I think the mannerisms and behaviour of the perpetrator was an act, it was a performance, I think they knew the cameras were there and they had thought about how they would present themselves before they ever entered the church,
Ok so this narrows it down to Websleuth users. Now we’re getting somewhere.
I do agree that things tend to be much more simple than we imagine or discuss in many cases.
I think that would be the BEST hold back evidence if there were 2 perps dressed similarly or even if one is never seen on camera OR the video of the second one is never released. I think the way that person wanders like they have zero cares in the world could be becasue there was a person watching the parking lot as a look out. I don't believe we have any video of the kitchen area. I am not really sold on any one theory, but I do think LE has held back things and it would be incredible if one of those things is the evidence of there being 2 perps.I don’t want to break forum rules (or basic online decorum), but there’s reasons why I’m doubtful it was a woman over a romantic thing. In other words, I’m somewhat discounting this was a woman who was killing out of jealous rage over a real or perceived fling the victim had with a man. I’ll leave it to those reading this to get the subtext I’m putting down.
Since the above is the main scenario I can see where a woman would be the perp, I’m leaning towards man. I’m skeptical about the multiple perp theory, as I think we’d be aware of evidence for this possibility (of which I’m unaware of).
Of course, all of this is online conjecture and there’s a excellent chance that I’m completely wrong.
It certainly would make some sense of how that person is wandering around if they had a look out of sorts somewhere. It could even be someone not in the church at all, but someone parked watching the church for cars to enter and relaying the info. Heck there could be a person waiting in a car in the church parking lot for all we know. We don't know how the perp arrived or left the church. If in a car than who's to say a second person wasn't watching out from the car. That person on camera isn't even looking around like they are trying to hide. They seem to stroll around with confidence that they won't be caught. Maybe it's all the TV shows that show burglars sneaking around that makes this seem odd to me. lol
If I remember well, LE didn't show the whole video surveillance, but only part of it, saying that the strolling by the SP would be the same and not interesting. My wording, sorry. How can it be, that the shown surveillance is interesting and full of details, we (at least WSers) noticed, and the other part of surveillance has nothing to offer, what may be some important mannerism or some important gestures or some objects or just something like that? I wonder for a long time now.
I believe the victim posted the night before she would be there by 4AM to set up. And also that the training session would go ahead regardless of weather, and if rain, they would move inside. So if the perp was stalking, they too could have seen that post, knowing of the victim's arrival by 4AMI found only one little snippet of video with a timestamp.
This article was written the next day and the video shows a timestamp of 03:58:22 am. I don't think the perp expected the victim to arrive at 4 am.Woman allegedly murdered at church by suspect wearing police SWAT gear
A Texas mother of three, Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, was found dead on Monday morning inside of a church where she teaches a fitness class. CCTV captured a suspect wearing SWAT gear.www.dailymail.co.uk
Now, I wish to see more video whit timestamps.
Do you think the perp would have still gone through with the killing if it was not raining and the class was outdoors?
Doubt it. If that person in the police gear was the perp, they're morbidly obese, and I'd say there is 0% chance they could have caught or cornered a fitness instructor outside...if the weapon was a gun, they might have pulled it off, but not, I believe, with a hammer or other weapon. Then again, if they were dressed in "police" uniform, they might have been able to get close enough for a strike/stab--now I'm unravelling my own theories, lol.
Sorry this is a bit vague of a recollection, but I believe I heard a couple years ago that there was video of the encounter between the perp and victim, but it was from a different angle, different camera, and that the police for some reason did not release that one--and still have not
It’s possible the perpetrator guessed she would have a gun. Which she did, it just wasn’t on her. I’m still more inclined to think this was targeted, but being it was in Texas and a woman alone in the early morning, I think fearing she had a weapon on her might be instinctive.
Agreed it can and often is the simplest answer that wins out. So what's simplest here--that someone was there just to rob, and got surprised by the victim's arrival? This chubby possible perp certainly doesn't seem to be rage driven at all, just shufflin' around, breakin stuff windows I think they did as well? So I'll jump to this conclusion--the perp, if it's the one in the gear, was not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Why break windows, which makes noise and maybe sets off alarms? Not necessary. Seems more intent on mischief not murder. Possible simple explanation: they had a half-baked idea to go in with XXXL uniform that says "Police"--who would fall for that?--and see what they could find. They get surprised, and because they aint too bright, they unnecessarily get violent instead of just leaving. That helmet also looks comically bad--looks like the ones that California motor cops wear. Would it shed anylight if you frame it is: kiler was really dumb. Serious question--would such a framing be of any benefit?
Yes, juvenile. I was also thinking, just really, well, dumb. Like really dumb. Like I posted below--who would fall for that fake XXXL sized "police" get up? Anyone? And what appears to be a motorcycle cop helmet? Indoors, at night? Immediately signals to anyone of average intelligence: "I am NOT a real cop" Anyone who came across that character, at 4AM, would be suspicious, if not back away, or run away--I would. The fake uniform is so bad, you have to wonder, what kind of person would even think it had a chance of seeming legit? But apparently the perp did, because they decided to wear it. That also points to: not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I posted similar below, but police say death was by "puncture wounds" but I believe that hammer was too big to cause puncture wounds. Crush? Sure. Puncture? No. Looks like a kind of mini-sledge, say like a 3 pound hammer. I believe I also heard the hammer was recovered by police.
If it was targeted, wouldn't they have been more 'business like' rather than, just sort of shufflin' around--if indeed the person in the comically bad "police uniform" is indeed the perp? Agree that it's likely that a woman at night in TX might be armed. Why do you think it was targeted?
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