TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #41

[nearsouth]

Other than Jethro, I haven't heard many well thought out motives. I believe someone speculated that MB witnessed some nefarious goings on in Midlothoan in the wee hours as she traveled to her boot camp, that some bad guy felt she needed to die for. This isn't a bad tv script. Have we heard any others? Do we know about life insurance? Locals, heard anything? We live about 20 minutes away but it's in another county. This case was all anyone could talk about last spring. Now, no one ever mentions it. And if I mention it people usually say, oh yeah wasn't that the weird cop guy? Like its not the most disturbing video they've ever seen. I can't watch it. It gives me nightmares. I've never felt creeped out in the night walking the dog in my own neighborhood until that video.

For me, the only thing I could even imagine bringing me to a murderous rage is someone messing with my kids. I can't imagine Missy doing anything cruel to a child. What made someone murderously angry? I can only think of one person whom I could imagine, but MPD says no, don't go there. So, back to knowing nothing again.

Agree about the kids TBacon!

My mind has entertained many motives.

I originally was almost certain this was some kind of a jealousy issue (love triangle or affair related), but to me that seems to imply a solo killer and I don't think that's the case anymore. I like Jethro's idea of religious/morality motive (I hope I haven't miscontrued his base theory), but that seems like an outlier but certainly viable. The police 'outfit' is the twist that seems to make that possibility strange unless SP was trying to send a message at the same time? Kind of a double whammy of the kill in the church + message to police or authorities in general? Anyone have ideas on that?

At the same time it's difficult to ignore statistics, and there's always been that thing in the back of my mind trying to figure out IF/HOW BB is connected to all this in some way. I mean being out of town on an annual fishing trip on the same night/morning? What are the chances of that being a coincidence? I've also thought if BB isn't connected, did the killer start watching the news the next day and realize suddenly BB was out of town and say 'oh *****...' counting on him taking the bulk of suspicion early on?

After seeing the Altima video and analyzing the video closer as well as looking into a lot of anecdotal info, I still believe this involves at least 2-3 perps. If that's the case, I would suspect there is a tight bond of some type somewhat assuring they won't rat each other out. They all have something to lose, and I think this could possibly be some sort of crime ring where the stakes are pretty high. What is that? My bet is drugs.

As far as motive? My money is on meth and possibly other drug(s) involving many people. Missy knew something via a relationship that the Bevers were involved with (maybe one degree of separation from people that are heavily involved). Maybe the relationship became tainted in some way (possibly from a business disagreement or other), and perhaps Missy hinted or suggested in some way that she would alert authorities of what she knew. It could have even been an idle threat, but you have to be careful who you threaten right? When the stakes are high, it can only take one transgression sometimes to cause someone to act.

This might sound bad, but I live in the DFW area and sometimes I jokingly ask 'what are they putting in the water out there?' when I find myself having a conversation about rural counties surrounding DFW. I invite you to do a google search on meth issues in Ellis county. I don't mean to pick on Ellis county in particular (and the nearby cities Ft. Worth and Dallas certainly have their share of crazy), but if you live in the area and have some understanding of the rural culture you'll know what I mean.

Of course I could be so far off base it will be embarrassing later on if/when indictments are made. All JMO...

 

[MrsPC]

After all the screen captures I've taken from the MPD surveillance video I thought I had captured every second until I was reviewing last night and I hadn't taken any at 1.48 where the killer is actually entering the alcove with her left hand up holding the flashlight. Got some last night though at this segment and I'm a little surprised. I think I can actually see the killer's face. (the white streak is the light shining from the flashlight she's holding up.)

 

[Jethro4WS]

Agree about the kids TBacon!

My mind has entertained many motives.

I originally was almost certain this was some kind of a jealousy issue (love triangle or affair related), but to me that seems to imply a solo killer and I don't think that's the case anymore. I like Jethro's idea of religious/morality motive (I hope I haven't miscontrued his base theory), but that seems like an outlier but certainly viable. The police 'outfit' is the twist that seems to make that possibility strange unless SP was trying to send a message at the same time? Kind of a double whammy of the kill in the church + message to police or authorities in general? Anyone have ideas on that?

At the same time it's difficult to ignore statistics, and there's always been that thing in the back of my mind trying to figure out IF/HOW BB is connected to all this in some way. I mean being out of town on an annual fishing trip on the same night/morning? What are the chances of that being a coincidence? I've also thought if BB isn't connected, did the killer start watching the news the next day and realize suddenly BB was out of town and say 'oh *****...' counting on him taking the bulk of suspicion early on?

After seeing the Altima video and analyzing the video closer as well as looking into a lot of anecdotal info, I still believe this involves at least 2-3 perps. If that's the case, I would suspect there is a tight bond of some type somewhat assuring they won't rat each other out. They all have something to lose, and I think this could possibly be some sort of crime ring where the stakes are pretty high. What is that? My bet is drugs.

As far as motive? My money is on meth and possibly other drug(s) involving many people. Missy knew something via a relationship that the Bevers were involved with (maybe one degree of separation from people that are heavily involved). Maybe the relationship became tainted in some way (possibly from a business disagreement or other), and perhaps Missy hinted or suggested in some way that she would alert authorities of what she knew. It could have even been an idle threat, but you have to be careful who you threaten right? When the stakes are high, it can only take one transgression sometimes to cause someone to act.

This might sound bad, but I live in the DFW area and sometimes I jokingly ask 'what are they putting in the water out there?' when I find myself having a conversation about rural counties surrounding DFW. I invite you to do a google search on meth issues in Ellis county. I don't mean to pick on Ellis county in particular (and the nearby cities Ft. Worth and Dallas certainly have their share of crazy), but if you live in the area and have some understanding of the rural culture you'll know what I mean.

Of course I could be so far off base it will be embarrassing later on if/when indictments are made. All JMO...

Motive works. MB would have crossed paths with many characters and once you go once removed from those characters you can possibly find that kind of stuff. All it would take in those scenarios would be whether someone thought MB knew something and might say something about it whether or not she actually did know.

 

[cady]

Great advice !!! Totally agree w you! I don't live there but I would imagine Missy's friends are trying. The most silent case I've ever seen! Missy had around 1500 friends on FB and she was so loved by many. I don't think her friends will stop until an arrest is made. However, I don't think we will ever hear what's happening in that town.


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I think that someone(s) in that town KNOW who the perp(s) is, and want the story to go away, because implicating the perp would shock and hurt SO many people that criminal justice for the murder, in their view, would cause greater unjustified pain to many. In my opinion, whoever knows who the perp is, at this point, is as guilty as the perp. Angry. JMO

 

[Jethro4WS]

BBM: I couldn't agree more. This is the critical question.

And in my opinion and on another topic, forensic profiling is a skill of educated and trained professionals; therefore, a victim profile of MB without access to evidence, investigative findings - specifically including interviews - is pure speculation. I think it takes a great deal of education, experience and competency in the field of victimology to consider all the information and formulate an opinion. Snippets from SM and limited information available through internet searches isn't enough. We may have access to some information; however, we do not have access to the most crucial information. Unless there is someone on this thread who does have access to that information, we're all just hanging out here waiting for some facts to role in. We all come to this with our own individual interests and biases. This is one of mine. Just my opinion and my rant!

I agree, understanding the victim is crucial. It may actually be the key. Naturally, we won't likely ever see the kinds of information you mention but knowing even half of it would tell us way more about what was going on with MB. For me, since I believe it is someone close it, knowing more about the victim is critical.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I think that someone(s) in that town KNOW who the perp(s) is, and want the story to go away, because implicating the perp would shock and hurt SO many people that criminal justice for the murder, in their view, would cause greater unjustified pain to many. In my opinion, whoever knows who the perp is, at this point, is as guilty as the perp. Angry. JMO

I am concerned about how silent everyone connected to MB has been. It is one thing to want an investigation to wind its course and result in justice. But it is quite another that MB does not have someone close to her that is her living advocate, fighting for her. It is sad. It is troubling.

 

[Thekt]

Curious why Missy's mother in law (B.B.'s mother) and sister in law (blonde one) are not on the phone and electronic records SW(s).

 

[Jethro4WS]

After all the screen captures I've taken from the MPD surveillance video I thought I had captured every second until I was reviewing last night and I hadn't taken any at 1.48 where the killer is actually entering the alcove with her left hand up holding the flashlight. Got some last night though at this segment and I'm a little surprised. I think I can actually see the killer's face. (the white streak is the light shining from the flashlight she's holding up.)

Beyond my skill level. But that looks like a face to me.

 

[cady]

I agree, understanding the victim is crucial. It may actually be the key. Naturally, we won't likely ever see the kinds of information you mention but knowing even half of it would tell us way more about what was going on with MB. For me, since I believe it is someone close it, knowing more about the victim is critical.

Yes. And we can't find out any more about Missy. And her friendships or relationships, so, it is difficult to explore the killer's motivation. We don't even know precisely HOW she died. (weapons used, in what order and where on her body). We know that it was grisly,but the details of the killing could say a lot about the killer, the relationship to the victim, and the motivation. JMO

 

[ezrah]

I am concerned about how silent everyone connected to MB has been. It is one thing to want an investigation to wind its course and result in justice. But it is quite another that MB does not have someone close to her that is her living advocate, fighting for her. It is sad. It is troubling.

What are some of the plausible reasons those close to MB have seemingly gone silent? I'll try a few. They know more than we do and believe LE is on the right path now to solve? They have been instructed by LE not to talk? They are afraid to talk bc of perp(s) involved? They are afraid to talk bc LE involved? They want to move on as nothing will bring MB back? A combo of several of these hypothetical reasons? MOO

 

[cady]

Curious why Missy's mother in law (B.B.'s mother) and sister in law (blonde one) are not on the phone and electronic records SW(s).

Does anyone know if there are SEALED warrants in this case? JMO

 

[Deleted member 102539]

After all the screen captures I've taken from the MPD surveillance video I thought I had captured every second until I was reviewing last night and I hadn't taken any at 1.48 where the killer is actually entering the alcove with her left hand up holding the flashlight. Got some last night though at this segment and I'm a little surprised. I think I can actually see the killer's face. (the white streak is the light shining from the flashlight she's holding up.)

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I've noticed that more members here than before are saying/writing "she" when they are talking about the SP ....

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I think that someone(s) in that town KNOW who the perp(s) is, and want the story to go away, because implicating the perp would shock and hurt SO many people that criminal justice for the murder, in their view, would cause greater unjustified pain to many. In my opinion, whoever knows who the perp is, at this point, is as guilty as the perp. Angry. JMO

bbm
Nobody believes an astrologer but nevertheless sometimes I like to google one of them .... and I am surprised how precise (!) one of them would interpret ....

 

[Deleted member 102539]

What are some of the plausible reasons those close to MB have seemingly gone silent? I'll try a few. They know more than we do and believe LE is on the right path now to solve? They have been instructed by LE not to talk? They are afraid to talk bc of perp(s) involved? They are afraid to talk bc LE involved? They want to move on as nothing will bring MB back? A combo of several of these hypothetical reasons? MOO

bbm

Maybe this?

 

[DeDee]

BBM: I couldn't agree more. This is the critical question.

And in my opinion and on another topic, forensic profiling is a skill of educated and trained professionals; therefore, a victim profile of MB without access to evidence, investigative findings - specifically including interviews - is pure speculation. I think it takes a great deal of education, experience and competency in the field of victimology to consider all the information and formulate an opinion. Snippets from SM and limited information available through internet searches isn't enough. We may have access to some information; however, we do not have access to the most crucial information. Unless there is someone on this thread who does have access to that information, we're all just hanging out here waiting for some facts to role in. We all come to this with our own individual interests and biases. This is one of mine. Just my opinion and my rant!

A victim profile is a must. I conducted an amateur victim profile for MB within days of 4/18/16. It includes her, her husband, offspring, churches and CG among other areas. MBs life was an open book in many aspects.

• We knew when MB faced the watershed of losing her Father and turning 40yo that she began a life dedicated to healthy exercise activities. Fitness matters. Rain or Shine.
• As with most people, she gravitated toward like-minded individuals and vice versa.
• LE told us that there were issues concerning financial difficulties and marital strife.
• Furthermore, we learn of intimate relationships external to the marriage.

The list could continue on and on. It all fits nicely into a lovely profile of whom MB was. One thing that I never wavered on is that MB adored her mini me offspring.

 

[rodee34]

I'm just asking Sleuthers out of curiosity.. have any of these cases been helped along by hypnosis, or a
psychic? Thinking that the person the MB shared the "creepy message" with might remember more if they were under hypnosis. Netflicks has this series of murder cases that were unsolved, until a psychic was brought in. Grasping at straws..


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[DeDee]

What are some of the plausible reasons those close to MB have seemingly gone silent? I'll try a few. They know more than we do and believe LE is on the right path now to solve? They have been instructed by LE not to talk? They are afraid to talk bc of perp(s) involved? They are afraid to talk bc LE involved? They want to move on as nothing will bring MB back? A combo of several of these hypothetical reasons? MOO

They are afraid to talk bc of perp(s) involved?

What are some of the plausible reasons those close to MB have seemingly gone silent?

To your list, add a possible respected wish and sincere request to go silent made by a grieving husband.

 

[kmoon]

Beyond my skill level. But that looks like a face to me.

Help. Can you give some direction ?


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[Razz]

To your list, add a possible respected wish and sincere request to go silent made by a grieving husband.

I'm not sure I understand. Do you think BB has asked family and friends to stop talking in the best interests of his children? I can understand this to a point.....but can grieving really begin until you know the whole story? I mean, can you wrap up what happened to MB in a box and put it on the shelf?

I think every day that passes without knowing what happened to my husband, wife, whoever...would slowly kill me. How do you accept what happened? How do you manage w/out trying to find justice for a loved one?

It's difficult to know, I guess. But, I can't imagine moving on. Even as an older child I'd have a difficult time grieving or moving on.

Who killed my wife, mother, daughter etc.... and why?

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[Seriously?]

I'm just asking Sleuthers out of curiosity.. have any of these cases been helped along by hypnosis, or a
psychic? Thinking that the person the MB shared the "creepy message" with might remember more if they were under hypnosis. Netflicks has this series of murder cases that were unsolved, until a psychic was brought in. Grasping at straws..

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Hey, rodee! Good to see you.

Take a look under Basic Mission, Forensic Capabilities.............. possible......

http://www.texasranger.org/today/Ranger_Duties.htm