TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016- # 9

[Mountain Misst]

What does CG stand for?

Camp Gladiator - the class that was to be held at 5am.

 

[Breck80]

BBM

I just have a hard time believing that a fitness expert would walk like this perp. Unless, going with Breck's idea that the perp is a "show-off", he'd have to be a great actor too!

I never said "fitness expert." I said someone that's a CG trainer or spouse. With all due respect to the CG community, not everyone with them is a fitness expert. You can look at the photos and see that, too. Missy, however, was unbelievably fit and in superb shape.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by Stephenie View Post
I thought hit from the get go. The part i don't understand is why they would attack from the front and not just a surprise hit from behind.

^bbm Yes, trying to figure sequence of events w attack from rear but also leaving chest wounds.
Maybe, in brief, initial attack from behind, then chest wounds?

Warning, graphic:
Hidden in dark bldg, did perp wait until Ms B entered, walked past hiding place, then attack her from behind?
Initial powerful swing - hammer? baseball bat? brick? wrench? nightstick? - into back of head or neck?
More blows, some striking, some glancing, as Ms B slumped?

At point when Ms B was (groggy? unconscious? on floor) on side/stomach and unable to fight back, did perp move/roll her onto her back?
Did perp then switch to puncturing tool(s) (perp's own or from church)? (I'm cringing while typing) Hunting knife? Screwdriver? Kitchen knife? Scissors?
W Ms B on floor and perp squatting/kneeling/sitting, did perp then inflict fatal wounds? Puncturing lungs? Heart? Other vital organs?

Just a possibility: explains chest wounds to Ms B, although initial attack was not from front.

Ms B was fit and strong
Could Ms B be fatally injured by someone smaller, shorter, weaker, less fit than she was?
Did she have self defense training or RL experience in hand-to-hand fighting/close quarters combat?
Could a surprise attack from the rear overcome any SD training or RL fighting experience Ms B may have had? ITS, but JM2cts.

Glass around the female.... From Chief Smith.... thats what I was wondering earlier... maybe fell into that glass in front entrance? puncture wounds from glass ? There are also 2 glass top tables in that front area. Just thinking out loud

 

[Starry Night]

I never said "fitness expert." I said someone that's a CG trainer or spouse. With all due respect to the CG community, not everyone with them is a fitness expert. You can look at the photos and see that, too. Missy, however, was unbelievably fit and in superb shape.

Not seeing what you are ..... what constitutes 'unbelievably fit and in superb shape'? And what difference would it make to a burglar?

 

[arkansasmimi]

I think we are on the same page but different paragraphs. My fault. I meant the sanctuary door he /she appeared to be hammering on. Across from the dutch doors. Too tired. Off to bed.

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It looks to me that the Suspect opened that door and went into that room, not hitting on anything. When the spliced part come on after is when Suspect came out of that room hitting something. I think glass not sheetrock JMHO that what I see at starting 146 mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePS8TJ6UAqY&feature=youtu.be

 

[verbonica]

Glass around the female.... From Chief Smith.... thats what I was wondering earlier... maybe fell into that glass in front entrance? puncture wounds from glass ? There are also 2 glass top tables in that front area. Just thinking out loud

I'd suspect that all of the windows are safety glass that doesn't end up as pointy shards. Good thought on the glass tables, maybe they are not safety glass -- it can't be the ones we see in the video, though, since the camera there would have been on the murder scene. I guess there could be more tables like that elsewhere, though.

 

[Cricket99]

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[texasgirl2]

Boy! It's been a bit of a "snarky" post day today!! :slap: I'm really hoping that it's not like this tomorrow. I think we all just woke up on the wrong side of the bed given the news we heard last night. Ugh. I know I'm going to try harder tomorrow. But, and this may just be MOO--I hope we can all remember that even if you don't find something useful, it doesn't mean someone else here doesn't. All of us have been trying really hard to help in any way we can in the thread or behind the scenes. Everyone is doing the best they can with the information they have. Anyway, I'm just warning you that if you get snarky on this thread tomorrow, I'm gonna start asking you really stupid questions while I play Candy Crush on my phone.

As time moves on, it's harder and harder for me and many locally that I know not to look outside the CG/business circle.

The main reason is the cameras. IMO, Only a handful of people at that church knew the cameras were motion-activated. If someone inquired about about them, the church staff would find that highly suspicious. Then, it's often reported on here that the "outside cameras didn't work." They DID work, but weren't activated. It's not a coincidence to me that the perp picked a rainy day and went undetected outside with ease. Then they callously performed on camera and moseyed around for all of us and killed Missy by finding a spot off-camera. This is no coincidence to me. Missy lives on a road that is very spaced out and dark. They didn't ambush her there in the driveway. They picked a place that they could perform on camera bc they think they're smarter than everyone else.

The only people who would know these specifics would be those in her family (which I 100% believe they're innocent) or CG associates or their spouses. As some campers on here have noted, they just showed up for class and didn't know what was motion-activated or not.

I don't buy the theory that it's someone who stalked her. Once again, how would they know such intricate details of that church.

I don't buy that they left on motorcycle for a few reasons. For one, Hwy 287 has multiple lights and is desolate that time of the night. Someone would have remembered them if they were dressed in that gear. If they picked the back roads, there's no way they sped through there. The roads back behind the church have steep, steep curves that are slick. Even if the rain stopped at that time, they'd have to take those curves very slow. It's hard for me to believe the high school cameras there or fire department camera across the street wouldn't pick up a vehicle that time of the night.

We talk a lot about Midway Airport. However, there's a neighborhood in town called Eagles Nest Estates. All the homeowners there (I think 40 homes) have airplanes, personal hangars and a private runway behind their houses. I don't suspect this to be the case here, I just wanted to point out there are multiple places.

JMO...I believe CG leaders and those married to them would know the "lay of the land" better than anyone else. They would have an excuse why they were out at that time of the morning. They'd understand she would walk inside and open up the restroom or facilities. They knew precisely how much time would be needed to get done and out.

On here, many of us put so much effort into dissecting what people say on FB. Perhaps we should focus on those who had NOTHING to say when she was murdered. It's one thing to be her family, in shock and quiet. It's another to know Missy and never acknowledge the loss of this beautiful soul, yet you continue to post about worldly things. That's not a coincidence to me.


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I hear ya! Loud and clear.

Thank you for sharing this with us Breck! I always look forward to your posts. I'm with Momoffour and hear ya loud & clear!! Especially the BBM above!

Night y'all!

 

[ZacksDad]

How would you explain a FB post made at 4:26 am on the Monday morning Missy was murdered? That's pretty much when she was killed. Could someone else have made the post on FB as an alibi?

Are you pacific time zone also? Does FB display time based off posters time zone or the reader. I am in the Pacific time zone and Texas is 2 hours later than me. So 4:26 would be 6:26 AM. Also there are apps that can schedule sending text messages and I am sure it can be programmed to send a FB posting, great alibi if so. Specially if the phone is left at home.

 

[liltexans]

Are you pacific time zone also? Does FB display time based off posters time zone or the reader. I am in the Pacific time zone and Texas is 2 hours later than me. So 4:26 would be 6:26 AM. Also there are apps that can schedule sending text messages and I am sure it can be programmed to send a FB posting, great alibi if so. Specially if the phone is left at home.

No, I'm Central Time. In that case, I don't know when that post was made. That's interesting that you can pre schedule messages. I didn't know that.

 

[sdmike1974]

I think many of us DO think we recognize them. We just want to adhere by the rules on this forum and not name specific individuals until it's a fact by LE.

**Edit: By recognize, I mean they fit the physical description based on body style and theory. I also believe the eyes match.

Very interesting (even significant) if you commented earlier than you rule out Missy's family which you 100% believe they're innocent.

Or am I misquoting you?

Either way, thank you for all your comments from a local perspective.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I'm still 8 pages behind, but…

On BB's FB, on March 5, 2016, he writes: "I recently updated Facebook on my iPhone (actually my 8 yr old chose to update every app on my phone at once). I scroll with my left thumb. SO if you see one of those dang love emojis- or otherwise-coming from me, I guarantee my thumb did it by accident. I don't do public emojis.)"

Q: Is this sufficient for a source or do I need to post an actual link?

:floorlaugh: emojis! That made me think of Wesley Hadsell, AJ Hadsell adopted Dad .. sorry

 

[ZacksDad]

No, I'm Central Time. In that case, I don't know when that post was made. That's interesting that you can pre schedule messages. I didn't know that.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-free-methods-schedule-facebook-updates/

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by IQuestion View Post
Boots Or somebody can't get their story straight, or is really bad at geography??? Just sayin'....headed back from Florida? really? And via Shreveport, too many miles north....if you are trying to take a direct route. Just really, really odd.
http://www.yoga4love.net/in-honor-of...amazing-woman/
Did anybody else notice the geographic inconsistencies in the story told by her friend?
(Now back to pgs I have not read, buh-bye)

I believe heading back from FL is incorrect, as he was in Biloxi, MS. Driving from Biloxi, MS to Midlothian, you would absolutely go through Shreveport, LA. Have driven this route numerous times.

IMHO

I not sure what this is about but here is Google from Biloxi MS to Ovilla Tx https://www.google.com/maps/place/B...7a6051136f6842!8m2!3d30.3960318!4d-88.8853078

 

[Murrayforlife]

To quote Hannibal Lecter, I think everything we need is at our disposal to solve this crime. I think looking very closely at FB pics, family pics(or abscence of certain people from pics) could be very telling IMO. I think the face pic highly resembles a woman. I think the perp could have been planning this a long, long time. Someone who totally disapproved of MB new lifestyle over past 2 yrs etc. Someone wanted to "erase" her from this family, permanently IMO. They had her schedule memorized and down to the minute. I think LE just trying to figure out anyone who may have helped this perp. I think arrest imminent. I think facial recognition nailed this perp along with circumstantial FB evidence. Good ole FB. It is. Good for something after all.

 

[Starry Night]

Well how about if you discover you live in a bad neighborhood?
How would you define a bad neighborhood in that area lol?

By the company it keeps of course.

 

[arkansasmimi]

What is this? Dutch door hallway/ Sanctuary/Auditorium entry that Suspect entered into from hallway

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

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Based off Breck's local observation, I did try to look at others that may be connected to CG. There is one person that is involved in the group that does not seem to mention MB's murder. That person even gets sent a link talking about it and does not even respond there.

So my new thought is maybe this is a person that is ex military and has possibly killed in war time. Also may they know many self-defense skills from the military and possibly even teach it. Just food for thought.

But, what if said person has multiple accounts in various social media (ie. FB personal acct, FB 'page' or business account, business website, Twitter, Instagram, etc) that many in his fitness circle post in? Wouldn't that theory fail if he had addressed her death with a photo in one of those accounts which garnered lots of views and comments? In this scenario, are you saying he's suspect because he doesn't also repost that photo in each and every one of those multiple accounts (expecting overlapping social followers to like and comment repeatedly)?

 

[IQuestion]

I not sure what this is about but here is Google from Biloxi MS to Ovilla Tx https://www.google.com/maps/place/B...7a6051136f6842!8m2!3d30.3960318!4d-88.8853078 View attachment 93831

Thanks ARKANSASMIMI I nominate myself as "most confused poster this evening" ....I kept thinking drive to "Austin"....because MB was in Austin (but for a convention, duh.) I was still confused about the close friend saying husband told her he was making drive from Florida. And, I knew Biloxi was not in Florida. (My Daddy always said "If you are beating a dead horse, might be time to look for a new horse." So I won't mention Florida, again.)

 

[arkansasmimi]

Added DUMPSTER and 3 Camera area's JMHO on those