TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #16

[texasgirl2]

If Missy felt that she was being stalked, she may not have told her husband or anyone in her family, but I'm pretty sure that she would have told a close friend. She did share the creepy message with a friend. But supposedly neither of them recognized the sender. I guess its possible that some kook was stalking her but was not the creepy message sender. JMO

I think you're right Cady! I think she would have said something to a friend. I don't know....maybe she did and LE knows about it but it's just another thing to the add to the list of things that we don't know.

It's also possible that Missy didn't realize that she was being stalked. Or, she didn't realize that someone she had dismissed in some way would be angry enough to kill her. I haven't heard anything about Missy being worried about someone stalking her and her movements according to the timeline don't lead me (IMO) to believe that she was being especially cautious. So, if this was a stalking situation--I doubt that she would have even realized it.

I'm not sure what to think. The stalker theory is as good as any other considering we have vey few facts, IMO!

 

[Mollyandme]

I think we have not talked about if this killer would tell anyone else. The killer dressing up like she did or he did I cannot think the killer would tell any other person in the whole world ever what she did or he did. I think no one knows and there is no dna and the black and blue outfit and boots and helmet and tools are all sealed in some trash bag and put in a deep hole somewhere in a jumble of trees and bushes where nobody ever walks.

I agree that the killer has not confided in anyone but I do think people close to the killer might have suspicions but can't let themselves believe their loved one could do this and I'm not talking about anyone specifically just in general. I also agree that the outfit worn during the crime is well hidden and the unsub had a plan for where/how to dispose of it. I believe it may have been burned or destroyed with acid if this was possible.

I also think the boots were too big on purpose in an attempt to misguide LE from identifying the correct height of the perp. If anything was purchased by this person for this crime I believe they would have purchased it out of town in a store they may not easily be remembered at and paid with cash. If they used things taken from their home And live with other people it's possible others might notice things missing but omit that information from police if they are in denial.

I'm still having issues with how this person got to the church, I really don't think someone who went through all of this disguise and preparation would use their car unless they drove it to a certain area and then biked from there or walked and had a reason they could give LE for why they were out that early in case the car was spotted on camera. Jmo

 

[DexterMorgan]

Garcia was quick to get on the interview circuit immediately after the murder, and then we haven't heard from him since. IIRC, his statement about not seeing her for two weeks was amended to something like "once in the past two weeks" (instead of every day). So maybe the one time that he did see her, she didn't seem herself.

But then again, we should be mindful of how unreliable eyewitness testimony is. If he only saw her the one day, what if she just had a headache or a touch of the flu? Or lots of other reasons, including that maybe she didn't like him​. Just because he characterizes her behavior a certain way, it doesn't mean that others would agree.

Or maybe she went to the gym at a different time frame to avoid seeing him or a regular patron that goes at the same time she did. Also CW (mma) was having flirtatious conversations with her for 3 months. So maybe she felt that some fitness trainer or gym goer in her area found out and was depressed that CW would brag to people that was affiliated with Camp Gladiators about the conversations they were having. Especially while it didn't effect his wife who lived with him towns away from her life and family. Idk.

 

[txmommy]

I still wonder if the perp only went there to scare MB and it escalated. That would fit in with the creepy LinkedIn message.

MOO


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This is one of my theories too....

 

[texasgirl2]

Do y'all agree that the "creepy" message on LinkedIn is related to Missy's murder in some way? Or, do you think it should be added to the list of coincidences that was going around earlier in the threads?

I have received "creepy" messages from strangers on LI and also on FB before like many other people here have said. But I don't know that I have ever shared them with a friend or honestly, even with my husband. I read the messages, deleted them and didn't ever even think about them again. Maybe it's just me considering what I would do in that situation, but it makes me think that this was an especially "creepy" message for Missy to show it to someone else. That would mean that she was thinking about it unless Missy and the friend were already talking about LI and it just came up.

I can't help but think that message is not a coincidence considering that she is no longer with us. I won't go as far as saying that it's key to solving this case, but I will say that I am close to believing that 100%.

 

[neesaki]

My biggest issue with this case right now is that someone who wanted to kill Missy and knew her schedule could have more easily done so outside the church and still made it look like a mugging. Committing the murder inside the church introduced a lot of camera footage, added much more effort, and increased the amount of time necessary to commit the crime. That means if it was a planned, targeted murder, an integral part of the plan was to be being seen on camera in that disguise/uniform. The only reason I can think of for a killer to want to be seen on camera at all is to deflect suspicion on someone else.

The Swat perp appears to be smug and quite nonchalant. And with the Police get-up it's like a mockery, a taunt, a FU. JMO

 

[just the facts pls]

JMO, but I don't think CW is the person who committed the crime. Someone who seems so disciplined in their life (high school/college wrestler, military experience, undefeated boxer in his Army division, MMA experience link) doesn't seem like they would commit such a "sloppy" crime.

Pure speculation, but IMO, someone with his training and experience would use a firearm. It would be very easy to be laying in wait, out of the range of the surveillance cameras in the parking lot. You could take a head shot with a scoped rifle from a short/medium distance while she was unloading her truck. You could rush her when she got out of her truck unloading a shotgun, alternating between bird shot and slugs to the head and body. You could even choose not to use a weapon at all if you had the training in MMA.

I just can't see someone with any sort of military or fighter training committing the murder the way it happened (going on the facts we know at the moment).



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But... it wasn't a sloppy crime. As far as we all know, the police haven't been able to zero in on any one suspect so whoever did this did a good enough job to evade the authorities. Whoever did this thought it out enough to confuse LE and commit what could be a perfect crime.

Plus as someone else mentioned upthread, using a hammer as a weapon is smart. There's no ballistics to trace, and everyone owns a hammer or has a spare hammer sitting around. Purchasing a hammer isn't considered suspicious either.

This crime is far from sloppy. It's methodically calculated.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

*If* CT committed this crime - there is absolutely no way she could have left her home in Mansfield without being on camera. CT & AT's home is within a Mansfield neighborhood off of Walnut Creek Dr. between Turner Warnell Rd. (the north end of Walnut Creek) and Debbie Lane (the south end of Walnut Creek.) There is a camera at Turner Warnell Rd. There is a camera at Debbie Lane. Further south on Walnut Creek past Debbie Lane there is a camera at Country Club Drive. Still further south there is a camera at Hwy 287 (and highway 287 leads to the church.)

Unless cameras were not operable, CT's vehicle would have been on camera. I've driven the roads & I've personally seen the cameras mounted on the traffic light frames.

edited to add - there is one other way out of her neighborhood - off Bent Trail to Debbie Lane. At this Debbie Lane intersection this is no camera but if she turned right onto Debbie Lane it leads directly again to Hwy 287 and there is a camera there. If she turned left it leads to the Walnut Creek intersection and there is a camera there.

Not to mention if any of the neighbors have security cameras which capture the street.

 

[ToodieWorm]

Do y'all agree that the "creepy" message on LinkedIn is related to Missy's murder in some way? Or, do you think it should be added to the list of coincidences that was going around earlier in the threads?

I have received "creepy" messages from strangers on LI and also on FB before like many other people here have said. But I don't know that I have ever shared them with a friend or honestly, even with my husband. I read the messages, deleted them and didn't ever even think about them again. Maybe it's just me considering what I would do in that situation, but it makes me th

Since I am leaning towards an older male as the perp, I think that the Linked In messages were related. I also believe that they were a set up to help cover up the crime.

 

[Gwyndolyn]

I still wonder if the perp only went there to scare MB and it escalated. That would fit in with the creepy LinkedIn message.

MOO


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Pros for this theory are:
no official mention of heavy duty weaponry- guns, knives etc. only burglary, vandalism tools (so far)
costume could hide the suspect so that Missy would be scared, but not able to identify
nonchalant behavior (could go either way)
risky small timeline could mean that murder was not the ultimate goal

Cons for this theory:
you would assume a stalker would know she was highly trained and fit and would fight
the LE stated (they think) she was targeted therefore maybe more evidence that has not been shown in released video clips
Extreme risky behavior just to scare her, much easier ways I would think

All interesting and I could play devil's advocate on most of the things mentioned. All my own opinion of course.

 

[Mollyandme]

I still think this was a woman but maybe not the one discussed on here at length. I wonder if LE has asked to look at anyone's tool,boxes to see if anything is missing that would normally be in a tool box. I also still think a gun may have been involved but if so I don't think that info will come out until after an arrest or at trial

 

[just the facts pls]

With regards to this news article:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/docs-ch...issy-bevers-received-creepy-linkedin-message/

Police say the suspect had a "feminine sway" and a walk that may indicate an injury to the right leg or foot.

Didn't someone mention that CW had a broken foot? But that was from four years ago:

http://www.thecagedoor.net/events/m...-latest-update-to-legacy-amateur-series-card/

Can anyone comment whether injuries to the foot can cause permanent walking issues?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I have received "creepy" messages from strangers on LI and also on FB before like many other people here have said. But I don't know that I have ever shared them with a friend or honestly, even with my husband. I read the messages, deleted them and didn't ever even think about them again. Maybe it's just me considering what I would do in that situation, but it makes me th

Since I am leaning towards an older male as the perp, I think that the Linked In messages were related. I also believe that they were a set up to help cover up the crime.

BBM

I don't understand this. How could the creepy message help cover up the crime?

 

[Cannonball3804]

This is one of my theories too....

Yep, I haven't come up with a better one yet. Just still batting around whether the perp actually intended to engage MB all along in some way, or if they intended to leave some message for MB and exit the scene before she got there.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Do y'all agree that the "creepy" message on LinkedIn is related to Missy's murder in some way? Or, do you think it should be added to the list of coincidences that was going around earlier in the threads?

I have received "creepy" messages from strangers on LI and also on FB before like many other people here have said. But I don't know that I have ever shared them with a friend or honestly, even with my husband. I read the messages, deleted them and didn't ever even think about them again. Maybe it's just me considering what I would do in that situation, but it makes me think that this was an especially "creepy" message for Missy to show it to someone else. That would mean that she was thinking about it unless Missy and the friend were already talking about LI and it just came up.

I can't help but think that message is not a coincidence considering that she is no longer with us. I won't go as far as saying that it's key to solving this case, but I will say that I am close to believing that 100%.

What's worst. Disturbing vs Creepy. I say disturbing. So I think creepy message was mentioned to help divert suspicion from the actual perp who knows they never sent her a message. This way they would answer more questions since they believe the police suspect a creepy message sender to be the actual perp.
But idk. I would just think LE would have said she received a disturbing message and not creepy.

 

[ToodieWorm]

BBM

I don't understand this. How could the creepy message help cover up the crime?

Sorry, bad wording on my part. I think that it was intended to throw police off. I think the creepy messages were from someone she knew with a fake Linked In account.

 

[Waxmom]

If I could help the police to arrest the person who killed Missy like that I would be happy to play decoy killer for the police if that would help them. I think you are saying the police could be misleading about ct so that the real killer who is also a local just completely relaxes and will start acting like their real self again let guard down so the police can nab em. I am thinking there will be no dna.

And if that turns out to be the case, they would be seen as heros of sorts, which would go a long way towards hopefully mitigating the harm to their reputations and likely their businesses. If one or both are found to be involved, then so be it. I don't know if le actually would use them in that way, it sounds over involved and dramatic, but it would be good for them overall if they turned out to not be involved. Otherwise, just their names being used in this way so frequently will tarnish their reps-people will avoid out of guilt for the accusations they've made, or will likely continue to stick by "they knew more than they let on," to justify their defamation. The worst thing will be if nothing breaks, even if they are totally cleared. They will have to move or deal with the stigmatization, and that would be an injustice.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Sorry, bad wording on my part. I think that it was intended to throw police off. I think the creepy messages were from someone she knew with a fake Linked In account.

I still don't get it. How would that throw police off.

 

[Mollyandme]

BBM

I don't understand this. How could the creepy message help cover up the crime?

I think the creepy message was sent by the killer. I personally think they already had their plan in place and were very anxious to put this plan into action. Imo, the message was sent under the guise of a man, but I think the killer was female. I think this was a way of them having contact with missy before the crime, I think they were so angry about something that they couldnt help the impulse to contact her in some way and I think this is how they chose to do it.

 

[North coast]

With regards to this news article:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/docs-ch...issy-bevers-received-creepy-linkedin-message/



Didn't someone mention that CW had a broken foot? But that was from four years ago:

http://www.thecagedoor.net/events/m...-latest-update-to-legacy-amateur-series-card/

Can anyone comment whether injuries to the foot can cause permanent walking issues?

CT and CW both have had foot injuries according to their FB. I don't know the answer to your other question.