TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #12

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  • #861
I understand the A Tucker/C Tucker aspect but why is everyone so soley hooked on them? I haven't seen much of anything *disclaimer I am behind and missed a lot * but what about the person Casey Williams with whom LinkedIn search warrant was issued for his account and LEO have confirmed some sort of relationship. Jan 2016 until time of her death? I just dont understand all the fixation of this one couple when MB had others (at least one that is confirmed by LEO as a relationship/intimate communication) There is the potential of others or someone of may she had contact with that felt slighted. Or may be someone that no one even knows. I could see if this man/woman had been arrested, then it would be different. So much possible wasted energy and the potential of :deadhorse: JMHO.
Or, it could be because logic and the evidence as we know it has led to these particular people.
But many sleuths on this forum have presented compelling reasons to look at others.

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  • #862
If we focus on the CG Austin trip as possibly spurring the murder what all do we know about that trip?

MB went to Austin with AT & posted photos on FB 4/14/16
MB got the "creepy" Linkedin message while she was in Austin & she showed the message to a friend who agreed it was "creepy"
The Linkedin warrant is looking for messages sent to MB for the period 4/14/16 thru 4/16/16
MB was killed 4/18/16

If the killer has children -- looking at surrounding areas
Red Oak ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day
Midlothian ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day
Mansfield ISD 4/18/16 was a school holiday
Waxahachie ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day
Arlington ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day

How long in advance was the Austin trip planned or how long did the killer "stew" about this trip?
What were the hotel arrangements?
Did anyone besides MB and AT attend together?
 
  • #863
I understand the A Tucker/C Tucker aspect but why is everyone so soley hooked on them? I haven't seen much of anything *disclaimer I am behind and missed a lot * but what about the person Casey Williams with whom LinkedIn search warrant was issued for his account and LEO have confirmed some sort of relationship. Jan 2016 until time of her death? I just dont understand all the fixation of this one couple when MB had others (at least one that is confirmed by LEO as a relationship/intimate communication) There is the potential of others or someone of may she had contact with that felt slighted. Or may be someone that no one even knows. I could see if this man/woman had been arrested, then it would be different. So much possible wasted energy and the potential of :deadhorse: JMHO.

Great post. I'm so curious how CW and MB met and were acquainted enough to communicate via LinkedIn. They seem to run in totally different circles and MB is 18 years his senior.

I'm trying to fathom if there was a connection through his Plano healthcare recruiting job or his extra-ordinary MMA, wrestling, boxing, and cage fighting endeavors. I don't think he's a "camper" type at all. I definately don't see any romantic reasons. ("Intimate and familiar" can mean silly chit chat.). Weird how he's a 5'8" 145 featherweight but the height has to be just a bizarre coincidence. His videos and still-photos show him to be an amazing athlete in the competitive "fighting" world. He appears to be successful in all aspects of his well-rounded and busy life.

It is curious. Maybe Missy reached out to him - maybe she was thinking of moving over to MMA training? Or maybe they met at a healthy-living booth event where he was showcasing his healthcare recruiting services and she was representing CG and they had so much fun chit-chatting while at their booths, it continued online? Maybe MB was exploring employment in the healthcare field? Maybe MB was trying to recruit him into a CG job?

I don't think he's in anyway connected to MB's murder, but maybe there is a link which opens up doors to other people.
 
  • #864
No doubt, with all the restrictions you mention would be counter productive and awkward warfare for a killer going up against a fit person. Darkness and surprise would lean in their favor....plus maybe a taser gun of some type.

Is there evidence a taser was present or used on MB?

On that same note, I always found it odd that the perpetrator would dress up like a cop but not use a gun to commit the crime. Seems like their outfit is a little incomplete without a firearm.
 
  • #865
Police encouraging or having ANYTHING to do with the MIL writing a letter on her personal FB is just absurd, to me. She could have sent the letter to a newspaper to be published, but she did not. Obviously, she was hoping that the perp reads her FB posts, and/or was attempting to deflect suspicion away from her family. JMO

I agree. And writing a letter would 1) be part of her freedom of speech and therefore protected (no matter what others may think of the action). Police could not stop her from writing letters to the perp. 2) it would not in any way hinder an investigation...it cannot harm facts already in possession. IMO, it's useless, b/c again, IMO, no letter is going to make a perp feel bad, turn himself in, or do anything differently than he has been.

However, I tend to look at that letter in a suspicious light, but that's just me...
 
  • #866
I wonder if the scripture posts are automatically posted to FB everyday? Not sure if that's possible. But I've seen many people post them everyday. Just a thought.
My Aunt died recently, and stuff still pops up as her posting everyday. Scriptures and horoscopes, lol.
 
  • #867
Looking at the warrant, again -
The warrant claims there were extramarital relationships, then lists names of people. Is it possible that all the names (maybe excluding RB) were involved in these extramarital relationships" Maybe MB with AT, and MB with CW, then BB with two of the other women, and so forth? If the warrant is claiming extramarital relationships, then wouldn't it follow that the names listed were all somehow linked to these extramarital relationships?
 
  • #868
this is super duper skeery and creepy but it's what i just saw. on the ct fbook on april 18 around six in the evening wasn't that the day of or day right after ms's murder??? i know the murder was on a monday morning but i don't have a monthly calendar handy. ct has changed - - - ct is now posting big blow up selfies with the bible passage up top. so ct writes what i perceive to be 'oh i am so very lovely as is but i'm thinking about changing my hair color i won't cut my hair tho cuz it's lovely as is' gulp jodi arias jodi arias i also read some one here posting to say clear that this is my own opinion and my own wording not at all real news just what is trippin through my head.

those two pics of the eyes that sparky made just are stuck indelible in my head together with the ct big selfie up top on her fb.

i also find it super wierd. i looked at ajt's fb. shocking that he just keeps going and posts nuttin about this crazy mb murder. and another gulper for me was the big group pic just days later with him in the middle on the ground in a push up. oh gulp gulp gul he writes all cheery and happy that hes got mb's student now in in his clas so that has to mean those students of mb's are now all paying him a per head amount so he's earning a big chunk of more money. it doesnt seem like he's the one who did it at all but i cannot understand why he does not say on his fb god bless about mb being murdered. he coulda been upbeat about it but he just rolls along like nuttin at all happened.

and another thing its moms day today and he posts that he has to cancel class cuz no one's gonna show up and pay him right but the feeling i get is that he wishes he coulda made the money instead. my kerazy thinking only all of this
 
  • #869
If we focus on the CG Austin trip as possibly spurring the murder what all do we know about that trip?

MB went to Austin with AT & posted photos on FB 4/14/16
MB got the "creepy" Linkedin message while she was in Austin & she showed the message to a friend who agreed it was "creepy"
The Linkedin warrant is looking for messages sent to MB for the period 4/14/16 thru 4/16/16
MB was killed 4/18/16

If the killer has children -- looking at surrounding areas
Red Oak ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day
Midlothian ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day
Mansfield ISD 4/18/16 was a school holiday
Waxahachie ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day
Arlington ISD 4/18/16 was a regular school day

How long in advance was the Austin trip planned or how long did the killer "stew" about this trip?
What were the hotel arrangements?
Did anyone besides MB and AT attend together?

How do we know that MB went to Austin with AT? Maybe both were just there? Did you see info that they traveled together? Good catch on the school holiday.
 
  • #870
...I think we will find out that the murderer stalked MB for weeks before her death and MB was aware of it to some extent. IMO, the murderer felt that MB being out of the picture served two purposes....another trainer would benefit greatly by gaining the clients she left behind if she quit. MB quitting would also mean that she wouldn't have as much opportunity to have a relationship-working or personal- with someone that the murderer felt possessive of. Maybe the perp didn't intend to kill MB- just freak her out enough that her family and friends would all say that perhaps she needed to reconsider her decision to be a trainer.

JMO and subject to change.
I completely agree. And I think it's quite possible the perp also created the fake Linkedin account and sent the creepy message, too. The perp might want the victim to be in fear.
 
  • #871
Well, I think the availability of sleuthable material via social media might have something to do with it. There isn't a lot to observe and talk about with regard to CW. I also think the perp looks nothing like him.

all we know about the perp is he/she is 5'8 and so is CW. What reason would CT or AT have to kill Missy? Is there any confirmation of an affair? I highly doubt it. He had his arm around a ton of way better looking women than her in his pics. If the wife was jealous she'd have to knock off every female in town. And this perp had professional entry/burglar tools on him/her. Who on earth has those???
 
  • #872
How do we know that MB went to Austin with AT? Maybe both were just there? Did you see info that they traveled together?

You're right - I'm assuming they went together but they may have traveled separately. It would sort of make sense for them to have carpooled together though.
 
  • #873
How do we know that MB went to Austin with AT? Maybe both were just there? Did you see info that they traveled together?
I haven't seen anything to indicate they traveled together, but were just both together in at least 1 photo.
 
  • #874
Regarding the vandalism to the church- maybe the perp went to the church with the intention of just scaring MB. Maybe they thought that if they frightened her enough, she would quit her job as a trainer for CG. Think about it- another gym friend said that MB hadn't seemed like herself lately...she received a creepy message from some random person via LinkedIn...and she shows up at her workplace one morning and discovers a disturbing scene, with broken glass everywhere and a crazy person in SWAT gear. Maybe words were exchanged and the perp went after MB to "rough her up" a little. MB very well may have recognized the perp and said something to him/her and may have tried to protect herself...and then the perp decided she needed to be killed because MB had recognized the perp's voice or face.

I think we will find out that the murderer stalked MB for weeks before her death and MB was aware of it to some extent. IMO, the murderer felt that MB being out of the picture served two purposes....another trainer would benefit greatly by gaining the clients she left behind if she quit. MB quitting would also mean that she wouldn't have as much opportunity to have a relationship-working or personal- with someone that the murderer felt possessive of. Maybe the perp didn't intend to kill MB- just freak her out enough that her family and friends would all say that perhaps she needed to reconsider her decision to be a trainer.

JMO and subject to change.

That doesn't explain the overkill though. This perp wanted her DEAD.
 
  • #875
I'm seeing a height being thrown around for the suspect that is wearing boots and helmet as fact, is there a link to their height. jmo
 
  • #876
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fitness-...tinues-to-perplex-texas-police-002259586.html

Police timeline can be found there, confirming 3:50 suspect first shown on-video.

Time line is all screwy lol Especially when going by the Official Press release then to read the various Search Warrants. Depending on who the Search Warrant Affidavit Inv is its worded different. All of those say she arrived at 4:18 as Captain Spann said at the Press Conf on ... ODDLY 4:18! I just realized that!!! MB exact arrival on same as the date of her death!! Numbers fascinate me. Anyway the Office Press release has 4:20 as time going into building. MPD timeline press release 1.JPG MPD timeline press release 1 enlarged .jpg yet this SW Affidavit made by Inv Cody Moon states time of MPD receiving call is 506am which differs (from the Official Press release of times first responders arrivals) *possible but weird for them to receive another call about same thing at 506 unless it was the 2nd call and someone freaking out thinking should have already been there... thus the 2nd 911 call maybe. MPD SW to get iphone ipad by cody moon.JPG https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822749-BEVERS-SW16-060.html#document/p1
 
  • #877
The web site ticker is asking if law enforcement is close to arresting a female suspect.

Is there evidence that they have a suspect and that the suspect is female? I thought I read over the general information post pretty well and it didn't say anything like that for certain.

I've also read posts that allege an African American woman might be a suspect. I don't know, I thought the close up of the face of the perp showed someone Caucasian, but then the surveillance footage doesn't seem reliable. It's more like an inkblot test where people are going to see what they want to see.
 
  • #878
The web site ticker is asking if law enforcement is close to arresting a female suspect.

Is there evidence that they have a suspect and that the suspect is female? I thought I read over the general information post pretty well and it didn't say anything like that for certain.

I've also read posts that allege an African American woman might be a suspect. I don't know, I thought the close up of the face of the perp showed someone Caucasian, but then the surveillance footage doesn't seem reliable. It's more like an inkblot test where people are going to see what they want to see.

The latest update from Tricia discusses the interview with the reporter from her radio show. The reporter mentioned that the rumors floating around town was that the suspect was an AA female who had foot surgery. That has since been retracted and corrected as the suspect around town discussed is a Caucasian female who had foot surgery.

Just read the post from Tricia and it will be clear. Listen to the 2nd half of her radio show. Link can be found on Twitter.

Hope this helps!
 
  • #879
I guess this is really a question for "txmommy"
I think I'll just wash my hands of it.
Thanks

I am just getting on here this morning, but yes- BB's mother's FB is still in existence as of 30 seconds ago when I checked and yes, the letter is set to global, which means the whole world can see it.
 
  • #880
Time line is all screwy lol Especially when going by the Official Press release then to read the various Search Warrants. Depending on who the Search Warrant Affidavit Inv is its worded different. All of those say she arrived at 4:18 as Captain Spann said at the Press Conf on ... ODDLY 4:18! I just realized that!!! MB exact arrival on same as the date of her death!! Numbers fascinate me. Anyway the Office Press release has 4:20 as time going into building.
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yet this SW Affidavit made by Inv Cody Moon states time of MPD receiving call is 506am which differs (from the Official Press release of times first responders arrivals) *possible but weird for them to receive another call about same thing at 506 unless it was the 2nd call and someone freaking out thinking should have already been there... thus the 2nd 911 call maybe.
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822749-BEVERS-SW16-060.html#document/p1

I've thought 2 phone calls very weird. Ostensibly the two callers were right there next to each other and both call? Why? But I think I'd totally freak and who knows what I'd do in that situation.
 
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