TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #32

[Razz]

I have posted it before. POI is possibly a CChurch affiliate. Motive: MB "disgraced" "their" church with something, that was either directly or indirectly (tape) witnessed by that person not so long prior to MB's murder. The CG group in general was an "eyesore" to that person. They wanted them to find MB "crucified" at the church. They "cleansed" the church by their action. Somebody knows, but is bound by priest-penitent privilege. LE was still tipped off by a person close to person with knowledge. Bevers family.. is not involved.

All IMO

-Nin

What was MB seen doing (other than exercising) that pushed him/she/them over the edge?

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[Tippy Lynn]

I have posted it before. POI is possibly a CChurch affiliate. Motive: MB "disgraced" "their" church with something, that was either directly or indirectly (tape) witnessed by that person not so long prior to MB's murder. The CG group in general was an "eyesore" to that person. They wanted them to find MB "crucified" at the church. They "cleansed" the church by their action. Somebody knows, but is bound by priest-penitent privilege. LE was still tipped off by a person close to person with knowledge. Bevers family.. is not involved.

All IMO

-Nin

Interesting....hmmmm. Now you have me thinking.

 

[mountainguy777]

I have posted it before. POI is possibly a CChurch affiliate. Motive: MB "disgraced" "their" church with something, that was either directly or indirectly (tape) witnessed by that person not so long prior to MB's murder. The CG group in general was an "eyesore" to that person. They wanted them to find MB "crucified" at the church. They "cleansed" the church by their action. Somebody knows, but is bound by priest-penitent privilege. LE was still tipped off by a person close to person with knowledge. Bevers family.. is not involved.

All IMO

-Nin

I don't know how big the cchurch congregation is, but I would think that gait the perp has would be easy to narrow the search?

 

[No it's not]

What was MB seen doing (other than exercising) that pushed him/she/them over the edge?

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Not sure. Could be anything. Out of respect for the family, I won't theorize on it, sorry. -Nin

 

[Deleted member 172065]

respectfully - this is a good size church and I am pretty sure our police dept knows the main entrance from the side entrance no matter how they worded it. I would think they would have stated "MB entered where she was parked" if talking about the SW entrance." JMO

After reading this, doing another flip flop. Awning/Porte crochere/car port aside, after reading this comment, I think missy came in through the MAIN entrance.

 

[mountainguy777]

Even if the Altima is not connected to the case, I would think it would still have been found. When MPD was asked a few weeks ago on thier FB page, it had not been.

 

[mountainguy777]

After reading this, doing another flip flop. Awning/Porte crochere/car port aside, after reading this comment, I think missy came in through the MAIN entrance.

But they established she came in where she parked. That was the SW entrance. What is making you flip flop?

 

[No it's not]

I don't know how big the cchurch congregation is, but I would think that gait the perp has would be easy to narrow the search?

I estimate app 400 - 500+ members based on this. It's a blog I cannot post, but you can google it: A+Revelation+of+Things+to+Come-+Embracing+the+Change+Agenda

-Nin

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Just so I understand; So for all of the phone numbers listed on the SW, those are all the numbers that for whatever reason appeared on MB's phone? So for the persons listed with more than one phone number, that means that they called or texted MB (or she them) with both of their phones. Right?

Could any of those been a landline?

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The target numbers are believed to be in contact in some manner with MB.
(calls, messages, texting, emails, data, push-to-talk, and walky-talky; (iii) using smart phone capabilities to photograph, record, and/or video the victim and the murderous act; and (iv) using functional applications and tools such as map locator applications, clock or timing capabilities, GPS locating applications, and flashlight)

This SW has no mention of landlines.


BBM
(Copied directly from AT&T SW by me)
Based upon the facts and circumstances surrounding this crime of murder as presently
known by the Affiant, and in conjunction with the Affiants training and experiences in law
enforcement, crimes against persons, and criminal activity, Affiant believes and charges
that at the time of the commission of the offense of murder that the unknown suspect was
in possession of a cell phone and had been in contact in some manner with "Target
Numbers" identified above for the following purposes, without limitation: (i) confirming
through public social media sites and/or applications the updated workout times and
locations as posted by Ms. Bevers; (ii) communicating in the nature of calls, messages,
texting, emails, data, push-to-talk, and walky-talky; (iii) using smart phone capabilities to
photograph, record, and/or video the victim and the murderous act; and (iv) using
functional applications and tools such as map locator applications, clock or timing
capabilities, GPS locating applications, and flashlight.
Additionally, your Affiant has relied upon his common experience, as well as informational
research obtained (demonstrating that over ninety percent of American adults own a cell
phone and a substantial percentage of such cell phones possess smart phone
capabilities) in establishing that the vast majority of the populous own, possess, utilize,
and carry on or about their person (or within their vehicle) a cell phone on a regular and
constant basis, and consequently, Affiant has further probable cause to believe that at
during the specified date range the "Target Numbers" did in fact have contact with Ms.
Bevers.
Your Affiant seeks to obtain historical records maintained by AT&T in the ordinary course
of business which document all such electronic/digital signals to/from the "Target
Numbers" (for a specified date range), which can be analyzed and utilized to identify
specific cell phone devices, GPS locations and cell phone subscriber information, which
in turn can lead to the identity of the unknown suspect(s) responsible for the murder of
Ms. Bevers as described above.


MOO

 

[wgram]

What was MB seen doing (other than exercising) that pushed him/she/them over the edge?

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Perhaps they didn't like the music she used? How she dressed as they probably are strict as far as what the congregation wears? I know I have heard of religions that won't let people dress, cut their hair, wear pants, etc. JMO

 

[Deleted member 172065]

But they established she came in where she parked. That was the SW entrance. What is making you flip flop?

Police said Missy came in through "the main entrance with the awning". Most of us automatically think awning has got to mean the SW entrance (where Miissy parked). But a poster said she's sure the police would know the difference between the main entrance and the side entrance (no matter how they worded it). Kinda convincing argument.
Another commenter said that the police said (not verbatim) missy was seen walking towards the perp until she walked out of the camera view. So that would be 'pushin it' to mean the bathroom because that's barely inside the door (vs walking out of the camera view). Another convincing argument.
I had thought SW door/bathroom...but maybe not.
Plus, maybe coming in the main entrance would make more sense. Everyone seems to be having difficulty finding an off-camera area if missy came in SW door. So flipping the entrance point...would it make more sense?
Recalculatng. I'm not sure that scenario works either, because walking out of the camera view sounds like walking away from the cameras... Not towards. Nothing fits! So crazy.

 

[bluesneakers]

I estimate app 400 - 500+ members based on this. It's a blog I cannot post, but you can google it: A+Revelation+of+Things+to+Come-+Embracing+the+Change+Agenda

-Nin

Wow. I had absolutely no idea that was a thing.

 

[Deleted member 172065]

Perhaps they didn't like the music she used? How she dressed as they probably are strict as far as what the congregation wears? I know I have heard of religions that won't let people dress, cut their hair, wear pants, etc. JMO

Never heard of a killing in a Christian church because someone did not wear correct clothes. I know some churches are very conservative but not 'killing machines'! Christian churches believe all have sinned, and Christ died for your sins. In other words, Jesus paid the price (& suffered the punishment) for sins. Or you could say, Jesus took the bullet for us. It's not like some religions if you get out of line--boom, you're dead.

 

[Scout]

Jethro, I'm having trouble with your measurements. Would you review this excerpt from your prior post and correct the discrepancy?

You posted: From Google Earth measurements, and the County Tax CAD maps we can determine the building is 192 feet by 168 feet measured corner to corner. There are 3 foot eaves on each side. The taller inner sanctuary part is 120 by 196 and has 3 foot eaves all around it. Since the "outer" building abuts the inner building each side outside of the Sanctuary is 36 feet.

 

[janesmith787]

She didn't attend church there, only hosted camp.

 

[11frogs]

For those interested in obtaining a rough approximation of how far the camera in the West Hall looking North can "see" (detect motion) here is how you can calculate it.

If you start at the bottom and count the tiles on the floor until you get to where SP is. Each tile is 4 feet x 4 feet. You should count 8 of them and that means that this particular camera "sees" about 32 feet or so.

Unless those doors are 48" wide - which I do not believe they are those are at best 36" stained concrete tiles. When SP open the door they are the same width as the door.

Also where in this picture is the large opening for the front of the church (actual main entrance) please?

 

[tazman1160]

She didn't attend church there, only hosted camp.

Right. I believe it has been said she attended a church called "Cowboy Church"

 

[Scout]

That room is on the east side of the building. Because of the window configuration seen on the east side - as seen in the drive by videos. I strongly suspect it to be the room I have labelled E4. That is because the distance between the first window to the north on that side is too far from the second window down. The other configurations continuing down are too close together. Leaving the south end. I believe that room to be 38 to 42 feet from north to south 28 feet west to east.

I am pretty sure you have the pictures with the trees next to the doors. The one where you can't see the number is probably across from room 12 (NS), the one SP enters at the very end of the video.

As for where room 10 actually is, I believe it can only be South side of the stage (SS), any of the rooms below room 12 (E2, E3, E4 but only if there is a second door to that room)

What drive by videos are you referencing?

 

[TexasEx]

Even if the Altima is not connected to the case, I would think it would still have been found. When MPD was asked a few weeks ago on thier FB page, it had not been.

I think what they said was that the driver had not come forward, not that the car had not been found. They may well also mean that they haven't found the car, but it's also possible that it was a stolen car and the police found it but don't know who was driving, or that it was a rental car driven by someone who used a fake ID.

 

[MizKim]

Police said Missy came in through "the main entrance with the awning". Most of us automatically think awning has got to mean the SW entrance (where Miissy parked). But a poster said she's sure the police would know the difference between the main entrance and the side entrance (no matter how they worded it). Kinda convincing argument.
Another commenter said that the police said (not verbatim) missy was seen walking towards the perp until she walked out of the camera view. So that would be 'pushin it' to mean the bathroom because that's barely inside the door (vs walking out of the camera view). Another convincing argument.
I had thought SW door/bathroom...but maybe not.
Plus, maybe coming in the main entrance would make more sense. Everyone seems to be having difficulty finding an off-camera area if missy came in SW door. So flipping the entrance point...would it make more sense?
Recalculatng. I'm not sure that scenario works either, because walking out of the camera view sounds like walking away from the cameras... Not towards. Nothing fits! So crazy.

Did you see this from MPD FB

Midlothian Police Department was asked today on their FB page via FB message to clarify what entrance MB used. They confirmed it was the covered entrance. Here is the screenshot:

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