TX - Trial of Robert Durst in the murder of Morris Black

[future criminologist]

I would really like to know what he does during the day. He doesn't work. During my periods of unemployment when I was laid off and wasn't in school, I was mostly going insane with worry over how to pay my bills, because I'm not rich like him. But he isn't married, has no kids to take care of, and doesn't have to work. He has homes in 3 or 4 states. What does he DO? and what was he doing from 1994 to now, (except for the time he was on trial in Galveston, or murdering Susan Berman)?

 

[Batman's Mommy]

OK. . . . just gotta ask . . . . . what's with all the peeing? Peed in the brother's waste can, the Uncle's waste can, the candy counter @ the CVS and he (assumingly) was peeing while making his excited utterance "confessions". Is Robert Durst "marking his territory"?

My daughter's friend who works in HR told me he once had to fire a professional person who was quite brilliant in his job but repeatedly would pee in co-worker's desk drawers. Apparently this person and his wife enjoyed this practice and they had many places of employment as a result. I had never heard of such a thing at the time, but then there's this case.

I'm just going to make a WAG, but IMO, it is some type of fetish..... that and showing complete disrespect to whoever is on the receiving end...but that is JMO...

 

[future criminologist]

BBM

Just before saying he "killed them all," he says "I don't know what's in the house!"

http://www.kcra.com/news/sheriff-real-estate-heir-robert-durst-is-suicide-risk/31867962

Could he mean Susan Berman's house? Like he took on this documentary without knowing what was in Berman's house (like the letter he sent) that could implicate him?

 

[epiphany]

I think he did this for 1 of 3 possible reasons, and maybe ALL 3:
1. Marking his territory, like a dog; it's his way of saying to whatever property he is peeing on, "I own you". Quite a sociopathic move if you ask me.
2. He did tell Douglas once that he basically enjoyed f*&king with people - he enjoyed being weird to get a reaction out of people. I think Robert, like other sociopaths, was an "observer" of people and enjoyed conducting his own personal social experiments on them. He just did it because he could, and because he wanted to see how they would react. Sociopaths are also easily bored.
3. I think he never wanted to be part of the family business, was resentful of being rich and being forced to participate in the business, and wanted to see how far he could go before they would kick him out. I think he wanted to get kicked out so he could be free. He also talked in the documentary about being jealous of people he met who were NOT born rich (!) because they could accomplish things on their own merit, not because they had money and connections.

Respectfully BBM ^^

Yet, he showed visible disdain for being expected to sit and listen to Kathie's mother discuss "canning" and articles from Yankee Magazine. No matter what he stated in the documentary, he came across to me as believing he far superior and above such folk.

He despises Daddy's money and rich peeps soo vehemently but he could not walk away from his father's/family's expectations of him without being sure to get a large chunk of Daddy's/Family's wealth for himself.

 

[future criminologist]

Respectfully BBM ^^

Yet, he showed visible disdain for being expected to sit and listen to Kathie's mother discuss "canning" and articles from Yankee Magazine. No matter what he stated in the documentary, he came across to me as believing he far superior and above such folk.

Ooh, you are right, I hadn't thought about that. Hmm. He clearly has very complicated issues with having money, but viewing himself as superior in some ways to those that don't. I remember he also said, about prison, that his cellmates that were viewed by him as poor and disadvantaged, treated him with "respect". So he clearly believes he deserves respect from the people on the lower rungs. But yet, he doesn't note that that respect was most definitely bought by him. There's no way he'd be treated that way by other inmates without being able to buy protection. He really is a fascinating character study, because he's also an unreliable narrator, given what a loose relationship with the "truth" he has.

 

[future criminologist]

BBM

Somthing that has been bugging me about Durst is the knowledge of a "bow saw". This guy doesn't appear to have a lot of hands on manual labor experience (IMO) - where would he gain knowledge that these are required to easily dismember a body? (Are they?) I'm not really familiar with saws and I know each have specific purposes but that just seemed weird.

Robert Durst reminds me a little of Phil Spector.

(I think I broke the quote - sorry)

Kathie Durst was in medical school. In the last episode they noted that she talked a lot about the cadavers she had to practice on. Maybe he learned the how-to of it from her, and then "practiced" (shudder at the thought) on all the dead Igors.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

H
Thanks for the article, but Douglas and the rest did nothing to help LE or the Mcormick's when Kathy went missing. Meanwhile, in reality it seems as though they probably suspected that Robert killed her. Their business and family name was more important then helping police.

IMO, the Dursts are looking out for their name, and have for many years. The other article that I posted, referencing the lawsuit filed in January by Douglas, specifically states something to this affect.

“Douglas Durst is worried the The Jinx will be a violent broadside against the family name and history,” the petition states. - See more at: http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/03...ts-on-a-single-question/#sthash.md4jDy11.dpuf


How does that calculate into Kathie's disappearance?

Last night, I was able to re-watch episode 2, all of 3, and most of 4. IMO, there were 2 specific things that stood out to me in regards to Kathie's disappearance and the investigation that made me wonder whether or not the family may have had influence.
1. the doorman's statement that he saw her enter the building
2. the dean of the school of medicine stating that he had spoken to her the following morning
IMO, if $$$ could influence people into providing a false statement, these two instances struck me as being the opportunity for that to occur in this instance. I wonder if the Durst company made any significant contributions to that school of medicine? Or held any influence in/over their board of supervisors? Maybe they had sold the school the property that it sits on? Just thoughts that I had while watching the show last night.

IMO, Kathie Durst never got on the train. IMO, the fact that Robert Durst made up a lie about the neighbor AND walking the dog, and then, IMO, very nonchalantly states something to the effect that no one always tells the truth, and because he thought it would further LE's belief that Kathie had gone into the city...I was shocked. IMO, people with nothing to hide always tell the truth. They don't need to make up stories to make police believe a story. That is just BS. He even stated that they had a physical altercation over the car, but "at the last minute" she decided to take the train??? WTH does that mean? His entire commentary on the events of that night made my hair stand on end. IMO, he has repeated a lot of these statements over and over for years. It was evident when he would say something, and then change one word in the sentence, flippantly with his hand motions, that made me think that he was remembering how he was "supposed" to make the statement.... Considering that she had just filed for divorce, and she was afraid of him, what made her go to where he was that night? Was it over the car?

:gaah:

 

[future criminologist]

Nah.. They need to get him on the murder and they can. Even 15 years later.
New Orleans should let him go to LA and be arrested and put in jail for murder. If for some insane reason he is not convicted then by all means bring him back to NO for the weapons charges.

I wonder how much time he can get on the weapons charge, considering how old he is, 5-10 might be sufficient.

But then again it's New Orleans, with their notoriously lenient, look the other way judicial system. California is probably their best shot at getting him behind bars for an extended period of time.

 

[epiphany]

I think he did this for 1 of 3 possible reasons, and maybe ALL 3:
1. Marking his territory, like a dog; it's his way of saying to whatever property he is peeing on, "I own you". Quite a sociopathic move if you ask me.
2. He did tell Douglas once that he basically enjoyed f*&king with people - he enjoyed being weird to get a reaction out of people. I think Robert, like other sociopaths, was an "observer" of people and enjoyed conducting his own personal social experiments on them. He just did it because he could, and because he wanted to see how they would react. Sociopaths are also easily bored.
3. I think he never wanted to be part of the family business, was resentful of being rich and being forced to participate in the business, and wanted to see how far he could go before they would kick him out. I think he wanted to get kicked out so he could be free. He also talked in the documentary about being jealous of people he met who were NOT born rich (!) because they could accomplish things on their own merit, not because they had money and connections.

Respectfully BBM ^^

Yes, I agree!

Reminded me of the opening episode of this season's House of Cards when Frank Underwood urinates on Daddy's headstone when he's visiting his grave at the cemetery.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Just turned on CNN. They have a story coming up about Durst being put on suicide watch and sent to another facility. Details to come I guess.

He is not suicidal. Not at all. He is homicidal and ticked at the world.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I wonder how much time he can get on the weapons charge, considering how old he is, 5-10 might be sufficient.

But then again it's New Orleans, with their notoriously lenient, look the other way judicial system. California is probably their best shot at getting him behind bars for an extended period of time.

For me it is not about the time behind bars, it is catching him for the murders he committed.

 

[wenwe4]

I'm just going to make a WAG, but IMO, it is some type of fetish..... that and showing complete disrespect to whoever is on the receiving end...but that is JMO...

Ha ha ha . . . . just making note of your WAG in reference to peeing to mark territory. OT - my puppy can't wag her tail because she was severely abused (we rescued her from a special needs shelter) but she sure can mark her territory!

Speaking of dogs . . . . What happened to the SEVEN Igors? (Ivor?)

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

IMO, the Dursts are looking out for their name, and have for many years. The other article that I posted, referencing the lawsuit filed in January by Douglas, specifically states something to this affect.

“Douglas Durst is worried the The Jinx will be a violent broadside against the family name and history,” the petition states. - See more at: http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/03...ts-on-a-single-question/#sthash.md4jDy11.dpuf


How does that calculate into Kathie's disappearance?

Last night, I was able to re-watch episode 2, all of 3, and most of 4. IMO, there were 2 specific things that stood out to me in regards to Kathie's disappearance and the investigation that made me wonder whether or not the family may have had influence.
1. the doorman's statement that he saw her enter the building
2. the dean of the school of medicine stating that he had spoken to her the following morning
IMO, if $$$ could influence people into providing a false statement, these two instances struck me as being the opportunity for that to occur in this instance. I wonder if the Durst company made any significant contributions to that school of medicine? Or held any influence in/over their board of supervisors? Maybe they had sold the school the property that it sits on? Just thoughts that I had while watching the show last night.

IMO, Kathie Durst never got on the train. IMO, the fact that Robert Durst made up a lie about the neighbor AND walking the dog, and then, IMO, very nonchalantly states something to the effect that no one always tells the truth, and because he thought it would further LE's belief that Kathie had gone into the city...I was shocked. IMO, people with nothing to hide always tell the truth. They don't need to make up stories to make police believe a story. That is just BS. He even stated that they had a physical altercation over the car, but "at the last minute" she decided to take the train??? WTH does that mean? His entire commentary on the events of that night made my hair stand on end. IMO, he has repeated a lot of these statements over and over for years. It was evident when he would say something, and then change one word in the sentence, flippantly with his hand motions, that made me think that he was remembering how he was "supposed" to make the statement.... Considering that she had just filed for divorce, and she was afraid of him, what made her go to where he was that night? Was it over the car?

:gaah:

The doorman never saw her. Not once. That was spin put on the case. The doorman stated over and over he never saw her. Durst said that he said he called Kathie because " That puts her in NY." He admits to lying about that.

The problem is that there was never a search or active investigation at the home where they lived until a long time after when Jeaninne pirro took over. No one ever investigated this as anything more than a missing persons case. My bet is that she is either buried somewhere on that property or in that lake.

 

[murphy3k]

I wonder how much time he can get on the weapons charge, considering how old he is, 5-10 might be sufficient.

But then again it's New Orleans, with their notoriously lenient, look the other way judicial system. California is probably their best shot at getting him behind bars for an extended period of time.

Durst was not charged with marijuana possession, apparently because of the weight of the amount seized and because the potential penalty is stiffer on the gun charge in conjunction with a controlled substance. Conviction on that charge would bring a minimum 5- to 10-year sentence in Louisiana. Felons convicted of gun possession in the state can face 7½-20 years, depending upon the nature of the previous felony conviction.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/03/robert_dursts_new_orleans_gun.html#incart_2box

 

[epiphany]

I got the impression "Kathie's" phone call to the dean that she was sick and would not be in that day may have been placed by SB. Who knows what he may have said to her at that time in order to make the call.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

Kathie Durst was in medical school. In the last episode they noted that she talked a lot about the cadavers she had to practice on. Maybe he learned the how-to of it from her, and then "practiced" (shudder at the thought) on all the dead Igors.

I thought that, too!!! Especially, the use of the word cadaver in the letter!!

IMO, by using that word, it was a way to have no emotional connection to the human being who was murdered. A way to disconnect from any emotional attachment, IMO.

 

[epiphany]

Robert Durst was apparently trying to change his identity with a latex rubber mask and a new name, and that's when authorities swooped in and arrested him ... TMZ has learned.

According to the search warrant, which we obtained, the mask -- which was recovered in the New Orleans hotel room where he was arrested -- covered his head and neck and served to completely alter the characteristics of his face. Cops also found a fake Texas ID with the name Everette Ward.

BBM

http://www.tmz.com/2015/03/18/robert-durst-murder-search-warrant-latex-mask-identity-the-jinx/

 

[stillwatersc]

Kathie Durst was in medical school. In the last episode they noted that she talked a lot about the cadavers she had to practice on. Maybe he learned the how-to of it from her, and then "practiced" (shudder at the thought) on all the dead Igors.

OOOOHhhh!!! He was jealous of Kathie's experiences with the cadavers!

 

[future criminologist]

Man, I'd love to see a conversation between Robert Durst and Frank Underwood. That would be quite the battle of wits!

 

[future criminologist]

Robert Durst was apparently trying to change his identity with a latex rubber mask and a new name, and that's when authorities swooped in and arrested him ... TMZ has learned.

According to the search warrant, which we obtained, the mask -- which was recovered in the New Orleans hotel room where he was arrested -- covered his head and neck and served to completely alter the characteristics of his face. Cops also found a fake Texas ID with the name Everette Ward.

BBM

http://www.tmz.com/2015/03/18/robert-durst-murder-search-warrant-latex-mask-identity-the-jinx/

(BBM)
WTF?? And he thought he'd get away with it? Yeah, that doesn't look weird or anything, Bob. I think he thinks he's a Batman villain.