TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #28

[SandyQLS]

Not at all Montjoy. Why would you think that? No more so than Brandon was headed to his "heavenly place" when Missy died.

"Tucker says his brother’s fishing trip was anything but spur of the moment.

“This trip was planned over a year in advance,” Tucker said. “The one thing other than his family that makes my brother happy is the ocean. The ocean is his heaven and that’s why he was there.”

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/atto...idlothian-murder-eric-williams-case/147852637

Thanks for that link. I also noticed this tidbit written slightly differently than in other articles:

"...A day before, News 8 was there when an ATF dog was taken inside the church to check for gunshot residue. ..."

 

[cady]

BB said that he "spoke" with Missy around 8pm (don't know who called who) Then he called her "anyway" around 9 or 9:30 to tell her he loved her and said that she was "half asleep" at that time. Maybe no big deal, but when he spoke w her at 8 surely he knew that she was retiring early because she had to get up so early. Perhaps he just forgot the "I love you" the first time he hung up......JMO ETA...............personally, I HATE to be awakened by a phone call, but have to answer in case it is an emergency....

 

[SandyQLS]

Idea. Sorry was mowing lawn and that Spurs ideas. I think the toughest obstacle for SP to get away with is blood evidence. There's got to be a lot of it. Everywhere. Clothes. Shoes. Even if you undress everything outer. Steering wheel. Gas and brake. Bag. It would be almost impossible to not get it ANYWHERE. And your in a hurry and in pitch dark. Luminal picks up every thing.
Wonder if LE isn't looking for the owner or driver of the Altima. They have a license plate. They know who's it is.or they don't They just need the actual car. They want to test it. But they can't find the car. Parts in Mexico City. Parts in Jaurez. If SP planned that meticulously. The car disappeared so it could never be tested. Thoughts?

Some people imagine a very bloody scene not unlike the Brown-Goldman walkway which is the aftermath of a frenzied double murder with multiple knife stab wounds and at least one slit throat with bloody footprints everywhere. Other people, and MOO is in this group, imagine a more efficient murder in the case of MB, which involves precise puncture wounds which were planned as meticulously as every other aspect and which would result in minimal bloodletting, and certainly not blood castoff on the ceiling or blood everywhere. There is a continuum here, and many points in between, and we really do not know. It is not even helpful to know that the CoC was able to host a prayer service 2 days later because no matter the condition of the area of the murder, that is enough time to repair, replace and paint. Perhaps knowing the crime scene was released to the CoC after only 6 hours is some indication. So in direct response to you, IMO favored theory, blood evidence on SP was minimal.

 

[Deleted member 718]

From Missy's twitter account. What is this phone app?

CampGladiatorMidlo ‏@BeversMissy 4 Feb 2015
Recorded with the TapeACall iPhone app http://www.tapeacall.com/8zkqffq47t

https://twitter.com/BeversMissy

 

[Lizzysun]

I would love to see how LE’s experts arrived at their measurements. They have access to the scene. They have access to the cameras. They presumably have at least a rudimentary knowledge of human anatomy and CAD, and similar/more advanced skills and techniques than I. I trust LE’s broader foundation substantially more than my limited one. And yet... I can see my work and not theirs, so I’m left wondering/confused at how LE’s experts can determine their subject is nearly a full head shorter than mine when evaluating the same video.

What does "CAD" mean? TIA

 

[Aware]

Just a random thought today regarding the use of the church for fitness. Could it be that the SP finds fitness activities held at the church to be unholy?

 

[Batbrat]

What does "CAD" mean? TIA

It stands for computer aided drafting. It's the translation of 3-dimensional objects or space into 2-dimensional diagrams.

 

[cady]

Also, I may have missed this way back two months ago, but I have the understanding that MT said that BB told MT that he was worried about Missys dark morning set-ups. I have not heard BB say that HE warned Missy about them. ????? JMO

 

[bluesneakers]

Just a random thought today regarding the use of the church for fitness. Could it be that the SP finds fitness activities held at the church to be unholy?

Unholier than murder? I doubt it.

 

[WannaBDetective]

What does "CAD" mean? TIA

Computer Aided Design.

 

[SteveS]

Regarding the D/C, probate, etc., discussion......does it really matter? I'm not trying to be snarky, but I don't see how it fits into identifying the SP or solving the case.

Frankly, I agree, and have asked the same question as you have (without a response). It's not as if those can solve anything about the perp. There may not be a probate for years (and if there is, it tells nothing about the perp, it's just a tool for the curious to sleuth the victims of this tragedy). And a DC only really informs people that Person X is truly dead, so it's a dead end as well since that tells us nothing about the perp. ~shrug~

 

[cady]

I never said that I thought that -- I just saw nothing 'fairy tale' about it, which is why I asked. BB gets bashed all the time, and implicated for something he couldn't have done.

I do not think that BB is swatperp. I DO lean toward SP being a person who thought that eliminating Missy would be for BB's benefit as well as their own. I do not think that BB HATED Missy, but I DO think that swatperp did. There are several possibilities following that train of thought JMO ETA BB may or may not have been aware of the plan. I am thinking NOT, but when viewing the extra video (that we are not privy to) he recognizes, or suspects that it is someone he is familiar with. Thus, the "forgiveness". JUST MY OPINION

 

[thorpedo]

Just a random thought today regarding the use of the church for fitness. Could it be that the SP finds fitness activities held at the church to be unholy?

That's a valid thought. I would not discount it at all where I'm from in the Northeast. I live in Houston now and 90% of my child's sports competitions are held at local churches. It is a source of revenue for the churches and the facilities are awesome.

 

[SandyQLS]

Also, I may have missed this way back two months ago, but I have the understanding that MT said that BB told MT that he was worried about Missys dark morning set-ups. I have not heard BB say that HE warned Missy about them. ????? JMO

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-28&p=12641304#post12641304

April 19 presser

 

[Deleted member 718]

Brief mention of Missy in local paper by Scott Brooks, editor.

Posted Jun. 18, 2016
http://www.waxahachietx.com/opinion/20160618/column-america-and-jesus

"The consequence of purging those foundational principles is on full display. Orlando, San Bernardino, Sandy Hook and the murder of Missy Bevers, among so many others, are excruciating examples of how far we’ve drifted from the value and sanctity of life."

 

[SandyQLS]

Frankly, I agree, and have asked the same question as you have (without a response). It's not as if those can solve anything about the perp. There may not be a probate for years (and if there is, it tells nothing about the perp, it's just a tool for the curious to sleuth the victims of this tragedy). And a DC only really informs people that Person X is truly dead, so it's a dead end as well since that tells us nothing about the perp. ~shrug~

JMO but posters are less likely to respond when aspersions are being cast on their motivations or character in sleuthing a particular line of inquiry. IDK but I believe the interest is in whether or not there was a financial motive to the crime, "financial struggles" being a direct quote from the released SW's (AT&T Target Numbers p.8of9) and certainly as valid as wild speculations about 'affairs', a word not used by LE at any time. I respect that posters here want to solve the murder mystery and are not simply seeking salacious or private information about some strangers without cause.

 

[SteveS]

IDK but I believe the interest is in whether or not their was a financial motive to the crime, "financial struggles" being a direct quote from the released SW's (AT&T Target Numbers p.8/of9) and certainly as valid as wild speculations about 'affairs', a word not used by LE at any time. I respect that posters here want to solve the murder mystery and are not simply seeking salacious or private information about some strangers without cause.

Well, I would tend to agree if those items TRULY had the potential to offer such stuff. But they really don't. DC's tell absolutely nothing about finances. It's a document proving death, with some personal info about the victim. As for probate, I doubt there's one opened at this point (and one might not happen for years). As an aside, for the family's sake, I hope they don't do a probate anytime soon, because what family who has already been victimized wants their private info strewn on the internet?

 

[Scout]

I do not think that BB is swatperp. I DO lean toward SP being a person who thought that eliminating Missy would be for BB's benefit as well as their own. I do not think that BB HATED Missy, but I DO think that swatperp did. There are several possibilities following that train of thought JMO ETA BB may or may not have been aware of the plan. I am thinking NOT, but when viewing the extra video (that we are not privy to) he recognizes, or suspects that it is someone he is familiar with. Thus, the "forgiveness". JUST MY OPINION

Why do you think his offer of forgiveness limits the perpetrator to being someone he knows?

IMO, BB is as much at a loss as to the killer's identity as police are.

 

[GummyWorms]

I would love to see how LE’s experts arrived at their measurements. They have access to the scene. They have access to the cameras. They presumably have at least a rudimentary knowledge of human anatomy and CAD, and similar/more advanced skills and techniques than I. I trust LE’s broader foundation substantially more than my limited one. And yet... I can see my work and not theirs, so I’m left wondering/confused at how LE’s experts can determine their subject is nearly a full head shorter than mine when evaluating the same video.

Batbrat,
I really admire your work. Do you buy into the idea that there are two SPs, and LE may have changed the height estimate to send a message?

 

[cady]

Why do you think his offer of forgiveness limits the perpetrator to being someone he knows?

IMO, BB is as much at a loss as to the killer's identity as police are.

IMO to me, he seemed pained in his last interview w Richard Ray. He had recently (that day?) seen the additional video that LE had allowed him to see. I believe it was that same day that he shut down his SM (not sure). He, in the interview, begged SP to turn themselves in, and if so, he could forgive them. He said that he was quite sure that SP is female, but was astounded that SP "holstered" the tool with such ease.......... I also think that while he may think that he recognizes SP, he doesn't feel comfortable naming anyone, because if he is wrong, it would be horrible to have someone he knows face all the scrutiny that would inevitably follow his guess. JMO