TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

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  • #801
1) CT has been discussed because she CAN be. She is in the search warrants and therefore qualifies. She also unfortunately falls under suspicion due to "where there's smoke there's fire" theory of jealousy and revenge. So much so that LE investigated this possibility. It has come to my attention just today that there are copies of unredacted SW circulating and that is unfortunate. I hope those are subpoenaed and removed from wherever. Those expose the holders to potential problems down the road, IMHO

2) Not Saying others by initial need to be brought in, but I would like to expand the discussion beyond corridors, tiles, crockpots, etc. I DO NOT find fault with those that hash this all out. I thank them. My mind simply does not work in that fashion so I accept the results of their hard work with gratitude and thanks. I couldn't do it-it makes my head hurt to even try. I would like to explore where SP might have exited to after he left the church. Where would one be able to hide bloody clothes? Examining the letters the other day was an awesome exercise.

3)There are more people involved in this than those we have listed for us in the SW we have available to the public. They have not committed crimes, but have contributed knowledge to the investigators. I would like to be able to piece together the crime as it developed before, during, and after the murder. Paint the whole picture, if you will. I am almost there. I am sure I am missing pieces, but feel I have a hazy picture of what happened. Its not in focus. I can't see the murderer's face..

Early on, the implication that an arrest is imminent, and the implication that CT was the SP is what I mean.

IMOO.
 
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1) CT has been discussed because she CAN be. She is in the search warrants and therefore qualifies. She also unfortunately falls under suspicion due to "where there's smoke there's fire" theory of jealousy and revenge. So much so that LE investigated this possibility. It has come to my attention just today that there are copies of unredacted SW circulating and that is unfortunate. I hope those are subpoenaed and removed from wherever. Those expose the holders to potential problems down the road, IMHO

2) Not Saying others by initial need to be brought in, but I would like to expand the discussion beyond corridors, tiles, crockpots, etc. I DO NOT find fault with those that hash this all out. I thank them. My mind simply does not work in that fashion so I accept the results of their hard work with gratitude and thanks. I couldn't do it-it makes my head hurt to even try. I would like to explore where SP might have exited to after he left the church. Where would one be able to hide bloody clothes? Examining the letters the other day was an awesome exercise.

3)There are more people involved in this than those we have listed for us in the SW we have available to the public. They have not committed crimes, but have contributed knowledge to the investigators. I would like to be able to piece together the crime as it developed before, during, and after the murder. Paint the whole picture, if you will. I am almost there. I am sure I am missing pieces, but feel I have a hazy picture of what happened. Its not in focus. I can't see the murderer's face..
What are you coming up with for the motive?
Maybe we can work backwards from that?
 
  • #804
It only took me 5 days. Pretty simple with evidence in video and open fb page. The car was just added proof.

Hmmm....so, why no arrests? JMO
 
  • #805
The amount of evidence you need to convince a jury can be large, so maybe they want to be sure they have a strong case first. OR maybe they're hoping by acting like the perp is not a suspect (as long as hes not a flight risk or risk to others) he will lead them to accomplices by leaving him "free" for a while

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  • #806
Not sure which reaction you were referring to. I noticed her sobbing without tears.

Exactly! I was hoping someone else saw KS sobbing with no tears besides me. Could be a boon to an actress career!
 
  • #807
Let's assume for the sake of argument that SP decides to drive to Fort Worth after the murder. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at <modsnip> and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.

Possible?
 
  • #808
What are you coming up with for the motive?
Maybe we can work backwards from that?
I think the motive is pure hate-the kind that festers until it turns in to murderous rage. That the killer held it all inside is very telling.
 
  • #809
Let's assume for the sake of argument that SP decides to drive to Fort Worth after the murder. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at <modsnip> and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.

Possible?

What could have been remarkable with the car or the driver that a car washer would have seen ...........??
 
  • #810
Exactly! I was hoping someone else saw KS sobbing with no tears besides me. Could be a boon to an actress career!

I also immediately thought of something like "could have been an impressive actress in a family saga (rich people, very good styling)"! :D
 
  • #811
This is not as complicated to figure out as everyone thinks. Money, revenge, affairs, and sloppiness.

I don't wait for another murder BUT why has only MB become a victim in this larger circle?
 
  • #812
Here's one possible way I think the day of April 18th may have gone from SP's perspective: ALL JUST IMHO

pre 2:00am SP is already up. Today is the day.

2:00am Nissan Altima makes the final sweep of the scene. <modsnip> is completely without anyone around. The final check on Creekside Church of Christ looks good. No cars. No janitors. Just pull into SWFA and make the phone call to SP to let them know it's a go.

3:00am SP leaves <modsnip> having put on disguise and grabbed tools. Go time! Drives the short distance to the church.

Others have gone into some better detail about breach times etc. I've never attempted anything like that so I am happy to defer to them on the subject. Once inside the church, SPs movements are fairly well documented.

I think that SP drove to Fort Worth after the murder. TOS forbids me to post my reasons. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at <modsnip> and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.


*I think an important note here is that the Altima is not SP's vehicle. Several people have felt SP did not act alone. I am slowly joining that camp. This is only one of my scenarios
 
  • #813
It only took me 5 days. Pretty simple with evidence in video and open fb page. The car was just added proof.

Tell us more, we will listen!
 
  • #814
Here's one possible way I think the day of April 18th may have gone from SP's perspective: ALL JUST IMHO

pre 2:00am SP is already up. Today is the day.

2:00am Nissan Altima makes the final sweep of the scene. <modsnip> is completely without anyone around. The final check on Creekside Church of Christ looks good. No cars. No janitors. Just pull into SWFA and make the phone call to SP to let them know it's a go.

3:00am SP leaves <modsnip> having put on disguise and grabbed tools. Go time! Drives the short distance to the church.

Others have gone into some better detail about breach times etc. I've never attempted anything like that so I am happy to defer to them on the subject. Once inside the church, SPs movements are fairly well documented.

I think that SP drove to Fort Worth after the murder. TOS forbids me to post my reasons. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at <modsnip> and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.


*I think an important note here is that the Altima is not SP's vehicle. Several people have felt SP did not act alone. I am slowly joining that camp. This is only one of my scenarios

In your scenario, is it your opinion that this day/morning was planned because MB daughter was not with her and BB was out of town?
 
  • #815
In your scenario, is it your opinion that this day/morning was planned because MB daughter was not with her and BB was out of town?
Yes, I think that was a big consideration-more that BB was out of town, because the girls seldom went to the 5am workouts, as I understand it.
 
  • #816
Let's assume for the sake of argument that SP decides to drive to Fort Worth after the murder. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at A Keepsake Storage and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.

Possible?

Why <modsnip>?
 
  • #817
Here's one possible way I think the day of April 18th may have gone from SP's perspective: ALL JUST IMHO

pre 2:00am SP is already up. Today is the day.

2:00am Nissan Altima makes the final sweep of the scene. <modsnip> is completely without anyone around. The final check on Creekside Church of Christ looks good. No cars. No janitors. Just pull into SWFA and make the phone call to SP to let them know it's a go.

3:00am SP leaves <modsnip> having put on disguise and grabbed tools. Go time! Drives the short distance to the church.

Others have gone into some better detail about breach times etc. I've never attempted anything like that so I am happy to defer to them on the subject. Once inside the church, SPs movements are fairly well documented.

I think that SP drove to Fort Worth after the murder. TOS forbids me to post my reasons. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at <modsnip> and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.


*I think an important note here is that the Altima is not SP's vehicle. Several people have felt SP did not act alone. I am slowly joining that camp. This is only one of my scenarios


Another car in the storage unit and changing the vehicle - is that a possibility in your scenario? Or is a <modsnip> a little storage like a safe-deposit box or a metal cupboard somewhere?
 
  • #818
Let's assume for the sake of argument that SP decides to drive to Fort Worth after the murder. (S)he may have been in a hurry to leave, having finally gotten MB out of the way once and for all, so (s)he removes the hot helmet and balaclava before getting in the car jumps in and drives off. My theory (w-i-p) is that SP then stopped at <modsnip> and ditched the gear and cleaned up with a pre stashed clean-up kit, changed and then wiped off any thing that might have gotten in the car. After that SP got back in the car and proceeded on to Ft Worth.

Possible?

What is pointing you to <modsnip> and Ft Worth?
 
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