TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

[MzOpinion8d]

Is it possible CT had an affair with BB? Instead of the other way around?

Have you seen AJ? Lol I'm just sayin...I would not be looking elsewhere!

 

[GeeEm]

Aw, thanks GeeEm! And who could forget Granny Clampett?! (I have been accused of similar stance with my own rifle. But I'm nowhere near her league, yet.)

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And all kidding aside...I'm not so sure the granny in question is of the same rare stock, either.

You had me just giggling, love that picture. 😂

I vote Granny to solve this case 😂

All in humor‼️

That noted we are here for Missy Bevers 🌹

 

[Cannonball3804]

Did you guys speak the night before, and what did you say to her?

“Every day for the last 10 months, she has made it a point to text me at work that she
loves me, and have a good day honey."

So what happened 10 months ago?

We've asked that, I do not recall a factual answer. It's been suggested that this was a sort of marker in their relationship? Pivotal event, re-commitment?

We're good at sleuthing, also good at speculating....

She had surgery. I don't know if that was a catalyst for what he's talking about, or not.

Consider it in the context of what we've been told about the marriage:

--Missy had an affair about a year and a half before her murder.
--Brandon was aware of her infidelity and had forgiven her.

Leads me to believe that they were trying to rebuild their relationship, and the daily texts were part of Missy's attempt to work towards that.

Thanks. I didn't think we knew anything more than the search warrant's reference to "relationship(s) outside the marriage", or I should say I didn't know only MB had a relationship. Seems if it was to rebuild the relationship, the texts would be mutual, and maybe they were. BB just didn't include that. However, it seems 10 months is a pretty specific marker - not last year, not a while back - 10 months. Just wondering what precipitated those texts.

Refresh my memory CB.. I don't recall reading that MB had surgery. (I'm not challenging you... I just plain ol' don't remember.) Thank you in advance.

what surgery? How do you know this? Not trying to argue, just didn't know that...

MB’s FB is public, and if you go back to June 2 of last year, she posts that she had surgery the day before, on June 1. She is complimenting her husband on FB for never leaving her side through the surgery. She says she's gone from having a flat belly to looking 6 months pregnant because her abdomen is full of air. Down in the comments someone asks what happened. She replies, “Hysterectomy”.

I am not saying the surgery is connected to anything. But June is 10 months before her April death. Just wanted to mention her FB entry so that nobody thinks the hysterectomy is just a wild rumor. It's fact.

 

[x_files]

Have you seen AJ? Lol I'm just sayin...I would not be looking elsewhere!

Love affairs sometimes are weird things. If someone felt ignored or neglected they may find solace in another's arms, nothing to do with looks. It crossed my mind as another possibility.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you think a 60+ year old grandma jimmied off that door handle and murdered MB? Or are you thinking more in terms of a hired hit?

Lol no, I didn't mean I think it's BB's mom, I was just pointing out that his family didn't seem too thrilled with Missy, so maybe someone in his family or close circle of friends thought BB was being betrayed and humiliated and put a stop to it.

I can see why you thought that's what I meant, though...maybe I should hold my late night posts until morning when I can proofread them lol.

 

[GeeEm]

I think I might disagree but I don't really know for sure. I know that in the Univ of TX Police manual - whenever an officer pulls a weapon it's considered a display/use of deadly force and it must be documented in reports. And I would certainly imagine that the officer who searched the church had his weapon drawn...not knowing if the suspect/killer was or was not still inside the church.

Whenever an officer uses a weapon, has drawn and pointed a TASER at a person, has drawn a firearm in a display of deadly force, uses any degree of force or physical restraint which by the nature of its use, causes, or has the likelihood to cause bodily injury, serious bodily injury, or death, or discharges a firearm for other than training/qualification or recreational purposes, they shall immediately notify a supervisor who will report directly to the scene. The officer shall write a report documenting the use of force and the "Force Used" box in the M.O. module will be checked on Global Reporting.

Good sleuthing 😉

O/T Are you enjoying the RNC ❓

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

I think I might disagree but I don't really know for sure. I know that in the Univ of TX Police manual - whenever an officer pulls a weapon it's considered a display/use of deadly force and it must be documented in reports. And I would certainly imagine that the officer who searched the church had his weapon drawn...not knowing if the suspect/killer was or was not still inside the church.

Whenever an officer uses a weapon, has drawn and pointed a TASER at a person, has drawn a firearm in a display of deadly force, uses any degree of force or physical restraint which by the nature of its use, causes, or has the likelihood to cause bodily injury, serious bodily injury, or death, or discharges a firearm for other than training/qualification or recreational purposes, they shall immediately notify a supervisor who will report directly to the scene. The officer shall write a report documenting the use of force and the "Force Used" box in the M.O. module will be checked on Global Reporting.

Makes sense in the case of a drawn weapon.

We asked about this in an earlier thread and a gal whose husband was a police officer kindly answered for us that the gun serial number of a police officer simply investigating the scene would not be written up in the report (if that's what this is referencing). I can round up the quote if you need to see it, or for newbies if they weren't here for that post.

 

[Scout]

POIs have to be feeling the "burn" by now! Disgraceful how main POIs running here and there and feeling no pain!

Sorry, but from everything Asst. Chief Johnson said in the most recent press conference, I don't believe any of the people named in search warrants are the focus of the investigation.

Personally, assuming it's true that the family is vacationing on the west coast, I think it's a good idea. Getting the girls away from Midlothian for a while and spending some quality time together would be good for them.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Lol no, I didn't mean I think it's BB's mom, I was just pointing out that his family didn't seem too thrilled with Missy, so maybe someone in his family or close circle of friends thought BB was being betrayed and humiliated and put a stop to it.

I can see why you thought that's what I meant, though...maybe I should hold my late night posts until morning when I can proofread them lol.

Lol, no worries. I did enjoy posting a photo of Granny Clampett again.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Has anybody noticed the significance of the murder being committed in the month of April?

I was poring through MB's FB today. I had never gone very far back in her posts til now. And let me tell you, it takes forever. That girl was a FB posting dynamo.

I eventually made my way all the way back to June of 2014, and it stopped there. I don't know if it was technical problems or if that's when she really started posting. But anyway, in June she makes reference to how she started this journey of fitness/training in April.

April 2014. Two years to the month of her death. Now you guys know I'm not in the targeted hit camp. But if I were, I'd be thinking that it might not be a coincidence. That maybe somebody chose to kill her in April because she began her transformation in April. Who knows, maybe that was also when she met whoever it was that she had the affair with.

You folks who are thinking targeted hit, you should really spend a lot of time on MB's FB. I think if you're looking for someone who wanted MB dead, that is where you would find him or her. Somewhere in all those pictures, and all those names.

 

[ardenmost]

I know that this forum like lots of crime forums is cyclical...meaning we keep posting about the same stuff over & over because we haven't gotten any news from law enforcement. But I truly don't understand all the focus on BB and family. Law enforcement have verified their alibis and even stated that the family is *not* the focus of their investigation.

???????????

The problem is: We do not know when, where, why, how, or what was ascertained as far as verification of alibi. Did LE simply look at flight ticket, hotel check-in, etc. Are there photos from TSA? Just a ticket stub?

What about the inlaw alibi? Did they simply say: "Yes, we were together on night of April 17/18?" Too many unanswered questions, sadly. It naturally leaves question marks in peoples' minds. I am not casting intentional doubt on the B-Clan; I am just bringing up natural questions in readers' minds.

We want answers as to who murdered poor Missy.

 

[Deleted member 172065]

I respect your opinion, but as they mentioned puncture wounds in a SW, it is also plausible that she was killed with a spork, and as we did not see one in perps hand, nor was one found at the scene that i'm aware of, then it is plausable it was in the perps pocket, same as the gun, but no likley.

or a sfork

 

[SteveS]

Okay, about that firearm.

Remember how a request was made for 911 calls in this case, but the MPD denied it based on an opinion of the AG? The letter from MPD to the AG, and the AG’s response, are here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k7ju5m1k31i20tu/Bevers ORA request response.pdf?dl=0#

It was in the MPD letter that a firearm was mentioned with this language:

“…the responsive information contains a serial number of a firearm which the City seeks to withhold under Section 552.108(b)(1). Release of this serial number could interfere with law enforcement by divulging a firearm serial number that could be used on illegal firearms or be falsely used in a missing weapons report.”

I know that when this happened back in June, I saw the terms “illegal firearms” and “missing weapons report” and began to draw parallels to the Ellis County stolen gun case. I thought I had found some vital piece of information.

Well, I did some digging today, and I’m now leaning toward it being - irrelevant. I think the firearm verbiage is basic legal template language. It is used when a governmental entity (like the city of Midlothian) asks the AG for an opinion on whether information has to be disclosed under the Public Information Act. In fact, if you Google “firearm serial number that could be used on illegal firearms”, you get quite a few hits, like this one (notice paragraph 2 of page 2):

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/opinions/openrecords/50abbott/orl/2014/pdf/or201421129.pdf

Other cities have sent letters to the AG using the exact same language, as in the link above. It isn’t something that is unique to this case, in other words. It’s boilerplate.

So I think the chances are low that this is some far-reaching conspiracy involving guns. Obviously there is some weapon somewhere, for MPD to list it in their documentation for this case to begin with. But my guess is, it may have been more for strengthening their argument to withhold case information under 552.108.(b)(1) than anything else. Kind of like the SW that used the “suspect may have recorded the murder on his cellphone” deal.

As for what the gun was? Maybe LE confiscated a gun from MB’s vehicle, or from one of the CG camper’s vehicle, or maybe one of the responding officers listed his own gun on a report, although I think that last example is not as likely.

Of course, it’s still possible that a gun was used in the murder. But I personally do not think he had a gun, or any other high-velocity type weapon. And it’s my opinion that the ATF K-9 was there on the Wednesday two days after the murder simply out of an abundance of caution. The church was going to have its first “post-murder” service that night, and they wanted everyone to feel 100% secure.

You hit the nail on the head. Thank you.

 

[Scout]

Okay, about that firearm.

Remember how a request was made for 911 calls in this case, but the MPD denied it based on an opinion of the AG? The letter from MPD to the AG, and the AG’s response, are here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k7ju5m1k31i20tu/Bevers ORA request response.pdf?dl=0#

It was in the MPD letter that a firearm was mentioned with this language:

“…the responsive information contains a serial number of a firearm which the City seeks to withhold under Section 552.108(b)(1). Release of this serial number could interfere with law enforcement by divulging a firearm serial number that could be used on illegal firearms or be falsely used in a missing weapons report.”

I know that when this happened back in June, I saw the terms “illegal firearms” and “missing weapons report” and began to draw parallels to the Ellis County stolen gun case. I thought I had found some vital piece of information.

Well, I did some digging today, and I’m now leaning toward it being - irrelevant. I think the firearm verbiage is basic legal template language. It is used when a governmental entity (like the city of Midlothian) asks the AG for an opinion on whether information has to be disclosed under the Public Information Act. In fact, if you Google “firearm serial number that could be used on illegal firearms”, you get quite a few hits, like this one (notice paragraph 2 of page 2):

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/opinions/openrecords/50abbott/orl/2014/pdf/or201421129.pdf

Other cities have sent letters to the AG using the exact same language, as in the link above. It isn’t something that is unique to this case, in other words. It’s boilerplate.

So I think the chances are low that this is some far-reaching conspiracy involving guns. Obviously there is some weapon somewhere, for MPD to list it in their documentation for this case to begin with. But my guess is, it may have been more for strengthening their argument to withhold case information under 552.108.(b)(1) than anything else. Kind of like the SW that used the “suspect may have recorded the murder on his cellphone” deal.

As for what the gun was? Maybe LE confiscated a gun from MB’s vehicle, or from one of the CG camper’s vehicle, or maybe one of the responding officers listed his own gun on a report, although I think that last example is not as likely.

Of course, it’s still possible that a gun was used in the murder. But I personally do not think he had a gun, or any other high-velocity type weapon. And it’s my opinion that the ATF K-9 was there on the Wednesday two days after the murder simply out of an abundance of caution. The church was going to have its first “post-murder” service that night, and they wanted everyone to feel 100% secure.

Thanks for doing all of that digging. You've convinced me about the standard wording explanation for the expressed concerns about the SN.

As for your last statement, which I bolded, I disagree. The K9 was brought in after Missy's autopsy. Prior to that, the scene was not treated as though there was any concern that there might be an explosive device on the premises. And the K9 was used to search the grounds outside the church in addition to areas along the highway. I believe they were searching for firearm related evidence.

 

[WannaBDetective]

The problem is: We do not know when, where, why, how, or what was ascertained as far as verification of alibi. Did LE simply look at flight ticket, hotel check-in, etc. Are there photos from TSA? Just a ticket stub?

What about the inlaw alibi? Did they simply say: "Yes, we were together on night of April 17/18?" Too many unanswered questions, sadly. It naturally leaves question marks in peoples' minds. I am not casting intentional doubt on the B-Clan; I am just bringing up natural questions in readers' minds.

We want answers as to who murdered poor Missy.

Memories fading (or running together) on this one. Didn't the Mdln police actually physically go down to Biloxi?

 

[Starpuzzle]

Question: If we were in the criminal's (s') shoes here, what would we want to do to make sure that was absolutely sealed air tight?

Would it be an alibi? An alibi has exact places, times, etc... attached to it
Would we want to inject ourselves to the public to appear as if we were stunned, yet, helpful to LE?
Would we hire someone with expertise in these situations, who may guide us as how to proceed?

These are just questions which give me great pause as I look at this tragedy. All of these statements are IMHO.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Thanks for doing all of that digging. You've convinced me about the standard wording explanation for the expressed concerns about the SN.

As for your last statement, which I bolded, I disagree. The K9 was brought in after Missy's autopsy. Prior to that, the scene was not treated as though there was any concern that there might be an explosive device on the premises. And the K9 was used to search the grounds outside the church in addition to areas along the highway. I believe they were searching for firearm related evidence.

And you may well be right. With the timeline being murder on Mon, autopsy on Tue, K-9 and service on Wed, my theory and yours are both plausible. We need more facts.

 

[Scout]

And you may well be right. With the timeline being murder on Mon, autopsy on Tue, K-9 and service on Wed, my theory and yours are both plausible. We need more facts.

Agree!!!

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Well ok then. Looks like the gun serial number is not the topic of choice tonight.

Sforks are.

 

[ardenmost]

We need to be all inclusive with regard to possibilities. That is what I am saying, proposing. Close mindedness will NOT solve this horrible injustice!