TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

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  • #781
There were much more in depth discussions confirming this about 6-8 weeks ago. But post #720 on this thread has a thumbnailof the SW where you’ll see A Tucker (AJ Tucker), next to CT.
We have generally assumed (you know the potential THAT word carries with it) the CT mentioned is AT's wife based on several events that occurred in AT's timeline after MB's murder. His trash was taken. His phone "blew up" when rumors of an arrest was imminent-things of that nature. KS stated after or around that time that she had a suspect or POI (can't recall the term she used) but it hadn't seemed to pan out as MPD announced that there was a rumor and it was nothing more than that. http://www.fox4news.com/news/140467725-story I don't believe we have any SW that names her in the Public however.
 
  • #782
... that has me of the belief that SP arrived and left on foot. You can hide yourself easier than yourself and a car. .

It is for that reason that I think the perp arrived and departed via vehicle. In 1 single minute, with a vehicle, you can be almost be a mile from the murder scene. But traveling on foot, in the rain and the mud it takes quite a while to put much distance between you and that evil deed.
 
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We have generally assumed (you know the potential THAT word carries with it) the CT mentioned is AT's wife based on several events that occurred in AT's timeline after MB's murder. His trash was taken. His phone "blew up" when rumors of an arrest was imminent-things of that nature. KS stated after or around that time that she had a suspect or POI (can't recall the term she used) but it hadn't seemed to pan out as MPD announced that there was a rumor and it was nothing more than that. http://www.fox4news.com/news/140467725-story I don't believe we have any SW that names her in the Public however.

CT female= AT's wife
CT male= BB's borther
AFAIK we don't know exactly who is named on the SW.

Yes, we do know, and she was named publicly. Early on when the SW was made public, many of us saw an unredacted version, which showed the CT listed on the SW as AT's wife. The unredacted version named full names. I don't have a ss handy, but perhaps the unredacted version is posted in the media thread (sorry I didn't look before posting).
 
  • #785
The recitation of facts contained in this Affidavit is not meant to be a complete narrative of all information that is known to your Affiant, but only a summary of facts, to necessitate the establishment of sufficient probable cause, in support of this affidavit, for the issuance of this Evidentiary Search Warrant.

That statement is accurate, but it has implications you apparently fail to recognize. LE has sworn under oath, having reviewed all the video, that neither MB nor perp were seen on video after she disappeared from sight walking the main hallway. If it was not a fact, and not true, then swearing under oath, with penalty of perjury, has jeopardized this case (because of all the SW's they obtained using that lie) and can cause problems for LE and the officer who swore it to be true. There is no way, at the point of that SW affidavit, that they would not have known (or been able to know) whether MB and the perp were or were not seen again, because it's a finite amount of video to view, perhaps less than 30 minutes viewing.
 
  • #786
I'm just going to put this out there, and I know many of you will disagree and take issue, but there is so much more to this case than the last 4-8 minutes of Missy's life. This case will only be solved by studying and understanding the events leading up to that final day. Its a kaleidoscope right now, but once you turn the right key all the pieces fall into place. There are a few key players that will break this case-each one leads to 3 or 4 more. That's why this is taking so long. People need to be vetted and either put on the board or removed from consideration. This is gumshoe work that takes (in some cases) quite a while. So much is off limits to discuss here; that is a shame. This case is so expansive I implore the admins to expand our ability to discuss...please...
 
  • #787
This is not as complicated to figure out as everyone thinks. Money, revenge, affairs, and sloppiness.
 
  • #788
CT female= AT's wife
CT male= BB's borther
AFAIK we don't know exactly who is named on the SW.
ATs wife is on the search warrant. We've gone thru this several times already. I appreciate the diligence but at some point we need to stop the ground hog day stuff.

Taking a needed break.
 
  • #789
I have no idea about these cameras but since we can't really discuss major players in this case, like where SP went after (s)he left the church..I found this
http://www.funlux.com/resource/motion-activated-security-camera.html

Important Considerations before you buy motion activated security camera:



  • * A motion detection camera starts recording automatically when it detects changes in heat. A good motion detection camera can detect human movement at 15 feet from the camera, and you can adjust this sensitivity to suit your needs. Before you go out to buy a motion detection camera, you should take care of this important feature.
  • * Another very important feature to take care of when choosing motion detection camera is the ability to arm or disarm the motion detected cameras from your smart phone.
  • * Field of view of the camera is important and some thought should be given as to where to place those cameras so that they can be easily activated when some motion is detected.
  • * The direction of expected motion relative to the camera position- the motion sensor is much more sensitive to movement ACROSS its field of view than to movement directly toward or away from it. For best results, you should position your camera to capture sideways movement.
  • * Sensitivity of the camera - Once you have mounted and aimed your camera at desired spot you can now adjust the motion detection sensitivity. You can individually set the motion sensitivity of each camera. Move the slider to the left towards “min” to make your motion sensor LESS sensitive and less likely to trigger, or to the right towards “max” to make it MORE sensitive and more likely to trigger. Over time, you will find the exact sensitivity in the motion detection camera that works for your particular location and situation.
 
  • #790
That statement is accurate, but it has implications you apparently fail to recognize. LE has sworn under oath, having reviewed all the video, that neither MB nor perp were seen on video after she disappeared from sight walking the main hallway. If it was not a fact, and not true, then swearing under oath, with penalty of perjury, has jeopardized this case (because of all the SW's they obtained using that lie) and can cause problems for LE and the officer who swore it to be true. There is no way, at the point of that SW affidavit, that they would not have known (or been able to know) whether MB and the perp were or were not seen again, because it's a finite amount of video to view, perhaps less than 30 minutes viewing.
That and anything else they derived from further investigation based on anything discovered with the warrant - fruit of the poisoned tree.
 
  • #791
This is not as complicated to figure out as everyone thinks. Money, revenge, affairs, and sloppiness.

Are you saying you have it all figured out?
 
  • #792
It only took me 5 days. Pretty simple with evidence in video and open fb page. The car was just added proof.
 
  • #793
Yes more or less.
 
  • #794
I'm just going to put this out there, and I know many of you will disagree and take issue, but there is so much more to this case than the last 4-8 minutes of Missy's life. This case will only be solved by studying and understanding the events leading up to that final day. Its a kaleidoscope right now, but once you turn the right key all the pieces fall into place. There are a few key players that will break this case-each one leads to 3 or 4 more. That's why this is taking so long. People need to be vetted and either put on the board or removed from consideration. This is gumshoe work that takes (in some cases) quite a while. So much is off limits to discuss here; that is a shame. This case is so expansive I implore the admins to expand our ability to discuss...please...

I find that the ability to discuss certain things in this case was and is expanded. In My Opinion, this case for Missy is VERY different from threads that I have seen on other cases. The ability to mention about CT is so VERY different from other cases.

When you mention Expanding the ability to discuss, there must be a reason or reasons in your opinion to discuss other people.

If CT has NOTHING to do with the murder of Missy, I think it has been an Injustice already to speak about her in the ways that she has been spoken about in the thread.

If others are brought in for discussion and they have nothing to do with Missy's murder, then that too is mud slinging, and lives forever on the internet.

Yes,.certain things are off limits ,and I don't exactly think it is a shame. Innocent people can get hurt. Not only by words but by actions caused by words.

In fact Missy's family has been hurt by what people have said in social media, imoo.

Let LE give us persons of interests or a suspect or suspects.

Opening up avenues to research others, when there is a question that they could be innocent could very well harm their lives in any which way.

In My Opinion Only.
 
  • #795
This is not as complicated to figure out as everyone thinks. Money, revenge, affairs, and sloppiness.

Well, if it is sloppiness then it was a well orchestrated sloppiness as there has been NO arrest.

IMOO.
 
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  • #797
This is not as complicated to figure out as everyone thinks. Money, revenge, affairs, and sloppiness.

1) Have you notified Crime Stoppers of Ellis County about your findings?

2) Is your suspect likely to hurt others in the community?
 
  • #798
I find that the ability to discuss certain things in this case was and is expanded. In My Opinion, this case for Missy is VERY different from threads that I have seen on other cases. The ability to mention about CT is so VERY different from other cases.

When you mention Expanding the ability to discuss, there must be a reason or reasons in your opinion to discuss other people.

If CT has NOTHING to do with the murder of Missy, I think it has been an Injustice already to speak about her in the ways that she has been spoken about in the thread.

If others are brought in for discussion and they have nothing to do with Missy's murder, then that too is mud slinging, and lives forever on the internet.

Yes,.certain things are off limits ,and I don't exactly think it is a shame. Innocent people can get hurt. Not only by words but by actions caused by words.

In fact Missy's family has been hurt by what people have said in social media, imoo.

Let LE give us persons of interests or a suspect or suspects.

Opening up avenues to research others, when there is a question that they could be innocent could very well harm their lives in any which way.

In My Opinion Only.

1) CT has been discussed because she CAN be. She is in the search warrants and therefore qualifies. She also unfortunately falls under suspicion due to "where there's smoke there's fire" theory of jealousy and revenge. So much so that LE investigated this possibility. It has come to my attention just today that there are copies of unredacted SW circulating and that is unfortunate. I hope those are subpoenaed and removed from wherever. Those expose the holders to potential problems down the road, IMHO

2) Not Saying others by initial need to be brought in, but I would like to expand the discussion beyond corridors, tiles, crockpots, etc. I DO NOT find fault with those that hash this all out. I thank them. My mind simply does not work in that fashion so I accept the results of their hard work with gratitude and thanks. I couldn't do it-it makes my head hurt to even try. I would like to explore where SP might have exited to after he left the church. Where would one be able to hide bloody clothes? Examining the letters the other day was an awesome exercise.

3)There are more people involved in this than those we have listed for us in the SW we have available to the public. They have not committed crimes, but have contributed knowledge to the investigators. I would like to be able to piece together the crime as it developed before, during, and after the murder. Paint the whole picture, if you will. I am almost there. I am sure I am missing pieces, but feel I have a hazy picture of what happened. Its not in focus. I can't see the murderer's face..
 
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  • #800
It only took me 5 days. Pretty simple with evidence in video and open fb page. The car was just added proof.

Why haven't police solved it then?
 
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