TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

  • #381
I don't believe there were two perpetrators at the scene. It was just the one person in the SWAT uniform. On the other hand, I can believe that multiple people meticulously planned the event in advance. They were likely familiar with the church and with Missy's schedule.
 
  • #382
He is a podiatrist who is a qualified forensics witness, as in interpretation of shoe/footprints and impressions, wear patterns, gait, etc. He was to see what he could tell about the suspect. He was not convinced he could tell the gender.
He said she turned her head in a manner that indicated she heard a noise. Just a common observance, not an area of his expertise.


Alright, previous posters made this person sound like it was his specific niche.
 
  • #383
I don't believe there were two perpetrators at the scene. It was just the one person in the SWAT uniform. On the other hand, I can believe that multiple people meticulously planned the event in advance. They were likely familiar with the church and with Missy's schedule.
I also strongly believe it was a team of people, but likely only one person.

I can also believe more than one person was physically present and had to finish the job when the SWAT wearer’s initial attack was not as effective as planned.
 
  • #384
I also strongly believe it was a team of people, but likely only one person.

I can also believe more than one person was physically present and had to finish the job when the SWAT wearer’s initial attack was not as effective as planned.
What did Missy do to cause a group of people to conspire in this brutal murder?
 
  • #385
What did Missy do to cause a group of people to conspire in this brutal murder?
Someone didn’t like something she did.

Most motives fall under sex/love, money, and revenge.

I have a hot take on my “three person team” theory that may have really caused great offense to them. I can’t say it here though, sorry.
 
  • #386
Someone didn’t like something she did.

Most motives fall under sex/love, money, and revenge.

I have a hot take on my “three person team” theory that may have really caused great offense to them. I can’t say it here though, sorry.
Oh man, I hate mystery posts on threads.
 
  • #387
Oh man, I hate mystery posts on threads.
There is many cases where the motive is unclear, like Liz Barraza for instance.

Someone was upset enough with her to gun her down in her driveway (or someone was upset with her enough to have someone else carry it out).
 
  • #388
If it was a targeting killing I think it was probably one person that didn't like her for some reason. The motive could be something quite small like she flirted with a husband or a husband was infatuated with her and the wife didn't like that. A motive so small that no one would think that they committed the murder and police wouldn't be able to find any connection.

Also, how much longer before police eventually release more information that was unknown to the public? I understand keeping certain things internal but it's been so long and still no arrest. Police should consider releasing more of the video because I don't think this murder is ever getting solved without someone seeing something and realizing who it was in that costume.
 
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  • #389
If it was a targeting killing I think it was probably one person that didn't like her for some reason. The reason could be something innocuous like she flirted with a husband or a husband was infatuated with her and the wife didn't like that. A motive so small that no one would think that they committed the murder and police wouldn't be able to find any connection.
There have been some really, REALLY strange motives over the years of my true crime listening.

One man woke up the members of the house he was staying at and killed a group of people for eating his last chicken wing.

Another man killed his gracious roommate who took him in from being homeless, simply for not having toilet paper in the home.

There is of course that one guy that killed his mother over an argument about Avril Lavigne tickets.

For Missy, I have a core set of theories. A one woman show, a two person team, and a three person team. None of the teams or individuals overlap (i.e. the lone wolf wasn't part of the other teams, etc, each team has individual members and the lone wolf wasn't on any of the teams)

Both teams theories overlap in the Venn diagram of infidelity. The one woman show has a few screws loose, and I imagine her taking something someone said the wrong way and killing Missy for it, (wrongly) thinking they greatly benefited someone else and possibly expecting something in return for it.
 
  • #390
I have always thought WAY too much stock was put into the way this person walks.

This person walks like the average overweight person to me.
IMO that's why it's unusual . . . I think we all (me at least) picture a physically fit person to complete such a crime. I honestly wonder why this perp wasn't at home with a heating pad.
 
  • #391
IMO that's why it's unusual . . . I think we all (me at least) picture a physically fit person to complete such a crime. I honestly wonder why this perp wasn't at home with a heating pad.

I made a post a few threads up about the many different theories of why this person has the funny walk. (Faking, injury, poor fitting boots etc).

It has a lead to good questions, and lots of confusion. This case is like a riddle. If this person was heavy and limping, why wasn't Missy able to fight them off better? Did Missy pull her punches for some reason? Was this person faking being out of shape and faking a limp for the cameras, but in great shape and able to hurt Missy? Was it just a really well planned surprise attack? Was the person an out of shape man, and just able to overpower Missy more easily than we would expect? Did the attack not go so well at first and a second person did damage control?

There is SO much we don't know, and its clear to me that all of us interpret the footage differently as individuals.

If the plan was to limp and wear the exaggerate getup to confuse everyone, it worked!
 
  • #392
There have been some really, REALLY strange motives over the years of my true crime listening.

One man woke up the members of the house he was staying at and killed a group of people for eating his last chicken wing.

Another man killed his gracious roommate who took him in from being homeless, simply for not having toilet paper in the home.

There is of course that one guy that killed his mother over an argument about Avril Lavigne tickets.

For Missy, I have a core set of theories. A one woman show, a two person team, and a three person team. None of the teams or individuals overlap (i.e. the lone wolf wasn't part of the other teams, etc, each team has individual members and the lone wolf wasn't on any of the teams)

Both teams theories overlap in the Venn diagram of infidelity. The one woman show has a few screws loose, and I imagine her taking something someone said the wrong way and killing Missy for it, (wrongly) thinking they greatly benefited someone else and possibly expecting something in return for it.

I've witnessed women flip out threatening to kill other women just for looking at their husbands in a bar, now being drunk and planing a murder, but it's possible. Someone may have viewed her as too flirtatious or a threat o their husband had a crush on her, that's all it takes to set some people off.
 
  • #393
I've witnessed women flip out threatening to kill other women just for looking at their husbands in a bar, now being drunk and planing a murder, but it's possible. Someone may have viewed her as too flirtatious or a threat o their husband had a crush on her, that's all it takes to set some people off.
For Missy’s case in particular I go with teams motivated by infidelity, or basically one crazy lady (if not my particular crazy lady then crazy lady fueled by jealously, perceived slights, etc).

I don’t think it’s impossible she had a male stalker that planned this out, but I honestly just don’t think men would take the time or caution to go so far with the outfit and mind games. I picture a dude wearing a hat, mask, maybe bandana and dark clothing. There is many cases of women on women crimes where the killer thought it out very meticulously, and few cases of male on female crimes that had so much planning and attempts to be clever.
 
  • #394
I’m skeptical of the blue toothed team of assassins. It might be someone who most probably hoped to enter SWFA in the middle of the night, in the pouring rain for a reason that only they might respond to. Mental health is real, ya’ll. Maybe burglary? But a) who robs a gun store and b) who drives a late model Nissan sedan to rob a gun store in Texas? If so, at best, it’s a burglary curious, inexperienced burglar. Didn’t have the fortitude to enter SWFA. But they had tools with them. Curious tools they weren’t proficient in handling. But they knew of their usefulness on such occasions . So they went up the road to a church. On a “whatever” just to break in, walk around, do whatever. Again, why the hammer? What does the hammer accomplish that a prybar does not in a burglary? Hammers and prybars are givens in property renovations. But burglaries? Also a gun? Now you have a prybar a hammer and a gun. I think the hammer’s a tell. I think what happened in the church all of it was unplanned, in the moment, happenstance and it led to murder.
 
  • #395
For Missy’s case in particular I go with teams motivated by infidelity, or basically one crazy lady (if not my particular crazy lady then crazy lady fueled by jealously, perceived slights, etc).
I personally tend to believe that it is a single perpetrator whose actions may have been motivated by Missy's alleged extramarital affairs. This could have been someone in the love triangle or it could be an unrelated person thinking they were doing a favor for Brandon or the other wronged spouse.

But, I could see scenarios where it was a couple, either conspiring together in advance or one covering up for the other after the fact. Once you hit a certain age, you start to see this couple phenomenon play out in the lives of those you know. Spouse A has an affair with Third Party. Spouse B doesn't want to end the marriage so mentally they have to place all the blame on Third Party rather than Spouse A. B then loops A into a hateful acts against Third Party to make A prove their continued allegiance for B. In the words of Taylor Swift, "It's obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together," a real-life example being the Heather Elvis case in South Carolina.
 
  • #396
I personally tend to believe that it is a single perpetrator whose actions may have been motivated by Missy's alleged extramarital affairs. This could have been someone in the love triangle or it could be an unrelated person thinking they were doing a favor for Brandon or the other wronged spouse.

But, I could see scenarios where it was a couple, either conspiring together in advance or one covering up for the other after the fact. Once you hit a certain age, you start to see this couple phenomenon play out in the lives of those you know. Spouse A has an affair with Third Party. Spouse B doesn't want to end the marriage so mentally they have to place all the blame on Third Party rather than Spouse A. B then loops A into a hateful acts against Third Party to make A prove their continued allegiance for B. In the words of Taylor Swift, "It's obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together," a real-life example being the Heather Elvis case in South Carolina.

Agreed with the couples theory, Heather Elvis being a very good example. Another is Erika Stefanko manipulating her husband into killing his child’s mother, Ashley Biggs, who posed ZERO threat to her as a now lesbian woman. Stefanko was unbelievably cruel to that child too, it’s really hard to stomach knowing what she did.

I’ve noticed a lot of well planned out murders are women on women.

In almost CCTV murders with a disguised person to any extent, specifically where a woman or women are killed, there is allegations the perp could be a woman. Florence Salon, Missy, Liz Barazza, Lane Bryant murders, there is another one with a very very similar CCTV footage as Missy’s perp that never gets discussed. I forget the name but I’ll dig it up.
 
  • #397
I’m skeptical of the blue toothed team of assassins. It might be someone who most probably hoped to enter SWFA in the middle of the night, in the pouring rain for a reason that only they might respond to. Mental health is real, ya’ll. Maybe burglary? But a) who robs a gun store and b) who drives a late model Nissan sedan to rob a gun store in Texas? If so, at best, it’s a burglary curious, inexperienced burglar. Didn’t have the fortitude to enter SWFA. But they had tools with them. Curious tools they weren’t proficient in handling. But they knew of their usefulness on such occasions . So they went up the road to a church. On a “whatever” just to break in, walk around, do whatever. Again, why the hammer? What does the hammer accomplish that a prybar does not in a burglary? Hammers and prybars are givens in property renovations. But burglaries? Also a gun? Now you have a prybar a hammer and a gun. I think the hammer’s a tell. I think what happened in the church all of it was unplanned, in the moment, happenstance and it led to murder.
While recording themselves. They didn’t plan on murder. But what are they doing now? How does one emerge from murder? Where do they go? What do they do?
 
  • #398
I've witnessed women flip out threatening to kill other women just for looking at their husbands in a bar, now being drunk and planing a murder, but it's possible. Someone may have viewed her as too flirtatious or a threat o their husband had a crush on her, that's all it takes to set some people off.
Imagine a person in an anonymous to him/her church, wandering about exercising lazy dominion, losing track of time, because they’re no pro. Not experienced in actual break ins. Then reality (Missy) interrupts. With force, power and rectitude. But the interloper is disguised as an authority and is carrying weapons. If they have a gun, why use the less lethal weapons, unless you’re not planning to use them as weapons? Then they remember, they have a gun.
 
  • #399
I've witnessed women flip out threatening to kill other women just for looking at their husbands in a bar, now being drunk and planing a murder, but it's possible. Someone may have viewed her as too flirtatious or a threat o their husband had a crush on her, that's all it takes to set some people off.
imagine LE investigated any known or rumored paramours and all the exercise students IMO
 
  • #400
imagine LE investigated any known or rumored paramours and all the exercise students IMO
Yes. They probably have. And cleared them all.
 

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