TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

  • #1,001
She sure does! I didn't catch it the first time somehow.

If she was shot it would stand to reason that there would be shell casing(s). Unless the killer used a revolver.
Terri "Missy" Bevers was found dead inside Creekside Church of Christ just before 5 a.m. Police have not released her cause of death, but a search warrant released Thursday says she died from a "head wound" and the killer used an "unknown instrument."
 
  • #1,002
She sure does! I didn't catch it the first time somehow.

If she was shot it would stand to reason that there would be shell casing(s). Unless the killer used a revolver.
Or if the killer removed them from Missy's body after he shot her, as some have speculated, I believe.
 
  • #1,003
Or if the killer removed them from Missy's body after he shot her, as some have speculated, I believe.
The search warrant would've specifically indicated a gun, casings, etc, rather than "unknown instrument" as the murder weapon if she died from a gunshot, imo.

jmo
 
  • #1,004
The search warrant would've specifically indicated a gun, casings, etc, rather than "unknown instrument" as the murder weapon if she died from a gunshot, imo.

jmo
I was under the impression she died from blunt force injuries.
 
  • #1,005
I think John Lordan (LordanARTS on YouTube) was the one to discover that her death was listed as being a homicide by handgun on Murderdata, not sure how accurate that website is.
 
  • #1,006
I think John Lordan (LordanARTS on YouTube) was the one to discover that her death was listed as being a homicide by handgun on Murderdata, not sure how accurate that website is
FWIW, bbm

Terri "Missy" Bevers was found dead inside Creekside Church of Christ just before 5 a.m. Police have not released her cause of death, but a search warrant released Thursday says she died from a "head wound" and the killer used an "unknown instrument."
 
  • #1,007
Yes, that's true for a claw hammer. But it doesn't look like a claw hammer. Looks more like a 3-5 lb. mini sledge hammer. Video quality is poor, but the head of the hammer definitely looks bigger than a typical claw hammer. And if it was a claw hammer, doesn't seem likely the perp would use that side to attack--the claw side--although if there was a struggle, anything's possible. I believe LE also said a hammer was recovered from the scene. In the video, there does appear to be a slight taper on one end of the hammer head. Two mini sledge photos attached.
I think anything is possible in the frenzy/rage that may be present during an attack. I had a patient several years ago that was attacked by someone with a hammer and the claw-end was used. Ironically it was the use of the claw- end of the hammer that allowed him to survive long enough to make it to the hospital and undergo surgery, though he unfortunately didn’t survive the day. The use of the claw-end essentially created “burr holes” that allowed the brain to swell without herniation.
 
  • #1,008
Allegedly, the mystery white object may be a random plastic thing for holding small objects like pencils, fishing tackle, that kind of stuff. A speculation I read once said it was full of nuts and bolts and random pieces like that, that the prop picked up in a room.

I have racked my brain a million times and the object looks so familiar but I just can’t place what it is.
The quality of the video makes it tough to really see the items clearly but some of you may have had better success by enlarging, slowing, screenshots, etc. I don’t know what the white-looking thing is, but I wondered if it could be a silver-colored flashlight that reflects light making it appear white.

I also think at about the 42 second mark where someone said it looks like they may be checking a phone that it looks like they are trying different keys on a key ring to try to open the door.

It also looks like they push the helmet up at one point so it seems likely that the helmet was too big (therefore it was not really their helmet).
 
  • #1,009
It's definitely suspicious activity given the timing and proximity:

I’m sure the police/investigators did this (I hope) - checked for camera footage from businesses, homes & traffic cameras in a widening circle around the church to see if the car was caught on camera at another location in which the license plate and/or driver was more visible because they were less careful thinking that they were away from the scene. Police in my area recently caught a robbery suspect that altered/hid his license plates (my state requires front & back plates) and his identity during the course of an armed robbery. After the robbery he went to a convenience store in the next town over and bought cigarettes (WITHOUT his license plate or his face being covered) and got carded by the clerk because he looked younger than 21 yrs old. Police were able to ID him from that camera footage and matched the car and suspect to the robbery footage and made an arrest.
 
  • #1,010
I noticed the driver used their turn signal even when exiting the parking lot. To me it seems an odd thing to do if you are getting ready to break into a building. Like I'll break into a church but I'm not going to turn without using my blinker. I guess it could just be muscle memory but it makes me lean towards it not being the murderer. It looks to me more like someone being taught to learn how to drive.
I feel like the driver did it out of habit, which IMO makes it more likely that this person isn’t someone who is used to committing crimes. If this is true, IMO this makes it more likely that this was a targeted attack.
 
  • #1,011
Agree. They are affiliated with that church in some way.

Amateur opinion and speculation
That could be why the person didn’t really damage the Church - they care about it, even if sadly they didn’t have the same care for Missy.
 
  • #1,012
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  • #1,013
For that matter, do they allow musical instruments? I know that equipment is expensive and probably a target for burglars at some churches.
They might; but it's also just as likely that for any instruments that can be carried, the instrumentalists who play them probably (a), own them; and would (b), pack them in and out after they played them, with the possible exception of something unwieldy like a drum kit that might get left there as a matter of course; but that drum kit problem makes it the same PITA for a thief to move them in and out, or sell it on the open market.

There's always the weekly collection plate I suppose, or maybe some special hype event with a group signup and participation fee; and I suppose we can't rule out that the church might have recorded their services or had a different need for fancy a/v equipment.
 
  • #1,014
Did the investigation keep the church closed to the public for a while, if so, would that have caused any wedding cancellations?
 
  • #1,015
Question:

Has anyone else ever heard of a “bang stick?”

Apparently it is used to killer alligators and it comes in multiple sizes of ammunition.

I have wondered if something outside the box like this was used to kill Missy. I also think it’s likely the perp was manipulating (loading, assembling, piecing together) a long black object when they had it on the door and was not trying to pry it open.

Just made me wonder…
 
  • #1,016
"I do agree that Missy, as a victim was random, but I do not believe that particular church was random at all." -- In some way, that has to be true, because Loser Perp didn't just walk down the street and saunter into this church. He did pick to be there. The problem we have is in knowing why they picked this particular church and at this specific night, and we probably have to first know who did it and why to answer that question of why they picked it. Was it the location, some perceived ease of access or egress or of being undiscovered, some connection to the church, some info LP knew that made him think this was an easy or good place to get into, was it MB that drew him there, was it somehow originally picked at random, or some other reason we just don't consider? We can't objectively eliminate any of those, other than just using our own "bias" to decide on an answer and work from there, sad to say.

"I’m sure the police/investigators ... checked for camera footage from businesses, homes & traffic cameras in a widening circle around the church to see if the car was caught on camera at another location in which the license plate and/or driver was more visible because they were less careful thinking that they were away from the scene." --- Yes they did. The challenge is that even if someone caught the perp's car on camera, the limits of technology make it virtually impossible to make out the license of a car going 60 mph or so, and it was raining, and the road is a good ways from any camera. Even in the video of the car at SWFA across the street that night, going 5-10 mph, up close, and stopping at times, the license was illegible. LE tried, however, every place up and down that highway for quite a ways. Unfortunately, with such a highway, perp could easily have been 30 or more miles away before stopping, and before the murder was discovered, as there is quick access to multiple interstate-style highways (including US 287, US 67, I-35, I-20, and I-45) in less time than that.

"Did the investigation keep the church closed to the public for a while...?" --- Nope, LE was only there for a day or two, during which time they gathered whatever evidence they needed, and then the church was back in full service.

"I have wondered if something outside the box like this was used to kill Missy." --- Nope, it was a handgun that killed her. Plain and simple. There is no mystery to unravel. LE saw the body up close, saw the wounds, there was a full autopsy, and LE went looking for ammo sales in prior days hoping to get lucky on perp buying the ammo (which should make it clear what they knew). The FBI records (they were there from the outset to aid the investigation, as was ATF and other LE groups) recorded the murder's "Weapon" as "Handgun - pistol, revolver, etc". The murderdata.org site obtained their info from the FBI's public files. I have personally seen the FBI files too, multiple times (but not a user-friendly setup or search engine, it took many hours each time of pure trial-and-error to get there, so I finally decided never again), which is accessible if you have the patience to wade through their setup.

LE literally refused to comment on how she was killed, saying they would talk about that later, then never doing so, even to this day. That speaks volumes. In two early SWs they speak of vaguely of tools, and an unknown instrument (of death), with one also mentioning puncture wounds, but never actually say directly how she was killed, and imo they were trying to mislead the curious without actually lying, to keep under wraps that she was shot. Technically, a gun is a tool for shooting people, and a bullet wound punctures the skin. The discovery of the FBI records let the cat out of the bag, but LE still isn't asked about it afaik, and I suspect they would decline to answer if asked.

"The search warrant would've specifically indicated a gun, casings, etc, rather than "unknown instrument" as the murder weapon if she died from a gunshot" --- Obviously not true, since the FBI records the murder weapon was indeed a handgun.

But in relation to this SW's wording, LE (imo) hastily covered more than they really needed to, and so in order to keep facts behind their curtain, it appears they fuzzied some detail as they did so. This was their 1st SW, asking for permission to search MB's vehicle she arrived in (because she was found murdered) for anything that might give them a clue as to what happened and why. How she was murdered didn't matter at all (for purposes of getting a SW to look in her car), and it's enlightening that all the warrants obtained after that one and one other (those 2 were in the 1st 36 hours) basically said NOTHING about the death other than it was a murder being investigated and describing the perp as seen in the video. You can even look at the SW's and see how the first couple were slapped together hastily, with part of them hand-written, with mark-throughs, and sloppy wording. But I think they got some training as they went, because after that the SW's were professional, with polished content, formal affidavits attached (which removed any need to say much about the murder itself, and only in repeated, precise, finely crafted wording), and so on.

One note to keep in mind about all the various SWs - they are each written in a way that recites "facts" that may actually be nothing more than guesses, or possibilities being explored, but offering them up in a way that makes them sound concrete and that justifies the search being requested at that time. The next SW might say just the opposite, chasing a different suspect or angle. The ones in this case contain a graveyard of ideas and since-disproven theories of the crime. Reader beware.
 
  • #1,017
In two early SWs they speak of vaguely of tools, and an unknown instrument (of death), with one also mentioning puncture wounds, but never actually say directly how she was killed, and imo they were trying to mislead the curious without actually lying, to keep under wraps that she was shot.
But why would they do that? Guns aren't exactly rare in Texas, so why to hide that? I've never seen a case in my life where the LE would hide from the public that the victim was shot. And saying Missy died from the puncture wounds while she died from gunshot wounds would be actively lying.
 
  • #1,018
"I do agree that Missy, as a victim was random, but I do not believe that particular church was random at all." -- In some way, that has to be true, because Loser Perp didn't just walk down the street and saunter into this church. He did pick to be there. The problem we have is in knowing why they picked this particular church and at this specific night, and we probably have to first know who did it and why to answer that question of why they picked it. Was it the location, some perceived ease of access or egress or of being undiscovered, some connection to the church, some info LP knew that made him think this was an easy or good place to get into, was it MB that drew him there, was it somehow originally picked at random, or some other reason we just don't consider? We can't objectively eliminate any of those, other than just using our own "bias" to decide on an answer and work from there, sad to say.

"I’m sure the police/investigators ... checked for camera footage from businesses, homes & traffic cameras in a widening circle around the church to see if the car was caught on camera at another location in which the license plate and/or driver was more visible because they were less careful thinking that they were away from the scene." --- Yes they did. The challenge is that even if someone caught the perp's car on camera, the limits of technology make it virtually impossible to make out the license of a car going 60 mph or so, and it was raining, and the road is a good ways from any camera. Even in the video of the car at SWFA across the street that night, going 5-10 mph, up close, and stopping at times, the license was illegible. LE tried, however, every place up and down that highway for quite a ways. Unfortunately, with such a highway, perp could easily have been 30 or more miles away before stopping, and before the murder was discovered, as there is quick access to multiple interstate-style highways (including US 287, US 67, I-35, I-20, and I-45) in less time than that.

"Did the investigation keep the church closed to the public for a while...?" --- Nope, LE was only there for a day or two, during which time they gathered whatever evidence they needed, and then the church was back in full service.

"I have wondered if something outside the box like this was used to kill Missy." --- Nope, it was a handgun that killed her. Plain and simple. There is no mystery to unravel. LE saw the body up close, saw the wounds, there was a full autopsy, and LE went looking for ammo sales in prior days hoping to get lucky on perp buying the ammo (which should make it clear what they knew). The FBI records (they were there from the outset to aid the investigation, as was ATF and other LE groups) recorded the murder's "Weapon" as "Handgun - pistol, revolver, etc". The murderdata.org site obtained their info from the FBI's public files. I have personally seen the FBI files too, multiple times (but not a user-friendly setup or search engine, it took many hours each time of pure trial-and-error to get there, so I finally decided never again), which is accessible if you have the patience to wade through their setup.

LE literally refused to comment on how she was killed, saying they would talk about that later, then never doing so, even to this day. That speaks volumes. In two early SWs they speak of vaguely of tools, and an unknown instrument (of death), with one also mentioning puncture wounds, but never actually say directly how she was killed, and imo they were trying to mislead the curious without actually lying, to keep under wraps that she was shot. Technically, a gun is a tool for shooting people, and a bullet wound punctures the skin. The discovery of the FBI records let the cat out of the bag, but LE still isn't asked about it afaik, and I suspect they would decline to answer if asked.

"The search warrant would've specifically indicated a gun, casings, etc, rather than "unknown instrument" as the murder weapon if she died from a gunshot" --- Obviously not true, since the FBI records the murder weapon was indeed a handgun.

But in relation to this SW's wording, LE (imo) hastily covered more than they really needed to, and so in order to keep facts behind their curtain, it appears they fuzzied some detail as they did so. This was their 1st SW, asking for permission to search MB's vehicle she arrived in (because she was found murdered) for anything that might give them a clue as to what happened and why. How she was murdered didn't matter at all (for purposes of getting a SW to look in her car), and it's enlightening that all the warrants obtained after that one and one other (those 2 were in the 1st 36 hours) basically said NOTHING about the death other than it was a murder being investigated and describing the perp as seen in the video. You can even look at the SW's and see how the first couple were slapped together hastily, with part of them hand-written, with mark-throughs, and sloppy wording. But I think they got some training as they went, because after that the SW's were professional, with polished content, formal affidavits attached (which removed any need to say much about the murder itself, and only in repeated, precise, finely crafted wording), and so on.

One note to keep in mind about all the various SWs - they are each written in a way that recites "facts" that may actually be nothing more than guesses, or possibilities being explored, but offering them up in a way that makes them sound concrete and that justifies the search being requested at that time. The next SW might say just the opposite, chasing a different suspect or angle. The ones in this case contain a graveyard of ideas and since-disproven theories of the crime. Reader beware.
This sounds as if the weapon used was a weapon, which LE also are using and they didn't want to admit it ..... saying, the murder was done by the SP "with a tool, he carried around" and which caused "puncture wounds" to the chest. MOO
 
  • #1,019
But why would they do that? Guns aren't exactly rare in Texas, so why to hide that? I've never seen a case in my life where the LE would hide from the public that the victim was shot. And saying Missy died from the puncture wounds while she died from gunshot wounds would be actively lying.
I think LE didn't know at first what caused the wounds. Maybe they later figured it out, but maybe not. The autopsy would determine the characteristics of the wound and perhaps they could work backwards from that info to figure out the weapon.

It's my hunch the weapon is either an object not intended to be a weapon or it's a rarely-used weapon.

But, with no movement on the case, if LE knew the weapon, it would be beneficial to state is as it could trigger tips, especially if it's unusual. imo

Would Missy have been carrying a heavy piece of equipment for her class that could've been used?

jmopinion
 
  • #1,020
Could the murder weapon be a replica gun? Attacked with but never fired?

It would fit with the elaborate costume.

It could fit with the wording of the SW.

It might fit with an unplanned attack.

It might fit with puncture wounds.

It would be a weapon and a tool.

Is it possible that LE has audio but has only released video?

Wounds match a gun but no weapon ever fired?

JMO TOL

(Just My Opinion, Thinking Out Loud)
 

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