TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #47

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  • #621
The perpetrator didn't seem terribly upset towards the church - pretty timid vandalism. No pews flipped over, no altar touched, no graffiti. If someone's was angry at the church it would have been wrecked. Certainly seems much more likely a plain old garden variety burglarly or a practice run for burglarizing another place, which unfortunately turned bad when Missy surprised the perp.
 
  • #622
The perpetrator didn't seem terribly upset towards the church - pretty timid vandalism. No pews flipped over, no altar touched, no graffiti. If someone's was angry at the church it would have been wrecked. Certainly seems much more likely a plain old garden variety burglarly or a practice run for burglarizing another place, which unfortunately turned bad when Missy surprised the perp.
I honestly don't believe for 1 second this was a practice run for another burglary.

This was 100% targeted at Missy Bevers.

The Perp planned this some time in advance and covered their tracks well. The attack was too brutal and personal IMO.
 
  • #623
I honestly don't believe for 1 second this was a practice run for another burglary.

This was 100% targeted at Missy Bevers.

The Perp planned this some time in advance and covered their tracks well. The attack was too brutal and personal IMO.

"Brutal"?? "Personal"?? How so?

Missy was shot and killed, which was devastating and extreme, but firing off one or more gunshots doesn't tell us a lot about the thinking of the perp. Nor does it tell us anything about what the perp felt about the victim, other than they decided to shoot at them for some reason.
 
  • #624
I honestly don't believe for 1 second this was a practice run for another burglary.

This was 100% targeted at Missy Bevers.

The Perp planned this some time in advance and covered their tracks well. The attack was too brutal and personal IMO.

Completely agree. Facts: 1. There was no theft 2. There was a murder.

Four common motives for murder: greed, jealousy, anger, fear. Pick one.
 
  • #625
bbm
"Brutal"?? "Personal"?? How so?

Missy was shot and killed, which was devastating and extreme, but firing off one or more gunshots doesn't tell us a lot about the thinking of the perp. Nor does it tell us anything about what the perp felt about the victim, other than they decided to shoot at them for some reason.
How do you know she was shot?
afaik LE only released she died from multiple puncture wounds to the head and chest.
And puncture wounds are not caused by bullets.
Or have there been new updates in her case?

I 100% believe she was targeted.
 
  • #626
Not looking for it, but a national LE database of crimes shows one death on Midlothian, Texas on this date -- gunshot wound. Posted upthread by a reliable poster.

Local LE is imho being intentionally vague stating 'puncture wound,' possibly out of respect for the deceased & the family. This family has been through the ringer, imho.

jmho ymmv lrr

Just bringing this forward. Still not looking for it, but one of us will remember &/or find it!
 
  • #627
I saw that before, I think on Reddit, but I couldn't open the link.
Maybe someone else will have better luck.
I think the name of the site started with "murder" ... and then something, if that helps. And it was a .org domain and not a .gov I'm pretty sure, so not sure how reliable or where they got their info.

Thank you Laughing, I'll see if I can find it again tomorrow, if no one else has. :)
 
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  • #628
bbm

How do you know she was shot?
afaik LE only released she died from multiple puncture wounds to the head and chest.
And puncture wounds are not caused by bullets.
Or have there been new updates in her case?

I 100% believe she was targeted.

1 Yep, MB may have been targeted as you think - or she may have been in the wrong place when there was a different target - or she may have just been the victim of a robbery that went off the rails.
.... But unless and until we know who the perp was, it is impossible to really know why they killed her. The facts of the case can be spun in many different ways, to suit whichever way we want to guess.
2 Bullet wounds are technically considered "puncture" wounds, since they puncture the skin. It's deceptive to call them that, but technically it is accurate to do so.
3 Local LE never disclosed the cause of death, and in fact they were deliberately vague in dancing around giving an answer to such questions, ever ....
4 ...but LE records (FBI) say she was killed by gunshot. End of story. (There were long discussions you can peruse if you wish about the discovery of this info, many pages, that occurred in spring of 2020 or 2021, if you want more details. But she apparently was killed by gunshot, and it is what it is.)
 
  • #629
This case is so strange and creepy, I'm half it was targeted and half sp freaked out killed Missy during a robbery. It's all so strange how all happened, I just hope whoever did this eventually gets arrested .
 
  • #630
Still catching up! Can I ask how confident you all feel that there will be, at some point, someone arrested and charged over Missy's death?
 
  • #631
Still catching up! Can I ask how confident you all feel that there will be, at some point, someone arrested and charged over Missy's death?

Am not confident at all. Not after almost 6 years now.
 
  • #632
Still catching up! Can I ask how confident you all feel that there will be, at some point, someone arrested and charged over Missy's death?

It's possible, though it seems unlikely at this point. From what we know, the best hope is that someone comes forward.
 
  • #633
This was a targeted murder for MB that was staged to look like a robbery along with a costumed cop. Period. MOO.
 
  • #634
Reading through the documents, and the posts and blog by the former "verified insider", it sounds like she was first shot and then stabbed/ beaten with whatever tool he was carrying.
If that's the case, it makes it even more brutal, and definitely personal. Why would you hurt someone's body when you've already killed them?
jmo.
 
  • #635
Reading through the documents, and the posts and blog by the former "verified insider", it sounds like she was first shot and then stabbed/ beaten with whatever tool he was carrying.
If that's the case, it makes it even more brutal, and definitely personal. Why would you hurt someone's body when you've already killed them?
jmo.

The thought that there was something in addition to gunshot is purely speculation, not based on any known facts. There's been no statement by anyone who would know that MB was further attacked/damaged after death.

It's possible, of course. But the "tool" that was mentioned by local LE, must have been the gun the suspect was carrying, since a prybar doesn't make gunshots (and gunshot was the stated cause of death).

In fact, the one-time-insider DIRECTLY shot down the idea that there was extra damage, writing: "The pooling of blood around the body, combined with reported FBI data labeling this as a murder by handgun, suggest to me that there was no 'overkill' to this murder. I see no evidence of bludgeoning or any attempt to intentionally disfigure." He further said that the family considered having (and almost decided to have) an open casket service, because the wounds were NOT a big mess, even though at least one was to the head.

So for all we know, MB was just hit/killed by some gunshots after which the perp fled without even getting close to her.
 
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  • #636
The "verified insider" isn't one. This open casket comment is rumor as much as the two weapons comments is.
 
  • #637
The "verified insider" isn't one. This open casket comment is rumor as much as the two weapons comments is.

1 The insider was indeed verified as an insider.
2 But you are correct that they soiled their credibility, and would overstate their known info, so there's that.
3 But early on, they did share that tidbit about the funeral service that they said came direct from talking to the family. If you don't want to believe it, that's your choice.But it's a fact if we believe the insider had the knowledge he claimed.
4 However, the two-weapons comment OTOH isn't based on anyone's knowledge nor is it a "rumor" (ie, something unconfirmed supposedly said by someone in the know) but rather someone's guess from afar, purely speculative in relation to known facts, and nothing more.
 
  • #638
sbm
The thought that there was something in addition to gunshot is purely speculation
But isn't the thought that she died by gunshot only speculation also?
I do believe that is how she died, but the search warrants shows there were people who saw something else, ie, puncture wounds matching the tool (hammer or screwdriver, a gun is not called a tool, it's called a weapon). Likely caused after death, since there was no blood splatter, but "a pool of blood".
jmo
 
  • #639
sbm

But isn't the thought that she died by gunshot only speculation also?
I do believe that is how she died, but the search warrants shows there were people who saw something else, ie, puncture wounds matching the tool (hammer or screwdriver, a gun is not called a tool, it's called a weapon). Likely caused after death, since there was no blood splatter, but "a pool of blood".
jmo

1 "...isn't the thought that she died by gunshot only speculation also?" --- We know that she died by gunshot. The evidence is "the FBI said so." That is not speculation.
2 "... the search warrants shows there were people who saw something else ..."
--- SW was not offering results of bystanders who saw things, but of LE examination and conclusions, including from autopsy. But SW doesn't say death was caused by any specific weapon in particular. Instead it opts for vague descriptive terms.
3 " ...puncture wounds matching the tool (hammer or screwdriver, a gun is not called a tool, it's called a weapon)."
--- This has been discussed previously at great length. It looks like local LE wanted the public/media who were looking to be deceived by the SW wording, to lead to a lack of public understanding of the cause of death. They have NEVER, to this day, publicly elaborated on MB's cause of death, even though they said they would do so later.
--- The wording in SW appears to be used with great care. Bullets are technically "puncture wounds" though we would readily think of something different. Guns are technically "tools" to shoot something or someone, even though we don't think of them as a tool. It speaks of tools the perp is carrying, but doesn't actually say they were seen on video. Most importantly, they created the impression with their wording that this was anything but a death by gunshot, when instead that is the one and only cause of death listed in FBI records.
 
  • #640
IMO LE knows who orchestrated this hit but does not have evidence. They are patiently waiting for a slip up - they probably have listening and tracking devices planted in multiple locations.
 
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