TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #43

[Cannonball3804]

Exactly. Walking down the hall, dragging their hand absentmindedly along the wall.. there is nothing about their demeanor that says "I'm going to kill someone in a few minutes."
Also, proponents of premeditation often say something to the effect of, "the killer knew exactly when she would be there." She wasn't coming, they were coming. A class worth of fitness enthusiasts coming to a parking lot with one exit. It had been raining and they were moving the class inside, plenty of reason for someone to show up early to help get the gear inside. I spent all night going over Missy's Facebook photo posts, several times. As I'd read, Missy commonly brought one or more of her daughters with her to workouts, even the 5:00 AM workout.
And nobody got there "exactly" on time. Missy arrived and entered the building at 4:20, 40 minutes early.
The first class participant arrived at 4:35, 25 minutes early.
Not to mention, who plans to murder a fitness instructor in hand to hand combat? Even armed with a hammer and tools, that is just a stupid plan.

Excellent points. And MB had a FB post in which she said that some campers were known to come 30 mins early. If I'm this super-intelligent killer looking to do a hit on her, and I've done all the research, and she pulls in at 4:20 giving me potentially a 10-minute window, no way I'm going through with the plan.

 

[Moshimo]

Playing my own devil's advocate, here is a possible exception to the killer not knowing exactly when Missy would be there. I researched the workout group Missy was affiliated with. They (now at least) have a phone app that appeared to feature check-ins. I've never heard it mentioned but if her class was using something like that, surely LE would have found out. Missy's photos also reveal that she used/started one or more workout scheduling related pages that unfortunately are no longer available and not even archived at the Wayback Machine. I want to say I found one other fitness related phone app that had a check-in feature but the app looked like it was one of several things Missy tried out and moved on from quickly. Her photos go back 2 or 3 years so obviously some finds are more relevant than others.
So I consider the killer knowing her arrival time via instant check-in app to be a weak possibility but I found it, so there it is. I would think the only way you could be signed up for alerts anyway would be through Missy, which limits access to class participants.

 

[moslym3]

I'm thinking about motive for SP wandering around in the church. In police gear- in a location with visible surveillance cameras. SP has to assume that the tapes will be watched by LE and the church leaders immediately after.

Is SP just bored, curious and "having his way with" the church? - just some sort of sociopath that does this, breaks into places and wanders around? Loves the thrill maybe?

Does SP have a motive related to the church - like wanting to scare them or make them lose trust in law enforcement?

Does SP have a motive related to law enforcement? Is he trying to lay shade to LE? Frame them for stuff?

Is SP just wandering around looking for something interesting to steal?

Of all the motives to put SP in the scenes we have seen on the surveillance videos, "planning to beat a woman to death with a hammer in about 15 minutes" seems so far-fetched.

We may never know the SPs intentions when he finally encountered MB. Does the information we have today give us any indication as to whether MB succumbed to her injuries immediately or was her condition such that if she got medical attention right away (not 35 mins later) she would have survived?

 

[Moshimo]

In the first news conference LE states that when they arrived medics were attending an "unresponsive female."

Ok, I'm gonna share something that I don't really think means anything but it did cause me to wonder if the suspect was intentionally trying to impersonate local LE via their disguise. Midlothian PD runs some kind of outreach program in alliance with or maybe at the Bridges Training Foundation. Here are photos of them at an outing on (or possibly photos posted on) May 22nd 2016 (Missy was murdered April 18th 2016) apparently leading a hands-on demonstration of some of their tactical gear. I'll limit this to the more relevant photos..

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I think MB was targeted & I think the killer needed to perform the kill away from her house where her **children** were. So to me, the Church was just a convenient location. The timing couldn’t have been better with hubby out of town, dark outside, rainy night....a killers’ “trifecta” so to speak!

As to the nonchalance nature of the killer; he has done evil deeds before.

The SWAT outfit is a perfect ruse for a quick getaway without witnesses suspecting a thing if witnesses should come about. Yep, of course police are on the scene <— a perfect blending in & getting away quickly.

Still.."43 threads & no suspect named. Her family is staying quiet....(not to insinuate blame on them).

Moo

 

[Moshimo]

I think MB was targeted & I think the killer needed to perform the kill away from her house where her **children** were. So to me, the Church was just a convenient location. The timing couldn&#8217;t have been better with hubby out of town, dark outside, rainy night....a killers&#8217; &#8220;trifecta&#8221; so to speak!

As to the nonchalance nature of the killer; he has done evil deeds before.

The SWAT outfit is a perfect ruse for a quick getaway without witnesses suspecting a thing if witnesses should come about. Yep, of course police are on the scene <&#8212; a perfect blending in & getting away quickly.

Still.."43 threads & no suspect named. Her family is staying quiet....(not to insinuate blame on them).

Moo

As we just mentioned, Missy commonly took one or more of her kids to her class. You can tell by looking at her Facebook photos when she photographed and tagged the members of previous classes. So if the suspect was getting their information from her Facebook page, that was there too. If anything, the fact that Missy sometimes took them gives even more credence to the unplanned attack, in my opinion. Not only to avoid attacking the kids too but logistically, how are you going to control a face to face attack situation with multiple people around?
Conversely, the only way I can see the suspect having the gear and plan, knowing the exact time range, including the rain in their plan, etc is if they have incredibly first-hand knowledge. How would you know for certain Missy was coming alone unless she told you? As for the time, it would seem they would have to have known when she left home as no one arrived on schedule at the church, everyone was early.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

As we just mentioned, Missy commonly took one or more of her kids to her class. You can tell by looking at her Facebook photos when she photographed and tagged the members of previous classes. So if the suspect was getting their information from her Facebook page, that was there too.

I thought it was mentioned many times that she did not take them to that early class. Other classes, yes.

 

[Moshimo]

I thought it was mentioned many times that she did not take them to that early class. Other classes, yes.

If necessary I can dig out and link but yes, I specifically looked for and found 5:00am instances. If I remember correctly, Missy was expressed pride in that in at least once, but that was common of most of her workout class posts. I was glad to finally find a media post that mentioned Missy's friends relating that she was not acting like her normal exuberant self for a short time period just preceding her death because I kept seeing it as a rumor. Studying her posted photos, I noticed that she had a long history of tagging her class members in her posts but towards the last posts, she stopped tagging anyone.

 

[janesmith787]

Jane, I was going to respond to your other post and then the thread was closed. You made the statement, often repeated here, that the fact nothing was taken is evidence that it wasn't a burglary.

If it is a burglary interrupted, then the interruption is the REASON that nothing was taken. No burglar, having been surprised and then committing a murder, is going to say to himself, "Well that was too bad. Now, back to my burglarizing." Fight is followed by flight. Having been surprised by one person, he has to allow that more are on the way.

I’d agree with you...I wasn’t meaning definitively/absolutely, but IMO it was never a burglary regardless of being interrupted or not. I could be wrong, just not very likely. My opinion only


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[janesmith787]

As someone who used to do CG, I’m giving my opinions/experience. Not stating this is common for everyone and this is in no means a definitive ecplaiantion on behalf of CG.

1. The day of the murder was the first day of a brand new 4 week camp. There is paperwork to fill out, so not surprising for some one to come early IF they were new...I know nothing about the first camper arriving.

2. Not unusual for people to come early...especially when at 5a camp. I had to force myself to get up and knew if I stayed home, I’d go back to sleep. Lots of people would sit in their cars, play on phone etc before camp started.

3. There is always an alternate due to weather, and this camp happened to have their alternate inside at the church. Several locations have their camp indoors at a location near their main one as an alternative.

4. Campers in my experience have always been super welcoming and friendly to new campers. Of course, you’ve got some “regulars” who would go to the same trainer/camp each week, but even when new people would come to your camp it wasn’t uncommon. It’s a very family oriented community and everyone is always super welcoming (again from my experience) of new people.

5. As far as mobile check in, yes you could check in on your phone when you were close enough to the location. Each checkin was tracked via an iPad and tracked in the CG system. I am assuming (again MOO) that they (police) would’ve tracked the members of her camps for a while both before and after her murder to determine any connections.

I know when the murder first happened, campers signed up at various locations to go early for the trainers setting up by themselves as a precaution. Also there would be more cops patrolling camps (again my own experience, not speaking for the camps in Missy’s area specifically.) also, I was told CG was told not
To speak to the media about it and news stations would call pretending to be concerned campers to get info.

I personally believe it was targeted and have thought so all along. I could be wrong, but nothing I’ve heard/read/seen has lead me to believe otherwise.

Again, I don’t know Missy or any of her family so I am not speaking on behalf of them or for them. Nor am I a CG employee/member, so what I’ve stated is strictly my opinion and personal experience.


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[Kaley Smith]

I believe Missy was targeted; it was not a robbery.

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm thinking about motive for SP wandering around in the church. In police gear- in a location with visible surveillance cameras. SP has to assume that the tapes will be watched by LE and the church leaders immediately after.

Is SP just bored, curious and "having his way with" the church? - just some sort of sociopath that does this, breaks into places and wanders around? Loves the thrill maybe?

Does SP have a motive related to the church - like wanting to scare them or make them lose trust in law enforcement?

Does SP have a motive related to law enforcement? Is he trying to lay shade to LE? Frame them for stuff?

Is SP just wandering around looking for something interesting to steal?

Of all the motives to put SP in the scenes we have seen on the surveillance videos, "planning to beat a woman to death with a hammer in about 15 minutes" seems so far-fetched.

We may never know the SPs intentions when he finally encountered MB. Does the information we have today give us any indication as to whether MB succumbed to her injuries immediately or was her condition such that if she got medical attention right away (not 35 mins later) she would have survived?

I'm still holding on to the theory there were two perps in the church. One perhaps waiting in ambush by the door to hit Missy when she arrived, and another walking around as a partner - perhaps clean up or look out. The casual gait is because the other person was the "leader" would be the one to do the actual killing.

Total speculation, subject to change. jmo

 

[Moshimo]

Wow, thanks for the insight and your opinion, janesmith787! So even if the suspect had access to the phone app, Missy would more than likely have checked-in after her arrival at the church, not when leaving her home. That makes sense.

I also agree that the suspects demeanor doesn't scream experienced burglar. Watching how unwieldy they are with their tools while failing to enter that one door, they strike me as someone that has little to no experience with them. That excessive disguise also speaks of inexperience. Like maybe they thought they could fool their way out of a bad spot in a last resort. When I watch other CCTV videos, a hood and gloves seems to provide the same effect and is far less conspicuous should you have to interact with someone before or afterwards.
So that leaves someone with a vendetta against the church, someone familiar enough to warrant such a total disguise yet unfamiliar enough not to realize that Missy and her group were coming at the same time. Of course, for us, that is unsleuthable.

 

[Moshimo]

I believe Missy was targeted; it was not a robbery.

Yes but why do you think so? Can you relate your opinion to case facts or is it just a gut feeling?

I keep saying that this case has been hindered by its own circumstances, you can find so many cliches you might expect from such an investigation all in this one case that a casual perusal is almost guaranteed to make you go, "Oh yeah, it was that guy., he set her up." But as you learn more, you end up saying, "Oh, well it could have been them." Then you find out about the Linked-in messages and you say, "Well obviously.. but wait a minute, it couldn't be all of them!?!" This case is like a red herring breading facility. Any direction you want to run with your theory, you will find evidence to support that.
This is why I am doing an exhaustive accumulation of information about this case, so I can discuss it according to the known facts. Otherwise I get about two statements in and start wondering if I am remembering verifiable facts or commonly espoused rumor? I will be pulling forward the "Fact check" post I started a few pages back and see it evolving into an abbreviated FAQ of sorts on the facts most related to whether or not this was a planned murder or a botched break-in.

 

[Razz]

As we just mentioned, Missy commonly took one or more of her kids to her class. You can tell by looking at her Facebook photos when she photographed and tagged the members of previous classes. So if the suspect was getting their information from her Facebook page, that was there too. If anything, the fact that Missy sometimes took them gives even more credence to the unplanned attack, in my opinion. Not only to avoid attacking the kids too but logistically, how are you going to control a face to face attack situation with multiple people around?
Conversely, the only way I can see the suspect having the gear and plan, knowing the exact time range, including the rain in their plan, etc is if they have incredibly first-hand knowledge. How would you know for certain Missy was coming alone unless she told you? As for the time, it would seem they would have to have known when she left home as no one arrived on schedule at the church, everyone was early.

Speculation Ahead:

Well, I believe she did tell someone..
because she was asked the night
before via phone, 2 times. BB states
he called her twice that night. I believe the conversation may have gone like this: "So, with all this rain, will you be holding classes? Oh yeah, that's right.
In the main hallway where you usually hold it when it rains."

2nd call: How are the girls doing? Tell
them I sure miss them. Will our oldest be accompanying you in the morning?
Yes, I agree, it's probably best she stays home during this weather."

This is all speculation but it sure makes sense to me. BB just double checking.


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[wildebeest]

A very strange burglar indeed, the way he/she ambles about in the church as if killing time. You'd think they'd want to get in and out as fast as possible. Have you watched the video?

Indeed I have, many times. As I said, a very small part of me is bothered.

hdear:

 

[janesmith787]

Razz hit the nail on the head IMO. Way too many coincidences that I refuse to hash again (go read the many previous posts in other threads-not saying that disrespectfully.) Baby brain has made me forget so much of the local chatter I heard, but a woman’s gut will never lead her wrong.

To clarify to the last post, the trainer wouldn’t check into their own camp to my knowledge. But, CG keeps track of your check in’s, so they would be able to know who checked in when/where/occurred..again, not saying its fact, but as far as I know they should....Moo


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[KaaBoom]

A very strange burglar indeed, the way he/she ambles about in the church as if killing time. You'd think they'd want to get in and out as fast as possible. Have you watched the video?

I disagree with that logic. If MB was not having her class that night, there would have been nobody within a mile of that church. The burglar could have spent another two or three hours in the building, before anyone would have arrived. Church burglars typically spend time looking for small valuable items and money. It's not a smash and grab type of burglary. If no alarm is tripped, a burglar can spend all night in a church. There would be no rush.

 

[Moshimo]

Speculation Ahead:

Well, I believe she did tell someone..
because she was asked the night
before via phone, 2 times. BB states
he called her twice that night. I believe the conversation may have gone like this: "So, with all this rain, will you be holding classes? Oh yeah, that's right.
In the main hallway where you usually hold it when it rains."

2nd call: How are the girls doing? Tell
them I sure miss them. Will our oldest be accompanying you in the morning?
Yes, I agree, it's probably best she stays home during this weather."

This is all speculation but it sure makes sense to me. BB just double checking.


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Sorry but that is very confusing to me, can you clarify what part is speculation and what can be linked and verified?
For one thing, looking through years worth of Missy's photo posts reveals multiple instances of posts to the effect of "rain or shine we are working out" and not a single post about cancelling a class. As our recent Camp Gladiator alumni just posted, trainers use locations with alternate indoor workout areas in case of rain. So it would seem unlikely to me that BB would have asked if she was still having class due to the rain. Not to mention he was out of state on a fishing trip, so I would think he'd be less likely to be keeping up with the weather back in Texas.

I imagine this is a abbreviated but I really don't like the list of alibis BB gives in this article. "Brandon Bevers also said his whereabouts the morning his wife was killed is also a &#8220;non-issue&#8221;. He said police have plane tickets and a car rental receipt to prove he was on his yearly fishing trip in Mississippi.
Plane tickets and a car rental? No eyewitness accounts? No CCTV footage? Missy's shared photos of BB and his father's past fishing trip on her page. Did he return with photos this time? I have no idea when he left Texas or if he even had time to do any fishing as I've never seen a timeline on that.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/04/27/missy-bevers-family-backs-pds-decision-to-seize-bloody-shirts/

 

[Cryptic]

A very strange burglar indeed, the way he/she ambles about in the church as if killing time. You'd think they'd want to get in and out as fast as possible. Have you watched the video?

Though think the victim was targeted, burglars vary in skill and motivation (as the other poster mentioned).

Skilled burglars would quickly try to locate the Sunday donations (ransack church secretary's and clergy offices), then move on to expensive audio / video equipment that some churches may have, then quickly leave as they know about possible silent alarms and possible early morning prayer groups etc.

Less experienced burglars may wander around with out a plan or be in a drug daze. Likewise, they could have a primary motivation of vandalism and only steal haphazardly. Thus, they could spend far longer in the church.

This perpetrator, however, does not seem to be acting like any kind of burglar (makes no efforts, either systematic or clumsy to find valuables). Likewise, the person does not vandalize anything. Instead, she (seems to have a feminine gait) appears to be nervously pacing while waiting for some one.... .