TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #30

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TIcya...is it possible to post the link to this map or any other map, in the first post of the thread? I did not see a map link, but I may have missed it. Also, if it is okay with the map makers too. It makes it easier to look back at the church when trying to connect possibilities and layout. Thanks so much.

Also, thanks to everyone who has been making the different church layouts, pictures and outside layouts...it has helped a lot.
 
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Does anyone have the LE direct quote (s) about there only being one perp. And did LE say exactly that ? TIA
 
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Imagine if the MMA fighter had nothing to do with this. What TERRIBLE luck for him. If he's not involved I really hope he is able to work things out with wife and she forgives him. They have a beautiful family. Indirectly it may have played a part, without his involvement at all, if for instance RB discovered her relationship with him, etc but if the fighter CW really had nothing other than that to do with the crime itself, man what BAD luck! He may have just been messaging her initially because she's listed as a personal trainer on LI and he was training for that big fight in May. Maybe flirting just came naturally.

The months of sexting was occurring between MB and CW via LinkedIn is no coincidence that the strange and creepy message also came via LinkedIn. Someone KNEW that those two were flirting. I still claim the strange creepy message was a warning to MB. I think she rec'd it before leaving for Austin and showed it to a friend while in Austin. That being stated, it would be highly surprising to me if CW were involved in any way whatsoever in the actual murder. CW did not send the creepy message.
 
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TIcya...is it possible to post the link to this map or any other map, in the first post of the thread? I did not see a map link, but I may have missed it. Also, if it is okay with the map makers too. It makes it easier to look back at the church when trying to connect possibilities and layout. Thanks so much..

Here's one of all the relevant areas, with the markups (used to answer some question or other) removed.

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Does anyone have the LE direct quote (s) about there only being one perp. And did LE say exactly that ? TIA

That's a good question, Liz. Here's what I found:

On May 20, LE speaks of "the killer" in the singular.
The Assistant Chief (Kevin Johnson) said he is optimistic the murder case will be solved. “It’s hard to get away with murder nowadays and we think that somebody eventually will know something and they’ll come forward. As long as there’s any possible work to be done we’ll remain in an active mode. We don’t expect that to end anytime soon, until we catch the killer.” Link: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/20/...are-suspects-in-murder-of-fitness-instructor/

On April 22, also uses singular:
“Detectives would like the public to focus in on the mannerisms and distinguishing walk of the suspect,” said Assistant Chief Kevin Johnson with the Midlothian Police Department. “Investigators have been able to estimate the height of the suspect being approximately 5’08 – 5’09 tall. Investigators believe that someone still has information or may recognize the suspect in this case.” Link:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fitness-trainer-missy-bevers-killing-continues-to-perplex-texas-police-002259586.html

Better job by NIN, in post above. I think we were typing at same time.
 
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Here's one of all the relevant areas, with the markups (used to answer some question or other) removed.

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So a question- what hallway are we viewing in looking at the video that LE released? Thanks- feel like I should know or remember but don't. South side hall or main hallway?


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Does anyone have the LE direct quote (s) about there only being one perp. And did LE say exactly that ? TIA

Only one on any of the video, yes. (But obviously, until they find out who did it and work out the rest of the story, can't rule out possible involvement of others away from the scene.)
 
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Respectfully, those are not facts. They are theories. Not saying they won't end up being correct but just theories for now.


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HALLWAY/BATHROOM
Yeah, but if she went in the main door and her destination was to open the side door for the campers, then the only other place besides the hallway where she would stop at is the bathroom. EVERY woman would always stop at the bathroom. Trust me on that! The hallways have cameras and the attack was not recorded, so...the bathroom.
I've been in church by myself preparing for events many times. To me church can be spooky when empty.
POINT BEING, most likely the only place she was at was in the hallway and bathroom. It may be all speculative (my theory) but very likely.
So JMO and ASBVL (all speculative but very likely).
 
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That's a good question, Liz. Here's what I found:

On May 20, LE speaks of "the killer" in the singular.
The Assistant Chief (Kevin Johnson) said he is optimistic the murder case will be solved. “It’s hard to get away with murder nowadays and we think that somebody eventually will know something and they’ll come forward. As long as there’s any possible work to be done we’ll remain in an active mode. We don’t expect that to end anytime soon, until we catch the killer.” Link: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/20/...are-suspects-in-murder-of-fitness-instructor/

On April 22, also uses singular:
“Detectives would like the public to focus in on the mannerisms and distinguishing walk of the suspect,” said Assistant Chief Kevin Johnson with the Midlothian Police Department. “Investigators have been able to estimate the height of the suspect being approximately 5’08 – 5’09 tall. Investigators believe that someone still has information or may recognize the suspect in this case.” Link:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fitness-trainer-missy-bevers-killing-continues-to-perplex-texas-police-002259586.html

Better job by NIN, in post above. I think we were typing at same time.

Yeah, but I like that quote with the old est. height. Still shaking my head about the new est. height.. Thanks for posting it.

-Nin
 
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I am guessing cleanup and or changing after the murder. Wow, he could have still been in the building then, when the first camper arrived in the parking lot! Or - he was part of the group...:thinking:

-Nin

wouldn't there be a chance of getting DNA on something if you changed in kitchen?
 
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So a question- what hallway are we viewing in looking at the video that LE released? Thanks- feel like I should know or remember but don't. South side hall or main hallway?
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Scene 1 is of N hall, scene 2 is W, scene 3 is S, and scene 4 somewhere back in the educational area off the map and nowhere near where MB went.
 
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I am guessing cleanup and or changing after the murder. Wow, he could have still been in the building then, when the first camper arrived in the parking lot! Or - he was part of the group...:thinking:

-Nin

Nin I've wanted to say that last bolded statement for a long time.
 
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Nothing yet??? :gaah: RIP Missy! Prays for the family! Prays that LE gets the wisdom and knowledge to put this SP in :jail:
 
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I'm not responding to any post in particular. This is just me speculating, but I have often had the gut feeling that after the murder the portion of the video where the SP is using the wall for balance- that it was taken post- murder. His gait is altered and after a big adrenalin rush...Now I do know this is contrary to LE's statement- he was not seen but sometimes the gut knows more than the brain. Just a thought in my HO.


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RBBM

Good speculation! My only question would be why is there no blood seen? Did the SwatPerp clean up? He could have hurt himself during the struggle. And I still think as most of us do, we have not seen the whole video. JMO
 
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Scene 1 is of N hall, scene 2 is W, scene 3 is S, and scene 4 somewhere back in the educational area off the map and nowhere near where MB went.

Interesting- so clearly LE presented the video in terms of his travel- logical hall to hall. But we must be missing some cameras because I don't see any down that north hallway. And the fact the cameras started to tape (from motion) and then cut-out makes it even harder to comprehend. So both cameras (seen in the diagram) were operating in the same manner? Hmm..seems very coincidental, if so.
Edited to add and remove my initial understanding- which was off- way off.


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We’ve strayed from Occams Razor. Here’s trying to bring us back a little.

What’s SP doing in the kitchen? He/She would probably come in at least dressed and identity covered (there’s no guarantee at what point they would be seen or picked up on video.) There might not be full-length mirrors to make sure Everything is covered in a church. Most houses do. S/He doesn’t seemt o take any unnecessary risks.


Why wasn’t the struggle/murder on video (or so we are told by LE). During the struggle, it would be possible that something could be exposed (helmet/head covering moved, unusual movement(s) that someone might recognize, better look at the width/depth ofSP). S/He doesn’t seem to take unnecessary risks.


They’re probably not eating. Good way to accidentally leave some DNA around. S/He doesn’t seem to take unnecessary risks.


Why are they in the kitchen? That’s somewhere they KNOW there are no cameras. And they’ve got tokill a little time to wait for victim to arrive. S/He doesn’t seem to take unnecessary risks.


How could anyone think this is a female? BB said he thought it was 75% female. And he’s seen more than we have. Could he be throwing the public by intentionally diverting and from a platform that I bet LE knew about and probably okayed; and contradicting what LE believes? Highly doubt it. And if a female has a weapon, the element of surprise and bottled up rage, Missy wasn’t a particularly large person at all. (I lean, but haven’t ruled out either gender).


Did SP know what cameras were operational, inside and out? Whether they were operational probably not public knowledge. SP was completely covered from head totoe. We can’t tell gender even with uphalf hour of footage and many, many people with many backgrounds, looking at it. We can’t tell the car. S/he is enough of a planner that s/he wentthrough the building prior to see where they were, where he should park andwhere he should enter. S/He doesn’t seem to take unnecessary risks.


Why did they kill her in a church?!? Because that’s where MB was. To add, that’s where she was alone, with probably NO ONE else around for a while.


Why did theybreak in the North side of the church? That’s the backside, away from the road (traffic). S/He doesn’t seem totake any unnecessary risks. S/He doesn’t seem to take unnecessary risks.


Did the perp undress after the murder. No way. There are still potentially cameras around. Perfect time to accidentally drop something with epithelials on it. Least risky? Slip over a big cover (that you’ve taken along – big raincoat?). Drive home. S/He doesn’t seem to take unnecessary risks.


MMA fighter had nothing to do this? We already know he did. He has a wife and two little babies at home and he was exchanging flirtatious and familiar (LE was gracious in their description) ongoing communication with a woman who had a husband and three girls at her home. Luck had nothing to do with his being pulled into this. He chose to be into it. Maybe it was a little further than he was expecting.

All of this, ofcourse, is JUST MY OPINION
 
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Interesting- so clearly LE presented the video in terms of his travel- logical hall to hall. But we must be missing some cameras because I don't see any down that north hallway. And the fact the cameras started to tape (from motion) and then cut-out makes it even harder to comprehend. So both cameras (seen in the diagram) were operating in the same manner? Hmm..seems very coincidental, if so.
Edited to add and remove my initial understanding- which was off- way off.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah, scene 1 was taken with a cam on the N hall, far to the right off the map (in NE corner of building, looking west down that hall)
 
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Hey Everyone,

I'll be closing this thread in a few minutes.

Thanks,
Tricia
 
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