TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[lonewanderer]

I think the question is, if she was an intended target, how could the perp trust she'd come in, move toward a sound and not herself be armed? Seems like a lot left to chance, including her ever coming in range. That's why, for me, I think there might be a motive that's just not readily evident. I still think it's possible she was killed because she was witness -- would've been able to identify the suspect, a suspect who didn't expect to be interrupted at all.

Jmo

I think the perp was peeping into rooms to bear determine where Missy would be, or would be going towards once she got inside.

I fully believe the perp was dressed in a fully getup like that in the off chance she was armed. It added possible protection from a firearm, but more so, from physical attacks. It kept forensics off, concealed identity, added protection and generally through confusion into the situation.

 

[Diddian]

I think the perp was peeping into rooms to bear determine where Missy would be, or would be going towards once she got inside.

I fully believe the perp was dressed in a fully getup like that in the off chance she was armed. It added possible protection from a firearm, but more so, from physical attacks. It kept forensics off, concealed identity, added protection and generally through confusion into the situation.

I'll give you that the costume could offer some protection from both injury and leaving DNA evidence; however, It also made the perp less agile. The perp moved uncomfortably in that getup and couldn't see well; he/she could likely be completely disoriented by throwing a towel or blanket over the helmet.

It was like a person wearing a tree trunk with eye holes.

 

[somequestions]

I am sold on the fact that Missy was targeted, and the person lying in wait for her was expecting her to have her hands full.

I believe they were looking for her headlights and expecting her around that time, hoping she would have her hands full. Her hands being full is a strong possibility, seeing as though she more that likely would be bringing equipment in with her. This would cause her to be much more defenseless, and it raises the likelihood that she would not bring her gun in the building with her, having her hands full and wearing workout attire.

Its blatantly obvious to me that she was targeted, and it really confuses me as to why its a discussion at all.

I do not know if it is blatantly obvious that Missy Bevers was targeted. Church burglaries do happen. My opinion is that she was targeted, but that is mostly because of how terrible this burglar is at burglarizing this church.

Knowing certain information too would help greatly in coming to personal conclusions about this case. Did the burglar spend more time in the church offices than other rooms? Did the burglar scratch the safe, if the church had a safe in the church office, to try to get to the money?

Non-targeted theorists make a good point that there is no way anyone could predict exactly when Missy Bevers would arrive, but it is interesting that the burglar just happens to be looking at the surveillance camera over the entrance where Missy Bevers would later enter the church at around 3:58 am, the earliest time according to people who knew Missy Bevers, that she would enter the church at 4 am.

I think it is targeted because whoever it was that murdered Missy Bevers seems to be really bad at committing a burglary. My opinion is that a decent burglar is going to try to check to see if the church doors happen to be open first before breaking a window and making noise. But like so many cases people do strange things so this is only my opinion.

 

[lonewanderer]

I do not know if it is blatantly obvious that Missy Bevers was targeted. Church burglaries do happen. My opinion is that she was targeted, but that is mostly because of how terrible this burglar is at burglarizing this church.

Knowing certain information too would help greatly in coming to personal conclusions about this case. Did the burglar spend more time in the church offices than other rooms? Did the burglar scratch the safe, if the church had a safe in the church office, to try to get to the money?

Non-targeted theorists make a good point that there is no way anyone could predict exactly when Missy Bevers would arrive, but it is interesting that the burglar just happens to be looking at the surveillance camera over the entrance where Missy Bevers would later enter the church at around 3:58 am, the earliest time according to people who knew Missy Bevers, that she would enter the church at 4 am.

I think it is targeted because whoever it was that murdered Missy Bevers seems to be really bad at committing a burglary. My opinion is that a decent burglar is going to try to check to see if the church doors happen to be open first before breaking a window and making noise. But like so many cases people do strange things so this is only my opinion.

If we knew who killed her, we would have a much better idea if it was a stranger or someone she knew.

The ridiculous getup that concealed identity, added protection, and kept forensics off is almost enough to sell me on its own. A “LARPer” or “burglar” would be walking around like THAT, with no loot bag and not looking for anything in particular?

They just so happen to be at that specific church at that specific time, dressed like that?

They enter the kitchen, the logical last place Missy would enter, around the time Missy is expected to be there?

I just can’t be sold on any of the points of it being random. The one thing I agree with is that the person who killed Missy, wisely didn’t take anything. This fact can be logically debated from both sides of the opinion.

 

[somequestions]

If we knew who killed her, we would have a much better idea if it was a stranger or someone she knew.

The ridiculous getup that concealed identity, added protection, and kept forensics off is almost enough to sell me on its own. A “LARPer” or “burglar” would be walking around like THAT, with no loot bag and not looking for anything in particular?

They just so happen to be at that specific church at that specific time, dressed like that?

They enter the kitchen, the logical last place Missy would enter, around the time Missy is expected to be there?

I just can’t be sold on any of the points of it being random. The one thing I agree with is that the person who killed Missy, wisely didn’t take anything. This fact can be logically debated from both sides of the opinion.

If it was a burglar, it certainly appears to be an amateur. They go to all that trouble to hide their physical identity, but then drive to the church parking lot and do not think about the possibility that a surveillance camera on the outside could capture their vehicle's license plate number. This is even stranger if the car driving around SWFA is involved. If the surveillance camera image were a little closer, someone would have been able to make out the license plate number at SWFA. Maybe the burglar was driving a rented vehicle, but even that could be traced back.

I also agree about the time. I find it a little strange this burglar waited until approximately 4 am in the morning. That was unnecessary. What would be going on at the church after midnight? What time did it start raining?

Even at 4 am, sometimes cleaning people or other older individuals like to go into work early to start. I sometimes wonder if the other place where Missy Bevers held her workouts, Midlothian Conference Center, does not hold some clue about this crime. I think what makes the case interesting is how strange it is compared to others.

 

[Lubilu]

They enter the kitchen, the logical last place Missy would enter, around the time Missy is expected to be there?

Could I ask why the kitchen would have been the logical last place to enter? I may have missed something.

 

[lonewanderer]

Could I ask why the kitchen would have been the logical last place to enter? I may have missed something.

If I was making a highly thought out plan to eliminate Missy, and I wasn’t 110% sure what door she was entering the church from, I would plan to enter through the kitchen, which to me, seems like the least likely place she would be entering.

 

[somequestions]

I think it is the tactical outfit that is one of the most interesting aspects of this case. A person can hide their identity without going to all that trouble. Maybe they were also trying to hide their body shape too?

The church office may have been what the burglar was looking for and could not find the money. Even if it was only a burglary gone wrong, then how can this case be solved?

If Missy Bevers was shot maybe police got the caliber bullet and the type of gun used to try to trace it? If the vehicle seen driving around SWFA was involved, then maybe getting a list of people who might have bought that type of gun there in the past month might lead somewhere if someone who purchased that type of gun also owns a 2010 - 2012 Nissan Altima. Sometimes even when there is surveillance video, a case can be hard to solve.

 

[Springrain]

JMO I truly don't think there is a chance it was not targeted but that is 100% just my own opinion.
Church burglaries do happen, but I don't think dressing up in fake SWAT gear makes any sense for robbing a church. I also don't think that anyone would feel bothered enough over Missy having workout classes on church property to go to these extents to kill her. 100% JMO.

 

[lonewanderer]

I think it is the tactical outfit that is one of the most interesting aspects of this case. A person can hide their identity without going to all that trouble. Maybe they were also trying to hide their body shape too?

The church office may have been what the burglar was looking for and could not find the money. Even if it was only a burglary gone wrong, then how can this case be solved?

If Missy Bevers was shot maybe police got the caliber bullet and the type of gun used to try to trace it? If the vehicle seen driving around SWFA was involved, then maybe getting a list of people who might have bought that type of gun there in the past month might lead somewhere if someone who purchased that type of gun also owns a 2010 - 2012 Nissan Altima. Sometimes even when there is surveillance video, a case can be hard to solve.

As for body shape, there was a persons name floating around who happened to be pregnant at the time, pregnant with a specific complication that made them waddle and stumble unbalanced. Some people have suggested the gear helped conceal and protect the baby bump. It has also made me wonder if Missy didn’t fight back QUITE as hard right away trying not to harm a pregnant woman.

 

[somequestions]

I noticed something in the Creekside church surveillance video that I thought was interesting. When the burglar first comes out of the kitchen area door and into the hallway, their headlamp light is off. When they broke into the church door to enter that kitchen area, how could they see once they got inside?

 

[lonewanderer]

I noticed something in the Creekside church surveillance video that I thought was interesting. When the burglar first comes out of the kitchen area door and into the hallway, their headlamp light is off. When they broke into the church door to enter that kitchen area, how could they see once they got inside?

They could have just turned it off once they left the kitchen and saw light?

One thing I do find odd about the footage is the mystery white object (the rectangular white object the perp is holding when they are hitting the glass), not because of what it is, but because of the way it appears.

When the perp is walking down the hall with their headlamp on, I see them do what seems like THE only tiny bit of sense of urgency in the whole video. They make a kind of like "ah HAH! there is it!" face as they move over to the door quicklier than usual. I also notice them put their hand up to their face, similar to a salute, as if they are looking at something that they need to block light for or are seeing from a ways away and trying to focus.

The clip after this is when the perp is busting the glass, with the mystery object in hand.

 

[FromGermany1]

I wonder, if the bullets, that killed Liz Barraza in January 2019, were identical to the bullet, which killed Missy.

Can we assume, that LE would confirm it publicly, IF it were the case?

 

[lonewanderer]

I wonder, if the bullets, that killed Liz Barraza in January 2019, were identical to the bullet, which killed Missy.

Can we assume, that LE would confirm it publicly, IF it were the case?

I don’t think there is any connection, at all.

Lizs case is MUCH more like Kaitlyn Armstrong, who shot Mo Wilson at her home, twice in the stomach and once in the head, circled the block to see MO’s body, and then was caught on Ring doorbell with her distinctive Jeep, oh, in Texas of all places.

I don’t think that case is connected to Liz’s but has extremely similar circumstances.

 

[Springrain]

I wonder, if the bullets, that killed Liz Barraza in January 2019, were identical to the bullet, which killed Missy.

Can we assume, that LE would confirm it publicly, IF it were the case?

Missy wasn't killed by a bullet. She died of puncture wounds. 7 years, no arrests: Where does the Missy Bevers murder case stand?

I don't think the cases are connected at all IMO though similar.

 

[lonewanderer]

Missy wasn't killed by a bullet. She died of puncture wounds. 7 years, no arrests: Where does the Missy Bevers murder case stand?

I don't think the cases are connected at all IMO though similar.

Allegedly, there was a firearm found and Missy was shot. This came to light after a database search displayed a woman Missy’s age died of a gunshot wound on the same date Missy was murdered. This detail has always been murky to me, so take it with a grain of salt.

Gunshot wounds are “punctures” too, for the most part, and I have wondered what exactly constitutes a firearm puncture/wound. Is firearm limited to manufactured weapons? Or could it be homemade? Or could it be something really abstract like No Country For Old Men where the villain uses an air bolted cattle weapon? A harpoon/crossbow etc?

This detail has always been been confusing to me, and in official reports, it’s always referred to as “tools consistent with what the person on footage was using” (or something very similar).

I’ve also wondered if the puncture wounds were there from the perp extracting the bullets themselves with the tools they brought with them.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Missy wasn't killed by a bullet.

The FBI stats show otherwise. You'll have to look back thru the threads to see the documentation, it's been reposted a number of times. MOO

I’ve also wondered if the puncture wounds were there from the perp extracting the bullets themselves with the tools they brought with them.

The killer wouldn't have had enough time and would have left a trail/footprints of blood with that kind of contact with her body (digging out bullets). Knowing the location of entrance wounds does not give the location of the bullet in the body.
It was only a few minutes from the time she was killed to the arrival of the boot camp participants.

 

[lonewanderer]

The FBI stats show otherwise. You'll have to look back thru the threads to see the documentation, it's been reposted a number of times. MOO

The killer wouldn't have had enough time and would have left a trail/footprints of blood with that kind of contact with her body (digging out bullets). Knowing the location of entrance wounds does not give the location of the bullet in the body.
It was only a few minutes from the time she was killed to the arrival of the boot camp participants.

The FBI database search has been hotly debated for a while. There is some people who believe it isn’t Missy and/or the info doesn’t match her. Lordon Arts was who I saw use that database and he seemed super surprised when it said she died by gunshot wound.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

The FBI database search has been hotly debated for a while. There is some people who believe it isn’t Missy and/or the info doesn’t match her. Lordon Arts was who I saw use that database and he seemed super surprised when it said she died by gunshot wound.

I have not seen any confusion about the FBI information and have not seen it "hotly debated" on WS. There was no other person who was murdered that would account for the entry. Logic and process of elimination make it quite clear, in my opinion, which murder is for the gunshot data. A few people on WS not accepting the documentation, should see if they can find a murder, other than this one, that the gunshot information could apply to. No one, so far, has claimed on WS that that information is for a different, specific victim of a fatal gunshot. Also, please find the murder of MB on the database if you believe there was no firearm involved. MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

I don’t think there is any connection, at all.

Lizs case is MUCH more like Kaitlyn Armstrong, who shot Mo Wilson at her home, twice in the stomach and once in the head, circled the block to see MO’s body, and then was caught on Ring doorbell with her distinctive Jeep, oh, in Texas of all places.

I don’t think that case is connected to Liz’s but has extremely similar circumstances.

bbm

Connected possibly, if it had been a professional killer, who has his unique style of killing wives (maybe only in TX, maybe beyond the borders). Speculation. MOO