TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #10

[MsArk]

Still there. Just looked.

So just to make sure, AT and CT are FB friends? After all, they are married... Am I correct?

 

[Glammie]

It's still there and I don't think she was ever friends with any of the Bevers.....definitely not Missy. I could be wrong, though.

Anyone know if the Bevers and the Tuckers go to the same church?

No I don't think so.

 

[robthomaseyes]

On April 19, AJ posted about his upcoming self defense seminar. Session 3 is about 'Simulated Attacks'. That made my stomach do a bit of a flip-flop, especially with the photo showing a woman being held down.

This may already have been mentioned but I'm desperately trying to catch up so as not to repeat observations.

I would HOPE that a self-defense class would have simulated attacks. I've taken such classes; they would be essentially useless without simulating an attack. You can't learn to defend yourself unless someone poses as an attacker!

 

[Elle Vader]

AT keeps posting and posting and people keep replying like everything is normal. That seems odd to me.

it doesn't seem odd to me. He runs his own business and has a family to support. The more normal he can make things seem, the more people will feel comfortable attending his classes. I imagine with all the attention, his class attendance and therefore income may decline.

 

[robthomaseyes]

Wife of a friend of MB
W Holtz's husband BH died last year 2015
BH was a good friend of MB
MB calls BH's mother on FB mom.

To me, that makes it unlikely he's having an affair with her. A person would have to be pretty stupid to be that in the open as to call your lover's mother "mom" in front of the world! But who knows...

 

[MsArk]

Not sure who the Suspect is.. but did have a thought... Postpartum Blues Courtney Tucker & AJ Tucker have a 9 mo baby that she made a post about. :thinking: Have heard that made some do some crazy things. Who was that mother that drowned her children? Then put them in bed iirc ?

Yes- Andrea Yates, but she had a longstanding history of postpartum depression among other mental illnesses, IIRC. In fact, I think she was advised by her mental health providers not to have more children before she became pg with her last one. Lots of "signs of trouble".
This seems so totally different. I truly hope neither "T" had a thing to do with this (wish it had never happened!) but either way, their lives have been turned upside down.
Meanwhile, I found CT's FB, still open to public, seemingly without a care in the world.
I really hope arrests are made soon for MB's sake and the sake of all involved.

 

[tiffay01]

Did not mean to imply she spoke with 500 people, what I was saying is that she most likely didn't know the vast majority of them. However, she may have had an idea of who she "thought" was sending those messages, behind the profile, gut instinct maybe. Or perhaps as I stated she knew exactly who it was but pretended not to know who this person was when speaking with her friend, playing dumb so to speak, but was legitimately scared nonetheless.

However, the messages are real, I am sure LE has now gotten the IP address that sent the messages, so it's my opinion that an arrest is around the corner.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

To me, that makes it unlikely he's having an affair with her. A person would have to be pretty stupid to be that in the open as to call your lover's mother "mom" in front of the world! But who knows...

I think it's more likely WH's husband (now deceased) was a childhood / college friend of BB, and he spent so much time round there they joked LH was his second mom. Maybe.

Maybe I just don't know anything any more.

 

[MsArk]

It's interesting that to me it's considered being an attention hound to speak about one's health, but it's not attention hounding to gush over your spouse all day on social media? I guess I'm different, b/c I'd rather see a friend update me on their health than see someone in their 20s, 30s, or beyond gush like a middle schooler over their S.O. If anything is evidence of attention seeking, I would think THAT was. So, to me, the fact that a man doesn't profess his love for his wife 40 ways every day doesn't concern me.

Totally agree. If my DH started that kind of public attention towards me, I would think he was getting Alzheimer's.
My friends who promote their businesses (direct marketing etc) much like MB and AT, I notice, post much more and typically centered around what they are selling.

 

[robthomaseyes]

That is odd, to me anyways. I don't know anyone except for my dad who uses linked in to communicate with friends but that's because he doesn't have FB. I don't see why a person who is very active on FB would use Linked In for private chats unless she just felt it was more secure/she could hide more that way. JMO.

LinkedIn is just another social media tool, really. Yes, it is business-oriented, but for those of us who use it for business purposes, we do thinks like join professional groups to ask advice, give advice, discuss upcoming business seminars, etc. etc. etc. Now, my business is service-oriented (in the writing field), and I find plenty of groups to discuss topics related to my business. MB was in sales - I guarantee she has a whole lot more contacts and groups she can belong to just b/c of the highly social nature of sales - which by necessity entails reaching out and making a lot of connections. I see nothing out of the ordinary in her having conversations via LinkedIn.

In fact, I would personally NEVER invite LinkedIn connections to be on my personal FB page, b/c I prefer to keep business and personal separate.

 

[Lilywhee]

If a black cell phone is recovered at a crime scene, does that mean the owner is automatically male?

Just sayin'...

I sure hope not because I've always had a black cell phone and I'm a female. I do have a Disney Princess case on it right now though 😊

 

[robthomaseyes]

That is odd, to me anyways. I don't know anyone except for my dad who uses linked in to communicate with friends but that's because he doesn't have FB. I don't see why a person who is very active on FB would use Linked In for private chats unless she just felt it was more secure/she could hide more that way. JMO.

LinkedIn is just another social media tool, really. Yes, it is business-oriented, but for those of us who use it for business purposes, we do thinks like join professional groups to ask advice, give advice, discuss upcoming business seminars, etc. etc. etc. Now, my business is service-oriented (in the writing field), and I find plenty of groups to discuss topics related to my business. MB was in sales - I guarantee she has a whole lot more contacts and groups she can belong to just b/c of the highly social nature of sales - which by necessity entails reaching out and making a lot of connections. I see nothing out of the ordinary in her having conversations via LinkedIn, especially if that is where the relationship originated. And really, it makes sense; if she's having an affair with someone on LinkedIn, she's not going to invite them to FB, where her husband will see that they chat and flirt through likes and comments!

 

[Elley Mae]

Less than three days earlier, Bevers had shown a friend a LinkedIn message she had received, the search-warrant affidavit says. The message was from a man neither of them knew, and they thought it was “creepy and strange.”

The friend did not remember the name on the account, police said.

Police said Bevers had been receiving messages from another person on LinkedIn since January that were “flirtatious and familiar” in nature, according to the affidavit.

Some of the messages, which police also described as “intimate,” were deleted and then partially recovered by police.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...days-before-slaying-search-warrant-says.html/

Police said in a separate search warrant that text messages between Bevers and her husband, Brandon Bevers, indicated that they were having marital and financial difficulties. The affidavit also said the phone records indicated “intimate/personal relationship(s) external to the marriage.”

That search warrant seeks the Beverses’ phone records, as well as those of seven other people. Police believe Bevers had been in contact with her killer.

The killer may have used a cellphone to record the slaying, according to the affidavit.

bbm

 

[minor4th]

Hello friends.

I've been following the news and comments. I think police probably know who the suspect is, and they're just building their case now. I think they have been inundated with tips and information. Here in Texas there is a real sense of determination to get the murder solved and have a strong case for prosecution.

On the morning that this happened, before it hit the news, I remember seeing a few comments on my FB feed from women who were taking her class or were friends with her - they had apparently just found out she had been killed and were totally stunned

 

[Lilywhee]

Goooood Morning America!! (and everywhere else of course)

My thoughts having had a bit of a catch up: just because these 7 people were named in the warrant does not make any of them a murderer. I think there's a good chance MB and AJ were somehow involved, physically or otherwise, which gives CT a motive. But it doesn't make it a given. I know they were on many peoples "hmmmm list" (including mine) but there are plenty of other people out there who were being sleuthed by us all.

I have literally spent HOURS going over every tiny detail of one couple and their friend, I know what they like to eat and drink, I know where they've been, where they shop, what they do on a day to day basis. I know so much about them it's crazy (as in crazy how much can be found out from social media) I've even walked around their house on street view and stolen a recipe. I am actually going to LOL if they turn out not to be involved as the coincidence list is endless and it will prove a huge lesson to me. I might even send them a "sorry" card...

Dear completely innocent people

I am so sorry for sleuthing the heck out of your lives, your friends, your work and your kids.
Love Cags

PS your front yard needs a good tidy up, it's letting the street down​

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You make such a valid point and I love your sense of humor (the "sorry" card)!

 

[robthomaseyes]

No you can send a message to someone you are not friends with.

Yes, but it's not as convenient b/c it goes into the "other" folder, which is glitchy.

 

[Murrayforlife]

So just to make sure, AT and CT are FB friends? After all, they are married... Am I correct?

Yes. And yes.

 

[arkansasmimi]

4/19/2016 EXTRACTION OF THE iPhone and iPad.... they got a lot of information from there.

 

[Lilywhee]

She was on my radar, and many, many others way before these affidavits came out.

Just curious TTF14...how was she "on your radar" before the affidavits came out? I haven't heard of her before. Are you local or just doing extra social media sleuthing or maybe both! I applaud your skills 😎

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I'd like to point out something that has been bothering me for a long time where I think LE's timeline may be wrong (this isn't the first timeline for me to disagree with, like I dispute the current Mansion Murders timeline). The basic issue I have is that there's approximately 30 minutes of footage and LE gives 30 minutes between the perp entering and Missy arriving:
http://www.fox4news.com/news/129779738-story
If there's only hallway footage and the cameras are motion activated, the perp could have conceivably spent the night in one of the rooms sleeping there. For instance it's said that the perp went into various offices, but unless there's room cameras as well, the perp could have spent an indefinite amount of time in each of the rooms vastly stretching the timeline. Potentially the only reliable camera times I'm seeing are based on the gun store camera that presumably runs 24/7 that shows when Missy and then the camper arrived and if that too could be off where they would have to look at the 911 call timestamp and tie that to the gun store camera.

If for instance there is no camera footage in the kitchen and the perp did break-ins around the kitchen, there would be no way to capture what time that happened. Conceivably the perp could have already been at the church then disabled the exterior cameras and staged the broken doors and windows to only make it look like they broke in. It would be pretty obvious that this was targeted if there had been no signs of breaking in, but without some independent way of timing that, the broken windows and doors could mean many things and could have happened over a wide range of hours instead of needing to happen around 4 AM. This could also explain the lack of clear detail on any vehicles entering the church prior to Missy, which the perp could have arrived the day before for church (or broken in Sunday night), spent the night and then been picked up after all the LE and campers arrived during all that confusion and activity.