TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #20

[Master Gee]

The comment was made related to why LE didn't want the presser live streamed, though.<br>
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Does anyone have a theory they are willing to share about why that might be?

<br><br>I'm guessing this was a mis-type or mis-speak...and now that the sharks are circling..not sure I'd get back in the water either..<br>
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[faw720]

Hi everyone. The "wasted man hours" were from a FB group determined that a certain gentleman was involved. He was never discussed here on WS one single time. Good job to everyone at WS, whom I believe truly wants justice for Missy.

Some people other places want to spend their time discrediting those who are asked their opinions on cases. If the person that's interviewed seems too young or the wrong gender, they want to discount and bully them immediately. They forget that person might really come with a certain background, expertise and supreme relationships that guided them on other investigations. The person certainly doesn't know it all, but they've made key breaks on other cases & are explaining it from their eyes, within legal perimeters. Since LE does not have a suspect, technically no one knows it all just yet. It's up to each of us to decide who or what we believe. I share this with heartfelt sincerity: we can solve this for Missy. We may not agree on everything...or most things...or anything (lol)...but the ability to do it together and consider possibilities makes us that much stronger. I choose to be cautious with everything, but not cynical of all things. I believe in LE still and continually pray for the family and all those working to find justice for Missy.

Today's presser was brilliantly executed. Someone else mentioned it as well on here and I can't agree more.


P.S. 5'4 1/2 - 5'5 is my target height. I'll mortgage my house if I'm wrong. Lol

I totally agree with you on your theory about the wasted man hours. That bunch of people were totally out of control. Just one more reason to be thankful for our mods & Tricia. They insure that we don't go off on some wild tangent.

 

[TTF14]

I don't know what to think, please someone help me. I could swear that I read either here or a news article about the press conference today: either the creepy message was never found or couldn't be traced back to anyone. I've searched here on WS in this thread as well as the previous one and can't find a peep about it.

If it couldn't be found, then doesn't that perk interest toward the friend who told LE about it in the first place?
If it was found, but couldn't be traced, why not? You have to have a credit card to open an account at LinkdIn in order to get to the free 30day trial.

:banghead:

LinkedIn is free. You have to pay for "premium" if you want to be able to see who viewed you, and maybe some other perks. I just changed my password today and noticed that. (You used to be able to see who views you for free.)

 

[Sparky]

Let's get back to the presser.

I've removed posts about the Vagueness.

We're not here to play guessing games. If you can't state it, then don't mention it. It creates to much havoc on the thread and therefore, I'll have to shut it down again for a clean up.

Please stay on topic.

Thanks!

 

[arkansasmimi]

Checking in and wondering, did I miss a thread #19?

Its still there http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-in-church-person-in-SWAT-gear-18-Apr-2016-19

 

[JnRyan]

Maybe the WS post was suggesting that someone passed on information (that may be true or false) which lead another to commit this crime. Since the SP may be 5'2", that makes one speculate whether this is a minor who was influenced by an adult. Again, we really don't know - SP height has ranged from 6 feet to 5'2"!?

Now that LE has given this new height range, I tend to think that as well. Maybe a minor who had a father who they suspected of having an affair with Missy Bevers. A minor who went in to vandalize the church and Missy Bevers was in the wrong spot at the wrong time. This is not my main theory, though. Where would a minor get that type of attire - or even the plan to use it? Not that it couldn't happen, it just does not seem as likely.

I'm back to my primary theory she was targeted. With that theory I wonder whether it was common knowledge among the congregation that the exterior cameras didn't function properly. They could have used a regular police disguise, except for (1) Missy might have recognized them hence an attire with a helmet covering the face and/or (2) they knew about the interior cameras. The killer evidently didn't panic to the point that left evidence that we know of at this point. With multiple hits with the hammer it doesn't seem like a chance encounter, but personal. If Missy had stumbled on a vandalism or robbery, the perp knew their face was covered and would likely have stopped after one or two blows and then run.

 

[TTF14]

Were the family and friends ever suspects?

Persons of Interest for sure, and still are IMO. Nobody has been graduated to suspect status (yet?).

 

[smeck]

I wonder if MB had some kind of interaction with security, janitorial or landscaping services at any of her class locations. Obviously not a 5am class but maybe one at a different time. Maybe someone didn't like the extra work that came with her classes. The classes seem very self sufficient but someone may have had an unpleasant situation because of them. Just taking a look outside the box IMO and I am in NO way suggesting that any of the occupations I mentioned should be viewed negatively.

 

[Razz]

The facts still remain: Someone knew the outside cameras didn't work; SP was no burglar,
was there in plenty of time before Missy arrived, SP knew where Missy would be vulnerable but more importantly, the attack would not be on the video camera, and SP'S
escape was out of camera range. Unless of course, it's a member of that church who has always had "a thing" for Missy.
JMO and Spec

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[JTSmagic]

I wish they'd release the video of the vehicle. The still helps, but I'm curious if any more could be seen at all.

 

[Sparky]

Appreciate the clarification for this case.

In two other cases which I am following in the last 2 days they have posted screenshots with link.. so there must be a reason this is different but I will follow your directions. :tyou:

No posting of mainstream media screenshots got it.

No posting of any photographs of cars or license plates from mainstream media footage. Okay!

thank you so much

If you want to post the car LE is looking for that's fine. It's been posted in here several times from Twitter, but to just post cars and License Plates is not ok. Thanks!

 

[Snow Flower]

I have a feeling that they blurred the License Plate Number so we could not read it. I think they know who that car is registered too. Why was the first comment made by BB on the MPD FB page stressing that this person is not a suspect? Shouldn't that have been said first by the MPD, not him. It was immediately after though.

The public is being led by the nose IMO and I am not sure why. I truly don't blame social media for everything. We were practically spoon fed some information regarding who the perp might be. It's not just MBs kids that will read hurtful things the other woman who was trashed has kids too!

I am so sad for MB. She didn't deserve to be killed. I feel as if that fact is being pushed under the rug by people that are only interested in their reputations not being ruined and I understand that ....but for goodness sakes! This woman died a horrific death!

 

[Razz]

I think the release of the description of this car is key. LE responded to a comment on their FB page, saying "that is correct" to a poster who pointed out that LE has probably already tried to find this car on their own before asking for help. It's gotta be important for them to open up themselves to even MORE tips that could end up wasting 30 or 40 hours. There are a lot of Altimas out there, after all!

So, if all of the vehicles of all of the targets have been looked at and not matched, we just might be able to conclude none of them were the actual murderer.

Besides a spouse, who else might be inclined to hire a hit? And where would you find a hit man?

I think a gym is a good place to find a hit man. Lots of different kinds of people go to gyms, and I know I'm stereotyping, but a gym that is open all night might be a good place to find an unsavory character on off hours. I hope all local gyms that people associated with Missy go to have been thoroughly investigated through questioning, stakeouts, and if video is still available, by viewing video to see who was seen talking to whom.

Or, they want to keep FBs and WSs busy on a red herring.

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[bwt42]

I think the posters on Websleuths treated the family and "target numbers" fairly. After all, it was LE that released the SW's & the possible motive behind the crime. CW,AT,CT,BB & RB were theorized to be the killer & their reasons why explored. This is what we do. For the most part, posters did not call them any derogatory names or criticized their life choices. JMO

 

[Bootsctr]

The facts still remain: Someone knew the outside cameras didn't work; SP was no burglar,
was there in plenty of time before Missy arrived, SP knew where Missy would be vulnerable but more importantly, the attack would not be on the video camera, and SP'S
escape was out of camera range. Unless of course, it's a member of that church who has always had "a thing" for Missy.
JMO and Spec



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:goodpost: I agree! They need to invest in the type of security camera that SWFA sports store has.

 

[TTF14]

Or, they want to keep FBs and WSs busy on a red herring.

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Any idea what the strategy would be behind that?

 

[JLSChook]

The alibis of BB and RB have been fully verified through independent sources. We can rule them out as being SWATPERP.

This was not drugs or money but rather, jealousy.

SWATPERP's height is not quite as tall as thought, between 5'2" and 5'7", I have always thought about 5'3" or 5'4".

I still think this is a Caucasian female. The gait, hammer swing and what I think is a bra strap adjustment scream 'woman' to me. Now that the height is adjusted, it bolsters my humble opinion.

The 2010-2012 Nissan Altima might be someone driving through the area that stopped to reconfigure their GPS and has no idea that there was a murder in a place that they passed at about 2am.

This was my first post on this case wayyyyyyy back at the beginning of thread 2. This was before we had any Search Warrants or knew any names on the target list. I haven't really read or come across anything solid enough to change my original position: (IOW, I agree with you)

Just read the entire 1st thread and all of this one. My thoughts:

--This is a woman perpetrator. I saw this the minute I watched the very first (20 second) video. Watching all subsequent videos have only solidified it for me. (Swinging hammer, tracing the walls while walking, slight forward pelvic stance while walking/standing, etc...)

--I believe this woman is thick, not fat nor extremely thin. I also believe she is in her 30's. Not a teen.

--As far as motive, I have a couple of ideas but can't really go into detail at this time. This crime was extremely personal. Either the killer's motive was revenge/jealousy/elimination of perceived threat, or quite frankly, this perp is severely delusional and mentally ill. (See Mary Jane Fonder)

Like I said, I have other ideas but will conform to TOS at this time.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Originally Posted by Snow Flower View Post
You know what I cannot figure out in the gym situation? Surely if someone was bothering her there, and if that was the reason she had not been there in a few weeks and was not herself, other people there had to have seen it. I wonder if LE has interviewed the owner?

I'm confident that they have. I also think that reporters have skewed Garcias statement about Missy not being herself......I think that he meant that it was very UNLIKE her to not be at the gym practically every day. They took it to mean that he thought that she was troubled about something. But if he hadn't seen her for a week or two,I doubt that she called him to tell him why she hadn't been there. There are lots of reasons that she may have curtailed her gym visits. JMO

I think in situations like, stuff happens daily and we going along with our normal routines think not much about it. Then something happens and everything is under a magnifying glass. Like the gym or the "creepy message". I think the friends mean well. Better safe than sorry. But when media gets ahold of it and you know they edit it. I know that I saw a longer interview with MG the gym friend. Prior to NG. Haven't come back across it tho.

 

[TTF14]

I think the posters on Websleuths treated the family and "target numbers" fairly. After all, it was LE that released the SW's & the possible motive behind the crime. CW,AT,CT,BB & RB were theorized to be the killer & their reasons why explored. This is what we do. For the most part, posters did not call them any derogatory names or criticized their life choices. JMO

Today would have been the time to completely discredit that motive if it was indeed NOT a factor as originally surmised, IMO.

 

[Jax49]

Are they talking about one car or two? So confused.

From April 22:

"There&#8217;s one surveillance camera where you can see the car in the far corner of the frame, parked in the distance. You can't make out a plate, and we're not even comfortable releasing anything about a possible make or model,' Johnson said."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3549150/Is-SWAT-gear-church-murder-suspect-woman-Police-reveal-new-details-grisly-early-morning-slaying-fitness-coach.html