got ATT cell phone records. The time zone here is same, Central Standard Time. The documents will come in UTC time and MPD investigators will have to subtract either -5 or -6 hours from time listed on documents.to get the correct local time for that date. *cant remember which it was for Daylight Savings. I had it figured out at the time lol

 

[arkansasmimi]

My consideration for the affidavit for BB's FB is perhaps BB was informed via FB of relationship(s) of MB and at least KC. I think it's possible someone, maybe even the killer(s), outed some of MB's behaviors to BB. I think it's also possible a PI was involved at some point, and the information was provided by the investigator. It wouldn't have to be a licensed PI - any friend, acquaintance, colleague or family member could follow her. Therefore, information about KC could be included in those messages, MC could have been told, and on and on. Realizing it mimics middle school behavior, but I think it's possible.

JMHO, MPD already had extracted MB iPhone and iPad by time they got info from others. Interviews helped make sense "who was who" kinda thing. BB had told MPD about KC and CW for the SW to be done for FB on Wed 4/20/16. MT told reporter on Thur April 21 that they had looked at BB cell phone already so JMHO they did it on Tues? Wed at latest. It was right at a full week later before they got ATT Target SW and LinkedIn (4/26 emerg faxed over and SW 4/27). :thinking: curious what BB told Investigators on Tues when he went in... then had press conf that evening in yard. $$ says that when told about KC/CW. JMHO Go back and listen to that presser with that thought in mind. **also MB phone was not password protected per MPD. Strange to me for someone who having alleged affairs. JMHO How many times have you seen someone post on fb that they been hacked by because they didn't log out.

By the ATT Target Numbers SW signed Monday 4/25/16. BB allowed them to extract his iPhones < he had 2 listed on the SW, once very well could have been a phone for a child or a work phone or just another phone, but he and VB lines on the SW were longer, so more than one number.

JMHO, VB/RB were added due to the Shirt, CT/AT from rumors and AT was coworker. WH not sure unless posts to BB Facebook at time BB was out of town. MC maybe due to KC (looking for motive? CT or MC?)

CW must have had a pretty solid alibi too. He wasn't on any other SW that we are aware of. KC had a spin class. AT had a class. RB/VB/BB out of state.


Wed
4/20 Warrant return iPhone & iPad extraction executed, no time given
4/20 At some point this date ATF K9 searched inside and outside of building/grounds
4/20 1:18 p.m. post on CCofC about Prayer service https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...d=179345102342
4/20 6:30 p.m. Creekside doors open
4/20 6:45 p.m. time of prayer and reflection tonight at Creekside .
4/20 7:05 pm BB & MB FB Exigent Circumstances signed by Judge Carroll