TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[RobertCatesby]

One of the worst possible motives I have ever thought of was one of the campers taking Missy’s life simply so they would not have to come to the early morning workouts.

I have wondered if there was any campers who were more or less mandated to be there by a husband who insisted they lose weight or get divorced.

Was there any campers who were not accounted for that morning either?

Were any of the campers a woman, married to or in a relationship with another woman who may have been jealous of or suspicious of Missy?

This or something similar, while obviously quite unlikely, is indeed fairly plausible and has been discussed before. In Tom Webster's video on the case, he brought up a similar theory and one point that the killer could have been a camper who had been shamed by Missy for being being lazy during the sessions, or, like you stated, wasn't a fan of the 5 AM start times. It that case, it wouldn't really make sense to use the whole tactical getup instead of something similar, but that really applies regardless of the motive.

 

[FromGermany1]

One of the worst possible motives I have ever thought of was one of the campers taking Missy’s life simply so they would not have to come to the early morning workouts.

I have wondered if there was any campers who were more or less mandated to be there by a husband who insisted they lose weight or get divorced.

Was there any campers who were not accounted for that morning either?

Were any of the campers a woman, married to or in a relationship with another woman who may have been jealous of or suspicious of Missy?

bbm

 

[FromGermany1]

I thought that the timing worked out such that the first early arrival would have shown up AFTER she was killed. I thought it was very SOON after, but after.

In fact, I remember thinking that it was so soon after that I thought it was a miracle that the perp was able to escape unseen by whoever arrived first. Which also made me speculate that possibly the killer could have quickly changed clothes, put them into a gym bag, put on workout clothes, and joined the group of exercisers as they arrived, blending in as one of them. But I don't think this was targeted at Missy, so I don't think much of that theory.

Same thoughts here, but with a difference: I believe, Missy was targeted. Or was it Camp Gladiator, who was targeted?? - Have there ever been changes in the Gladiator system after this murder? Locations, training times, participating members (who is entitled when and where to participate), something like that?

 

[squareandrabbet]

I don’t buy the LARP theory for a number of reasons, but there is some theories I’ve heard that could put that person there for other reasons and not targeting Missy, such as the sporting goods store being the perps actual target but going to the church after being scared off by cars in the parking lot.

If there was no real accountability of who was there and who wasn’t there for the camp, this opens up a lot of possibilities. Very interesting.

But the person isn't a cop or security guard (that we know of yet), so if not a LARPing scenario, why the costume?... the costume is disturbing.

IMO, this gives us a Golden State Killer escalating type of scenario no matter how we slice it, as most people who dress up like a security guard would be doing so to blend in; and if you're trying to blend in it seems you would like to get your business over with as soon as possible so you can get on back to your hidey-hole and shed your costume.

So in order to be this casual, IMO the person would have to have been practiced at it; and we haven't heard anything about people in the neighboring community being suspicious of or terrorized by a figure in security gear using it to creepy-crawl all over town yet/before... s/he doesn't seem scared; and to know confidently that being tracked around the church isn't a problem, I would think you would have to be familiar with the church at minimum, and familiar with creeping around like a creep for overarching purposes; so the idea that someone would be all "I think I'll give up the sporting goods store and switch to a church!", still takes some guts on their part.

 

[lonewanderer]

But the person isn't a cop or security guard (that we know of yet), so if not a LARPing scenario, why the costume?... the costume is disturbing.

IMO, this gives us a Golden State Killer escalating type of scenario no matter how we slice it, as most people who dress up like a security guard would be doing so to blend in; and if you're trying to blend in it seems you would like to get your business over with as soon as possible so you can get on back to your hidey-hole and shed your costume.

So in order to be this casual, IMO the person would have to have been practiced at it; and we haven't heard anything about people in the neighboring community being suspicious of or terrorized by a figure in security gear using it to creepy-crawl all over town yet/before... s/he doesn't seem scared; and to know confidently that being tracked around the church isn't a problem, I would think you would have to be familiar with the church at minimum, and familiar with creeping around like a creep for overarching purposes; so the idea that someone would be all "I think I'll give up the sporting goods store and switch to a church!", still takes some guts on their part.

I personally think Missy was targeted and the costume was to conceal identity, keep forensics off (such as DNA under Missys nails) add a layer of protection from kicks and punches. (I doubt the getup was an actual Kevlar helmet and probably not Kevlar body armor so I don’t think it was intended to protect against Missy’s gun. Missy was also setting up for a class with equipment likely in her hands so the likelihood of her carrying the gun on her was very slim) and to throw general chaos and confusion into the case.

I do acknowledge there is also solid logic that Missy was not targeted too. I do admit I could be completely wrong, it’s just what I think based on what we know.

For every point you can make that she was targeted or not targeted, an equally valid counterpoint can be made.

 

[lonewanderer]

This or something similar, while obviously quite unlikely, is indeed fairly plausible and has been discussed before. In Tom Webster's video on the case, he brought up a similar theory and one point that the killer could have been a camper who had been shamed by Missy for being being lazy during the sessions, or, like you stated, wasn't a fan of the 5 AM start times. It that case, it wouldn't really make sense to use the whole tactical getup instead of something similar, but that really applies regardless of the motive.

I imagine these workout sessions to be over-the-top positive.

There was a woman who attended a few of Missys sessions before and quit them, walked really weird with a waddle condition from pregnancy at the time of Missys murder, and a few other really specific details that would make your eyebrow raise very hard.