TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #12

[txmommy]

I wonder if we've been looking at the coincidence of the victim's spouse being out of town during the murder, when we should be wondering if the perp's spouse was out of town before the murder, allowing prep time. ??

jmo, ever changing

Great observation.

 

[rgrace7475]

Anyone have info on the conference? What it was/who went? Ty!

 

[Deleted member 718]

No, I meant how would they know he/she arrived at 3:50 if their first video timestamped at 3:58?

They don't know what time s/he arrived. The church didn't have burglar alarms or outside cameras. The first time stamp LE has, is when s/he is seen on video at 3:58. From the looks of outside entry break-in attempts, it must have taken awhile. There are door handles pried off, broken windows and screens at different locations. It wasn't quick that's for sure. moo

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I wonder if we've been looking at the coincidence of the victim's spouse being out of town during the murder, when we should be wondering if the perp's spouse was out of town before the murder, allowing prep time. ??

jmo, ever changing

Great point! And likewise, we've been looking at the victim's marital and financial troubles when maybe we should be looking at someone else's.

 

[Littletipsy]

Hmm, so they have 8 minutes of video prior to what we first see? Interesting.

I thought the exact same thing....

 

[rgrace7475]

They don't know what time s/he arrived. The church didn't have burglar alarms or outside cameras. The first time stamp LE has, is when s/he is seen on video at 3:58. From the looks of outside entry break-in attempts, it must have taken awhile. There are door handles pried off, broken windows and screens at different locations. It wasn't quick that's for sure. moo

But MPD put in their official timeline 3:50 for the arrival time of suspect. They must have some reason for that.

 

[Smart123]

Great point! And likewise, we've been looking at the victim's marital and financial troubles when maybe we should be looking at someone else's.

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[rgrace7475]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/clues-emerge-case-mother-found-murdered-texas-church/story?id=38908248

According to that website, someone in the warrant had an intimate relationship, as well as flirtatious relationship with MB?

I didn't know the intimate relationship/flirtation was with one of the targets in warrant. Is this known already maybe I missed it in an earlier thread.

 

[Margotrita]

still up for me but I doubt he is involved. https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyONETWOONEairborne --> ( type in numbers instead of UPPERCASE words in url)

IMHO Randy Beaver walking into the dry-cleaners has exact same posture and gait as the 'Swat' guy in video.Assumes the same cocksure attitude as well. Take from that what you will and guess who I think the perp is. https://youtu.be/KfZVmvI5fFQ?t=41

If RB is the perp, that explains his wife writing letters. Trying to distract from people looking at him. MOO.

 

[asac]

BACK UP! WAIT A MINUTE!!!



3:50 a.m. - Suspect first appears on video surveillance camera at Creekside Church of Christ

4:16 a.m. - Missy's pickup truck is shown on video surveillance driving into the church parking lot

4:20 a.m. - Missy appears on video surveillance camera walking into the church building
4:35 a.m. - Participant in Camp Gladiator fitness class arrives at the church
5:00 a.m. - Two 911 calls received from church
5:01 a.m. - Fire department dispatched

5:03 a.m. - Initial patrol officers dispatched
5:07 a.m. - Fire department arrives to the church
5:10 a.m. Officers arrive at the church

http://www.fox4news.com/news/129779738-story

MISSY'S VEHICLE on video??? Then perp's is as well!!!

This is JMO but from looking at the church on Google maps I was thinking that the video may show her pulling into the "shelter" (was this what we had a fancy name for? Porte....con...cierge....porte conce.....something) and that if the perp had driven around the back of the church then they would not have been spotted on camera.

There have also been comments about the outdoors store cameras over the road being a source of Missy's vehicle arriving (not sure of a link at the moment). I guess they again may miss somebody driving around the back/arriving from the other direction.

OR the car is on camera and LE know a lot more than they're letting on, the little scamps.

JMO

 

[angelainwi]

If RB is the perp, that explains his wife writing letters. Trying to distract from people looking at him. MOO.

It is his ex-wife, Brandon's mother writing the letters. RB is remarried

 

[2Hope4]

https://youtu.be/QAbJ5YzWgcU

Note the time stamp on this video. I haven't been able to find any other time stamps on the later released videos!

03:58!!! That was right before Missy arrived! Yet perp is just as calm looking as can be!

http://umbrellaofsuspicion.com/2016/04/terri-missy-bevers-update/

 

[Deleted member 718]

But MPD put in their official timeline 3:50 for the arrival time of suspect. They must have some reason for that.

I've never seen an official time of arrival. Can you provide a link to back this up? Thanks.

UPDATED APRIL 18 TIMELINE

3:50 a.m. - Suspect first appears on video surveillance camera at Creekside Church of Christ

http://www.fox4news.com/news/129779738-story

 

[Lcyr]

They don't know what time s/he arrived. The church didn't have burglar alarms or outside cameras. The first time stamp LE has, is when s/he is seen on video at 3:58. From the looks of outside entry break-in attempts, it must have taken awhile. There are door handles pried off, broken windows and screens at different locations. It wasn't quick that's for sure. moo

A couple of things have bothered me from the beginning. Why spend all that extra time breaking things/being on camera when they could just wait and go in after she does? Why risk being inside when she could have brought someone with her? Most of all, why risk doing it at a time when a whole class full of people could come early and witness it?

Also, I have read that police think the killer recorded it with their phone. Other than knowing who did it and seeing that on the phone, what could make them think that?

Sorry if this has all been answered already but there are way too many posts to go through.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

If RB is the perp, that explains his wife writing letters. Trying to distract from people looking at him. MOO.

I think it's his ex-wife who wrote the letters.

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

Timeline per MPD


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[Treelights]

But MPD put in their official timeline 3:50 for the arrival time of suspect. They must have some reason for that.

It is my understanding that they don't know when the perp arrived, but was seen on video at 3:50 am. We have been shown a video with a timestamp of 3:58am. Who knows how much video they have that they haven't shown the public yet?

IMOO.

 

[Littletipsy]

They don't know what time s/he arrived. The church didn't have burglar alarms or outside cameras. The first time stamp LE has, is when s/he is seen on video at 3:58. From the looks of outside entry break-in attempts, it must have taken awhile. There are door handles pried off, broken windows and screens at different locations. It wasn't quick that's for sure. moo

Police confirmed the arrival by him/her as 3:50am.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-video-timeline-released-in-terri-bevers-death-at-texas-church/

 

[SandyQLS]

I don't recall who created these screen captures but here they are:

The other thing about this photo, enlarged version, is that all those lighting artifacts and other photographic problems are eliminated in terms of the overall size impression of the subject. Using the ankles as a guideline, and the totality of photos and videos we have all seen, I try to mentally strip away all that excess: bulletproof vest, baggy pants, stuffed pockets, possible tool belt, oversized jacket with black leather sleeves (JMO), puffy material around rear end, the helmet thickness and so on. I am left with a person who is not overweight, but more likely lean and wiry, or even thin. All MOO.

Does anyone know if the persons currently subjected to gossip based on warrants or relationships, look anything like 5'8"-5'9" (per LE) and also on the lean side?

 

[wastrel]

If RB is the perp, that explains his wife writing letters. Trying to distract from people looking at him. MOO.

I edited my post as well. Also notice the way swat guy tilts back whole body to look above the split door instead of lifting head. Typical of someone with same physique. Batcave? ( sorry can't look back atmo) got it exactly right with his analysis and photos of leg and neck abnormations. I would bet a years salary it is RB.