TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #31

[GA_Peach]

The term independently corroborated means (to me at least) without control and influence, without outside help, to confirm or give support (verify, endorse, validate). Most likely they have CC footage of BB and RB that confirms dates and times. I am not suggesting they are in no way involved, I just feel too much time is spent trying to twist BB and RB into the SP role. MOO

I don't think RB/BB is the SP. However, if the purpose of those trip(s) were to physically remove themselves from the scene of MB's death, their alibis need to be 100% vetted, not necessarily here on WS but by LE. Are there any behaviors exhibited by either RB/BB that are inconsistent with the purported purpose of their trip(s)? That may indicate a certain knowledge.

ETA - I have no doubt that BB and RB were in Mississippi and California, respectively. I am not convinced that tells the whole story. JMO

 

[x_files]

Wow, that's interesting in that the tile grout lines are not defined. Could that be Missy photoshopped out of the picture? It fits the location, and if that is true then the murder was at least partially caught on tape. Wow. Good catch froggy.

That's what I see. The phpto was been touched up to remove a body or something (evidence) at the scene.

 

[x_files]

Research

BB invited his friends to view info on the Chandeleur Islands fishing trip
http://www.sportfishingmag.com/fishing-chandeleur-islands

SP is not BB. (Let me get that out of the way)

I decided to look into this trip since the thread was shut down.
Also, BB says a friend gave him this trip. He never mentions in FB
That he is going with a friends or the guys. I say this for a reason.

I checked at least 12 charters.
Not one leaves out between 5-6am in the morning.
(BB said that first caller caught him at the right time because
he was suppose to be on the leaving between 5-6am)
Islands are 40-50 miles off coast.
they all leave on Monday or Thursday 12:01am.
Trips are two and a half days long.
Boat is like a small hotel
on water with all meals provided.
Must be in groups of no less than 4 (small group like that has to split
a hefty tab)
Most are groups from 8-12 people. If you don't have a group
they put you on a waiting list.

Maybe he was going out with a friend on a private boat but they say
The seas can get very rough.

Just what I found.


Also that morning he spoke with someone that put about a page about their
conversation. (I will not give name) but he said he and his friend had rented a car
and we're on the way back. I looked up rental cars and
Enterprise nor airport locations rent until 8am. With that how can you get
from Biloxi to Shreveport by 11:30am? It is 393 driving miles.

All my opinions. Just sharing.

great sleuthing catch. The care rental time is interesting.

 

[Gwyndolyn]

BB wasn't just fishing out of Biloxi, he was going to fish off Chandeleur Islands. You have to review those charters and they are all at least 2 days and depart at midnight. I'm not sure where I read him saying that but I had not heard of it before.

Thanks I deleted my post since that area seems more unique and didn't want to cause confusion!

 

[DeDee]

This vid is only a sample of the ones regarding the famous Chandeleur Islands that are available on youtube. Bill Dance has a couple. Another is sponsored by Budweiser so I thought it best not to advertise their fishing tournament on WS.
I went in front of and behind 11frogs on the research of the bucket list fishing trip. Therefore, I feel comfortable verifying all of 11frogs claims pertaining to the information shared on this thread about the Chandeleur Islands and the tour boats that depart from Biloxi to be accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Further still, I have several friends who take a chartered fishing trip to the islands as often as possible. One is a retired Air Force pilot who flies to the small landing strip on one of the islands. He wears waders while he is casting.
Thank you,frogs, for not being an idle member :loveyou: You're a fantastic :websleuther:


[video=youtube;cf3kYYWIqPU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf3kYYWIqPU[/video]

 

[No it's not]

A few posts back WS members were talking about the doors leading to the covered awning where MB parked.

Questions were:
1)Why was the door propped open?
2)What's in the background? (Member: Wheelchair)
Some discussion was made for a bit and then it was dropped.

GRAPHIC

So I decided to take another look and use some filters to see if I could see a shadow of a person and much to my surprise I am now wondering what I am seeing at the bottom of the door. If it is what I think it is then SP is not turning to look at the Holy Grounds sign but is looking away so he doesn't see her. Maybe it is just what I am seeing but others have better programs than Photoshop so maybe you could take a look. I know this doesn't fit into the time line - so there is that...but it makes me wonder.

Nothing graphic here. The floor pattern ends just short of the door trim, then there is the carpet. No leg(s), body etc.. Look at the entire floor and you will see the same blotches everywhere.

-Nin

Enhanced:

 

[No it's not]

Here's the link to the transcript from last night's Dr. Drew:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1607/06/ddhln.01.html

Thank you for the transcript.

-Nin

 

[GA_Peach]

Nothing graphic here. The floor pattern ends just short of the door trim, then there is the carpet. No leg(s), body etc.. Look at the entire floor and you will see the same blotches everywhere.

-Nin

Enhanced:

Thank you, Nin. Do you have any thoughts on the grout lines ending before the tile terminates?

 

[Akweks]

That's what I see. The phpto was been touched up to remove a body or something (evidence) at the scene.

I think I'm confused on this. Wasn't that a still from the video with SP wandering and breaking things? I doubt SP broke things after the murder. The time frame of the murder and campers,arriving see,s to close.

 

[janesmith787]

I don't think RB/BB is the SP. However, if the purpose of those trip(s) were to physically remove themselves from the scene of MB's death, their alibis need to be 100% vetted, not necessarily here on WS but by LE. Are there any behaviors exhibited by either RB/BB that are inconsistent with the purported purpose of their trip(s)? That may indicate a certain knowledge.

ETA - I have no doubt that BB and RB were in Mississippi and California, respectively. I am not convinced that tells the whole story. JMO

Couldn't agree with you more GA_Peach. It's all too coincidental IMO.

 

[Cannonball3804]

BB wasn't just fishing out of Biloxi, he was going to fish off Chandeleur Islands. You have to review those charters and they are all at least 2 days and depart at midnight. I'm not sure where I read him saying that but I had not heard of it before.

I just re-listened to BB's interview with Richard Ray. I confirm that he does say specifically that he had been about to go fishing on those islands and would have been out of touch for a couple of days if he had not gotten the call from the campers.


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[d4j]

I going through my notes, I found this interview I somehow missed before. A friend of Missy Bevers shares her memories of the slain fitness instructor with NBC. It brings out, what kind of a person Missy was. Definitely worth watching.

The very last (5th) video here:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fe...nstructor-Murder-Investigation-376441291.html

-Nin

Thanks.
It's a lovely profile of Ms. Bevers by someone who knew her well
and is herself an impressive person.
It gives me some sense of how good Ms. Bevers was at connecting
with people, which perhaps is why she gravitated toward networking marketing
and was good at it. It tends to make be teary.

 

[SandyQLS]

I saw that... I was wondering about those little islands. I did some googling on what i think was stated earlier as the charter company BB had mentioned to friends. http://www.chandeleurfishingcharters.com/packages.html

Thank you. This example link you have provided has charters to the Chandeleur Islands, and as noted by 11frogs, they all leave at 12:01AM. If you read the schedules, it looks like it takes 4-5 hours to get to the islands by boat from Biloxi. Then on the last day, they leave the islands at "sunset" to arrive back in Biloxi at 12:01-1:00AM, and guests sleep on the boat at the dock, checkout at 8:00AM - which is another confirmation that this is a long boat ride back and forth. No one goes out that far to fish one afternoon and then return each evening to a hotel to go back out the next day.

This particular fishing trip to the Chandeleur Islands (also known as the Breton National Wildlife Reserve and considered to be the far eastern edge of Louisiana) is what BB referred to as on his "bucket list".

It was MT who mentioned a vendor:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1604/25/ng.01.html

GRACE: Well, the mother-in-law is with me. [MT] is with us, who is handling an incredible burden right now, with the [family]. [MT], thank you for being with us. We believe the husband was out on a fishing trip in Mississippi, isn`t that correct?

[MT]: That is correct. This has been planned. He`s done this for about three years in a row. He`s done it every year and looks forward to it. They were actually delayed one day but they went ahead and went because of the weather and the ocean, wherever they were going.

GRACE: Was it one of those charter boats?

[MT]: It is a charter boat, but I`m just not sure who it was. It was one of our vendors that had you know.

 

[11frogs]

GRAPHIC

Thought I would repost this picture with a box around the area. As I said in my original post - yes timing is off - and this maybe nothing. Just what I saw when I put some filters on in Photoshop. The floor tiling ends at the entrance to the doors and different flooring begins. Yes it is blurry here but in the video it is much clearer in regards to the tile. Hope this helps. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[No it's not]

Thank you, Nin. Do you have any thoughts on the grout lines ending before the tile terminates?

Just 2 different flooring types, if that's what you were asking. The vestibule may have been added or altered after the inside flooring had been completed. Sometimes you see a metal trim as transition, usually between tiles and carpet/ vinyl or wood flooring. Not the case here. Looks like tile to tile without trim to me ( metal trim can interfere with door). The tile work looks like marble or porcelain tiles (looking like marble/limestone) with dark reddish brownish trim and inlay center pieces. All IMO.

-Nin

 

[GA_Peach]

Just 2 different flooring types, if that's what you were asking. The vestibule may have been added or altered after the inside flooring had been completed. Sometimes you see a metal trim as transition, usually between tiles and carpet/ vinyl or wood flooring. Not the case here. Looks like tile to tile without trim to me ( metal trim can interfere with door). The tile work looks like marble or porcelain tiles (looking like marble/limestone) with dark reddish brownish trim and inlay center pieces. All IMO.

-Nin

That is actually not what I meant. I am sorry that I was not more clear. I will try my best to take the picture 11frogs uploaded and circle the area that I am referencing. Unfortunately, photo editing is not my strong point.

 

[SandyQLS]

Thank you, Nin. Do you have any thoughts on the grout lines ending before the tile terminates?

This photo of the vestibule flooring is not from the MPD video. It's been posted before. hth.

 

[No it's not]

GRAPHIC

Thought I would repost this picture with a box around the area. As I said in my original post - yes timing is off - and this maybe nothing. Just what I saw when I put some filters on in Photoshop. The floor tiling ends at the entrance to the doors and different flooring begins. Yes it is blurry here but in the video it is much clearer in regards to the tile. Hope this helps. Sorry for any confusion.

No body part, clearly interrupted here:

Again, any fiddeling with the video on LE's side would be tampering with evidence. And I do not want to go there at all. We have zero evidence to believe in any conspiracy.

-Nin

 

[TeaTime]

Last night I posted that no one here knows any details of the fishing trip but that I am 100% sure that LE interviewed the charter boat Captain, employees of the hotel and restaurant and know the schedule of the fishing trip, the times of arrival and departure from the hotel as well as the time of the car rental, etc. I also mentioned that I would bet that BB was captured on surveillance video during certain times doing certain actions which make it impossible for him to have been at the scene of the murder. This was in response to all the charter boat and car rental sleuthing.

I also posted that since LE unequivocally stated that BB's alibi was verified through independent sources and that although it may be fun to twist the little bits of information available to try to discern his every move, it really does unfairly cast suspicion on BB who is a victim of this crime.
My post disappeared. But, what I posted is still true. We do not know the details of his fishing trip and speculation which casts suspicion on him is unfair.

BTW - LE said 'verified". The term is not synonymous with 'corroborate'. "Verified", at least according to Black's which is the dictionary used in legal matters, means to prove, confirm or establish the truth. "Verify" means '(i)n very truth; beyond doubt or question; in truth; certainly; truly; confidently; really"

"Corroborate" means "(to) strengthen; to add weight or credibility to a thing by additional and confirming facts or evidence . ."

These 2 words have specific meanings, are not interchangeable, and we can not just substitute one for the other without changing the meaning of the statement.

Therefore when LE stated that the alibi was verified they stated that the alibi given was in fact the truth.

This should be sufficient to stop all speculation which unreasonably casts doubt and suspicion on BB's activity on Sunday night and Monday morning.

 

[No it's not]

This photo of the vestibule flooring is not from the MPD video. It's been posted before. hth.

There we go. Thanks for posting this! Two different flooring butted against each other. No reason for the pattern to continue. IMO the vestibule was added later.

-Nin