TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 April 2016 #2

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  • #881
I have been doing a lot of reading tonight. I know that everyone has a side they don't show to others but i could not find one person who had one unkind thing to say about MB. People referred to her as an "angel" and talked about how she had been a guiding light for them. So what could be the motive here? I too am beginning to think we have a mentally ill perp with possible jealousy issues. Nothing else makes any sense at all! I hope they find the perp, and soon, because from what I can read MB was a bright light in a world that needs more light! I feel so sorry for her loved ones!
 
  • #882
I'm still unclear how the 4:35 am time was obtained. Is it from the first participant saying that's when she/he arrived? Or is it from a video time stamp when the participant walked into the church? (And did she/he walk into the church?)

If the 4:35 am is true, the timeline is so unbelievably compressed. Missy is seen on church cameras at 4:20, entering. Somehow the perp gets her out of sight of the hall cameras or hides in the camera-less room where the perp just happens to know Missy will go, kills her, exits, runs to car, rips off outfit, drives down driveway and doesn't meet the arriving 4:35 participant? If the 4:35 time is from the church camera, then the first participant is pulling up around 4:30 and maybe would see the perp leaving.
It is possible someone did see the killer leaving. LE might not want that someone to mention it, and they are likely too scared to discuss it anyway. jmo
 
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There was a struggle, and he killed her. Then he took off.

But why would there be a struggle? Burglary is a relatively minor offense where you can get off with as little as a fine and if this was an experienced burglar, they'd know they have everything to lose and nothing to gain by engaging in any sort of physical violence. It's possible that Missy tried to do a forceful citizen's arrest, but other than that, there's no reason for Missy to initiate a mortal struggle and no reason for a highly disguised and armored to pick a fight instead of doing everything possible to escape with as little violence as necessary as it's not like Missy could name the disguised perp as they made their escape.
 
  • #885
Perhaps she was used to police presence at the hours she worked? Maybe the husband had asked the local PD to check in on her at her early morning locations? Maybe she was a bit startled, but was not scared. She is a physically fit woman. That would give her confidence.

Not me! I would have run across the road and banged on the door to let me in.....
 
  • #886
An unscrupulous contractor goes in the church and damages the HVAC or plumbing system hoping he'll get the contract for the expensive repair job. He wears a disguise and acts like a burglar for the cameras. Only he runs into Missi.

Reaching for straws here. I keep thinking about his tool assortment and saran wrap/foil.
 
  • #887
I've been soooo wrong on cases before, and I could be wrong with my guesses here, too. ;)

I don't know but, SWAT gear with helmet, boots w/ flip-flops... none of this seems like the best attire for a stealthy murderer, or even skillful burglar.

Again, it's as if the perp is "playing dress-up burglary". So strange.

I agree with others who suggest a perp with mental illness.

Or a TBI
 
  • #888
An unscrupulous contractor goes in the church and damages the HVAC or plumbing system hoping he'll get the contract for the expensive repair job. He wears a disguise and acts like a burglar for the cameras. Only he runs into Missi.

Reaching for straws here. I keep thinking about his tool assortment and saran wrap/foil.

I swear I saw a foil-wrapped brick, but probably just my mind playing tricks. One good poster said her husband pointed out it was a doorstop.
 
  • #889
An unscrupulous contractor goes in the church and damages the HVAC or plumbing system hoping he'll get the contract for the expensive repair job. He wears a disguise and acts like a burglar for the cameras. Only he runs into Missi.

Reaching for straws here. I keep thinking about his tool assortment and saran wrap/foil.

Maybe it was a glass and window contractor? How expensive are windows of that caliber to replace and a door, now that I think about it?
 
  • #890
* We're told in the sister-in-law interview that the first call to BB concerning the "accident" was not from LE, but from "the friend that found her" ("He's getting all this information from the friend that found her" is the direct on-camera quote, when SIL Kristi is explaining the initial mix-up in communication about what happened to Missy.)

This is very relevant, IMO. I also don't think the timeline adds up. At all.

Yeah, it's weird how this participant even knew Brandon well enough to call him. Is his number in her phone? (I assume the cops said don't touch Missy's phone.) Or did she call Brandon before the police came using Missy's phone? This participant must've been a very close friend who hung with Brandon and Missy outside of CG.
 
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I'm still unclear how the 4:35 am time was obtained. Is it from the first participant saying that's when she/he arrived? Or is it from a video time stamp when the participant walked into the church? (And did she/he walk into the church?)

If the 4:35 am is true, the timeline is so unbelievably compressed. Missy is seen on church cameras at 4:20, entering. Somehow the perp gets her out of sight of the hall cameras or hides in the camera-less room where the perp just happens to know Missy will go, kills her, exits, runs to car, rips off outfit, drives down driveway and doesn't meet the arriving 4:35 participant? If the 4:35 time is from the church camera, then the first participant is pulling up around 4:30 and maybe would see the perp leaving.

I think LE said that there was no time stamp on the church video ? When they released the last video I think they said that ?
 
  • #893

I wonder about something like LSD. Just throwing it out there while we are grasping. I also like the video game theory some of you have brought up. There is something almost make believe/ cartoon/role playing/ fantasy about this perp and their costume and their actions .
 
  • #894
Yep, you're correct for typical stalking cases, so I've got nothing. Unless it was an online stalking and she wasn't taking it very seriously? But that's just spitballing. I suppose I was just trying to link "perp strikes me as mentally ill or in some kind of weird fugue state" with "seemingly targeted murder".

I've thought about this more. So say that she was aware of the stalker, and that was why she had been quieter than usual at the gym.

Then it makes even less sense that she wasn't, apparently, taking extra precautions when going out to teach that early morning class.

So can we link "perp strikes me as mentally ill or in some kind of weird fugue state" with "seemingly targeted murder"?

Maybe so! Here's what else I thought of.

It's said--or at least it used to be--that many people who commit suicide often seem happiest right before they do the deed. Their loved ones relax, thinking that finally the person whose troubles they are aware of is feeling better, when the fact is that the person has decided to end it all and has come to peace with it because in their mind all their troubles will soon be resolved, by death. So they do feel happier, just not for the same reasons others think.

So maybe this mentally ill person had some kind of issue with Missy and finally decided the answer was to kill her, and appears so calm and complacent and even possibly a bit cheerful, because in their mind all their troubles will soon be resolved, with Missy's death.
 
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I agree.

I have been doing various thought experiments about this all afternoon and all I can come up with is, in that situation (finding my class instructor dead or wounded), unless it was a close family member, like I mean immediate family close, I would not take it upon myself to alert the instructor's spouse about the situation, even if we were good friends. I would leave that to the experts schooled in breaking such news while I gathered my strength so I could be as supportive as possible in the aftermath.

Now that you mention it, yes! My instinct (after the trauma) would be to reach out to MY lifeline of support (my spouse) first. Even if it were my Best Friend, I wouldn't call their spouses. I mean, I would possibly think OMG so&so (SO) but I don't think I would phone them. Hmmm
 
  • #897
But why would there be a struggle? Burglary is a relatively minor offense where you can get off with as little as a fine and if this was an experienced burglar, they'd know they have everything to lose and nothing to gain by engaging in any sort of physical violence. It's possible that Missy tried to do a forceful citizen's arrest, but other than that, there's no reason for Missy to initiate a mortal struggle and no reason for a highly disguised and armored to pick a fight instead of doing everything possible to escape with as little violence as necessary as it's not like Missy could name the disguised perp as they made their escape.

Good points.

Maybe Missy scared the perp on his/her strolling burglary, the perp chose fight (not flight), then struck her on the head with the hammer (this time using his/her non-sissy swing)
 
  • #898
Maybe it was a glass and window contractor? How expensive are windows of that caliber to replace and a door, now that I think about it?

Big jump to go from window replacer drumming up a little business, to murderer. And why do it at 4.30am when you could do it at about 2am and be far less likely to be disturbed? Same goes for burglary, frankly.

The fact that they were there at the same time Missy routinely and publicly was points to it being about Missy alone (especially given nothing was taken).
 
  • #899
Yeah, it's weird how this participant even knew Brandon well enough to call him. Is his number in her phone? (I assume the cops said don't touch Missy's phone.) Or did she call Brandon before the police came using Missy's phone? This participant must've been a very close friend who hung with Brandon and Missy outside of CG.

Yep! I mentioned earlier in the day that I too find that really strange. You come upon your instructor thats dead, that would have freaked me out! I would have dailed 911 immediately, not touching her phone or anything else. The last thing I would have wanted to do would be the one to tell her husband. That part of this is weird IMO
 
  • #900
Big jump to go from window replacer drumming up a little business, to murderer. And why do it at 4.30am when you could do it at about 2am and be far less likely to be disturbed? Same goes for burglary, frankly.

The fact that they were there at the same time Missy routinely and publicly was points to it being about Missy alone (especially given nothing was taken).

:tyou: I concur. Although, the church convolutes the relationship between Missy and the perp.
 
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