TX - Unidentified victims of Dean Corll, Houston Serial Killer, 1970-1973

I could not agree more. This case is largely forgotten and obscure because the primary perpetrator and mastermind was killed before his crimes were uncovered and the incompetence of the HPD was laid bare so it was closed as far as the search for victims is concerned as soon as the record was surpassed. And yes, Henley and Brooks paid for Corll's crimes as well as their own.

If you look at the two crudely drawn maps of the boat shed, both show a suspiciously desolate semicircle in the lower right. It is pretty obvious given the developments revealing Donald John Falcon's arm bones being buried close to Victim 12 that the remainder of his body is still there and probably at least one other.

In my opinion, based on everything I have read, Corll killed at least forty victims. As for the ID of Victim 16 as Branch, that is still not definite as retained samples were used to make that conclusion and the crude and disrespectful way the bodies were unearthed meant appendages and bones in overlapping and multiple graves meant sections of victims' bones were mixed with others'. Still, the original autopsy report for Victim 12 originally estimated his age to be between 22 and 24, whereas Branch was 18.
I've studied this case for a while - not recently as I just learned today of the new developments of Donald Falcon's remains being identified in the boat shed. If I'm correct they made this ID in 2014 but the public just learned about it?

However, even though the boat shed excavation was done extremely poorly, I don't believe they missed any complete bodies in the boat shed. First of all, here is an excerpt from the 1974 book "Mass Murder In Houston" by John K. Gurwell:

They had dug a huge pit the width and length of the boat stall and to a depth of six feet. There they hit solid rock of a gray, almost cement-like texture. The last foot or two of digging was the worst. What was left at the bottom was mostly sloshy mud. The men waded in it to get out the last shovel full so they wouldn't miss anything that might be evidence — a belt buckle, or a cigar lighter with initials on it. . . anything that might help later in identifying the bodies.
Unless the source is wrong or Gurwell wrote misinformation, I would completely believe they completely dug up the entire shed. The detectives that dug up the shed weren't that incompetent and there's no way they would have missed a complete skeleton in the area you have circled in the boat shed diagram.

Also, there is a documentary out there, it used to be on YouTube but got taken down (probably due to copyright) about the murders that I believe was from around 2013? or so were they actually went inside the shed again with the lead investigator, David Mullican, and actually showed what the inside of the shed looks like now: the dirt floor is now completely concrete. If there really were a a bunch of leftover remains that the original 1973 excavation, I think the people who put in the cement floor would have found them and called police again. That's just my theory, as I don't have the documentary on hand since it got taken down and I don't know much about converting dirt floors into concrete floors, but that's just what I wanted to say.

Not trying to be rude or derogatory but this is what I have read and seen, I believe they recovered everything they possibly could have out of there.
 
I've studied this case for a while - not recently as I just learned today of the new developments of Donald Falcon's remains being identified in the boat shed. If I'm correct they made this ID in 2014 but the public just learned about it?

However, even though the boat shed excavation was done extremely poorly, I don't believe they missed any complete bodies in the boat shed. First of all, here is an excerpt from the 1974 book "Mass Murder In Houston" by John K. Gurwell:


Unless the source is wrong or Gurwell wrote misinformation, I would completely believe they completely dug up the entire shed. The detectives that dug up the shed weren't that incompetent and there's no way they would have missed a complete skeleton in the area you have circled in the boat shed diagram.

Also, there is a documentary out there, it used to be on YouTube but got taken down (probably due to copyright) about the murders that I believe was from around 2013? or so were they actually went inside the shed again with the lead investigator, David Mullican, and actually showed what the inside of the shed looks like now: the dirt floor is now completely concrete. If there really were a a bunch of leftover remains that the original 1973 excavation, I think the people who put in the cement floor would have found them and called police again. That's just my theory, as I don't have the documentary on hand since it got taken down and I don't know much about converting dirt floors into concrete floors, but that's just what I wanted to say.

Not trying to be rude or derogatory but this is what I have read and seen, I believe they recovered everything they possibly could have out of there.
Do you think there are other bodies out there? I'm inclined to believe that the boat shed was at capacity. The owner said Dean inquired about renting another boat shed. I believe that their are more bodies buried at the two other locations.
 
Ramsland likely fell for all of Henley's 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. You can see it in Lise Olsen's new book, about Mark Scott's death.
Fyi, anything Lise Olsen has ever written about Henley or anything that makes him appear to be a worse person than he is, is almost certainly a fabrication. The numerous lies and carefully structured sentences (Henley wanting to surpass Gacy's victim record for example) make this plain. I spoke to a family friend and longtime correspondent of Henley named Brittany Burns and she said that Olsen attempted multiple times to get Henley to talk with her but he refused—and then shared a lot of things with Katherine Ramsland. Olsen wasn't too pleased about this, so I suspect the reason for all of this is to spite him and ruin any goodwill Katherine Ramsland's book has brought him with the public. That's likely why there are so many things in Olsen's book that contradict with Ramsland's position on him, it's all designed to make him look like a liar. Case in point: The Mark Scott murder.

This entire interview Sharon Derrick supposedly had with Henley about Mark Scott was completely and utterly fictionalized. I contacted Derrick and she said none of those details about Scott's murder came from her conversations with Henley, or that she even spoke with Henley all that much. Apparently Derrick got the details from the HC Medical Examiner Records (which have their own credibility issues), and that combined with the fact that Olsen takes liberties with the truth, makes it difficult to know how many of the details given about Scott's murder are accurate. Some stuff was too specific to be completely made up, and I'm not denying that there are kernels of truth somewhere in there, it's just hard to tell who participated in what exactly.

What we do know for sure is that there was no torture board during Scott's murder, and his cause of death was definitely strangulation, not a gunshot wound, which is why Steven Sickman was misidentified as him. According to Brittany Burns, Henley has always insisted that Scott was strangled to death (something supported by several statements over the years). When I gently prodded Olsen about all of this, she panicked and blocked me. Knowing all of this, I think we can all come to the conclusion that Henley's version of Scott's death in Ramsland's book is more reliable. And for anyone that wants to say that Henley is lying to minimize his involvement, let's not forget that the reason he said he couldn't kill Scott was because strangling him to death was too physically exhausting. That's horrific and honestly makes him look worse in a way. Besides, right after that he admitted to almost single-handedly killing Billy Baulch and Johnny Delome. So I just don't see any reason to doubt that Corll was the one who ultimately murdered Mark Scott.

There are also several details about Mark Scott's death that Olsen doesn't mention, like the incense cone torture. I see no reason for Henley to fabricate that detail, as it was a method of torture previously not linked to this case, and mentioning it adds to his complicity. And Ramsland confirmed to me in an email what was implied in the book, that Henley participated in using the incense. I also know from Burns that Brooks participated in strangling Scott. The bottom line is: If Henley was really confessing to all of his sins regarding Scott to Derrick in a tell-all interview, why did he not share THESE particulars with her as well? We know that in her book, Ramsland didn't fixate on all the 'torture p@rrn' elements that Henley shared with her, as they weren't always relevant, whereas in Olsen's case the gory details would've been a goldmine (from a journalist's pov).

BTW, I can send you proof of all of my conversations with these people, if you doubt me.
 
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What exactly do you think he's hiding (genuinely curious)? It's highly unlikely that he was involved in more than the 13 murders he confessed too. It should be noted that he didn't have to implicate himself later in life over the murders not mentioned in his confessions and conversations to police, but he did. He also insisted Mark Scott had been misidentified and Sharon Derrick has stated that he was helpful to her, even some investigators have said similar stuff.

It's particularly telling from this quote by Josh Vargas: "I asked him the hardest question right off the bat......'How many did you kill?' There's no definitive answer. He looked at me and said, 'Well, Josh, the answer to that's not good.' I said, 'Well, I would imagine.' He said, 'Well, I'll put it to you this way: I'm convicted for six, I know for a fact I remember eight, but I'm pretty sure it's about as high as 13.' That's when I knew he was going to shoot straight with me." Source: Real Horror: Local Filmmaker Brings the Horrific Crimes of Dean Corll to the Silver Screen

Ramsland also said he didn't try to dodge responsibility in his conversations with her and that she had to help him with the trauma caused by his role in the murders, which is why I'm guessing she was so overly sympathetic towards him in her book.

About his desperation for parole, I've spoken to an 8 year correspondent (Brittany Burns, listed in Ramsland's book in the acknowledgements) of his who has said he doesn't think he deserves freedom and rarely goes to parole hearings. He didn't actually even request compassionate release, prison officials asked him to sign the papers so he did. Burns is trying to convince him to go to his next parole hearing but often it doesn't even matter as they reject him outright and don't even do the hearing. I believe she said that last time he actually tried was after his mother's begging because she was old and dying and wanted to see him as a free man before she passed. It seems his portrayal in the media as someone desperate for parole is misleading, supported by uncontextualized quotes.
Thank you for the information about his parole hearing.
When I wrote that message, I thought that Henley was basing his opinion on some facts that he did not want to disclose. Secondly, I got the impression that he might not have taken part, but he knew about other crimes. But because he is the only one currently charged in the case, even telling the truth could lead to another criminal case, which Henley would not want. ( You can also mention the publicity that followed the identification of several victims. And statements (I don't remember who, alas) that new murder cases should be opened) One of the things that led me to this idea was that Henley did not recognize the victims of the "lost guys" whose sketches Derrick showed, although from my memory one of them was well known to him.
What exactly do you think he's hiding (genuinely curious)? It's highly unlikely that he was involved in more than the 13 murders he confessed too. It should be noted that he didn't have to implicate himself later in life over the murders not mentioned in his confessions and conversations to police, but he did. He also insisted Mark Scott had been misidentified and Sharon Derrick has stated that he was helpful to her, even some investigators have said similar stuff.

It's particularly telling from this quote by Josh Vargas: "I asked him the hardest question right off the bat......'How many did you kill?' There's no definitive answer. He looked at me and said, 'Well, Josh, the answer to that's not good.' I said, 'Well, I would imagine.' He said, 'Well, I'll put it to you this way: I'm convicted for six, I know for a fact I remember eight, but I'm pretty sure it's about as high as 13.' That's when I knew he was going to shoot straight with me." Source: Real Horror: Local Filmmaker Brings the Horrific Crimes of Dean Corll to the Silver Screen

Ramsland also said he didn't try to dodge responsibility in his conversations with her and that she had to help him with the trauma caused by his role in the murders, which is why I'm guessing she was so overly sympathetic towards him in her book.

About his desperation for parole, I've spoken to an 8 year correspondent (Brittany Burns, listed in Ramsland's book in the acknowledgements) of his who has said he doesn't think he deserves freedom and rarely goes to parole hearings. He didn't actually even request compassionate release, prison officials asked him to sign the papers so he did. Burns is trying to convince him to go to his next parole hearing but often it doesn't even matter as they reject him outright and don't even do the hearing. I believe she said that last time he actually tried was after his mother's begging because she was old and dying and wanted to see him as a free man before she passed. It seems his portrayal in the media as someone desperate for parole is misleading, supported by uncontextualized quotes.
Thank you for the information about his parole hearing.
When I wrote that message, I thought that Henley was basing his opinion on some facts that he did not want to disclose. I understood these hints about the other guys possibly being Corll's accomplices to mean that Henley knew more than he was telling Ramsland. I don't understand why it would be said like that by Henley. But, of course, it can all just be chatter.

Secondly, I got the impression that he might not have taken part, but he knew about other crimes. This is partly because some other missing persons cases happened at that time. Corll or Brooks could have mentioned this, as we know from Henley himself that they sometimes talked about past crimes, including where bodies were buried. Memory can return even in prison, especially when he is not drinking or taking drugs as much. But because he is the only one currently charged in the case, even telling the truth could lead to another criminal case, which Henley would not want. ( You can also mention the publicity that followed the identification of several victims. And statements (I don't remember who, alas) that new murder cases should be opened) One of the things that led me to this idea was that Henley did not recognize "lost boys" whose sketches Derrick showed, although from my memory one of them was well known to him.
 
When I wrote that message, I thought that Henley was basing his opinion on some facts that he did not want to disclose.
Keep in mind that in interviews available for the public (especially when they're not part of a book), you don't always get the whole picture since it's often just a brief glimpse that isn't fully expanded on, leaving room for open questions. I do know that there's a lot Henley told Ramsland that wasn't mentioned in the book, she spent a very long-time interviewing him and even taped some of their conversations. So it might look like he's basing his opinion on facts that he hasn't disclosed, when in fact he has disclosed them (and not just to Ramsland), just not to the general public.

I understood these hints about the other guys possibly being Corll's accomplices to mean that Henley knew more than he was telling Ramsland. I don't understand why it would be said like that by Henley. But, of course, it can all just be chatter.
Well, you're not that far off. I do know for a fact that Henley disclosed details about the suspected accomplices to Ramsland which she didn't publish but afaik they were mostly just anecdotes (with a few exceptions). I don't think Henley knows anything truly useful about the suspected accomplices, just tangible hints, because it was in Corll's best interest to not share such information and keep his cards close to the chest. Brooks almost definitely knew about other accomplices (if there were in fact any) but he was much more submissive and easily controlled than Henley, and it still would've been risky for Corll to share everything with him due to fears of mutiny and etc. Besides, both Henley and Brooks described Corll as being secretive (and reading between the lines, paranoid), so anything either could offer is really just part of a larger picture. And the fact that Henley only recognized a lot of things regarding the crimes in hindsight speaks volumes about how much he didn't know of back then.
Secondly, I got the impression that he might not have taken part, but he knew about other crimes. This is partly because some other missing persons cases happened at that time. Corll or Brooks could have mentioned this, as we know from Henley himself that they sometimes talked about past crimes, including where bodies were buried. Memory can return even in prison, especially when he is not drinking or taking drugs as much.
I have no doubt that a lot of the missing boys from the 1970-1973 timespan vanished because of Corll, but hitchhiking and running away was common in those days, so the pattern wasn't hard to dismiss. Corll was also pretty savvy in his approach at procurement, he didn't make the dissappearances look blatantly connected when he killed kids that were either connected to him, each other or both. Billy Baulch and Malley Winkle both worked for him, so there's an obvious link, but they each dissappeared long after the other was gone, so you could've chalked it up to a coincidence at the time. He would also pick kids who were affiliated with one another in his double murders, so the police would've had an easier time saying they just ran away together. Additionally, Corll kept both his helpers high on drugs and alcohol, which could excuse not linking all the missing boys in that timespan to the HMM. Steven Sickman lived close to where the Brooks family resided, but Corll killed him alone and I'm pretty confident that Brooks didn't even know the kid's name. David Hilligiest was Henley's childhood friend and neighbor but Henley had absolutely nothing to do with his murder. All this taken into account, I can understand Henley not knowing more than he's revealed about additional victims, specifically in private, as I know for a fact that there are things he has said to multiple people in regards to helping with the case (LEOs, Sharon Derrick, FBI), that isn't public knowledge.

The stuff Corll and Brooks did reveal to Henley about past crimes in specific terms were regarding Malley Winkle, David Hilligiest, Ruben Haney and etc. Kids he would've likely linked to them as he either vaguely knew them or had heard of their affiliation with Corll and Brooks. Telling Henley about these kids was basically a necessity. Beyond that, they only shared bits and pieces with him, and were often vague (mentioned in Ramsland's book). Henley didn't even know how many bodies were in the boatshed, he was clearly surprised by the body count as per Jack Olsen's book. He told a reporter during the initial searches that there were 24 bodies in all (going off by what Corll told him), and he was clearly wrong. So I think it's evident that Corll kept a lot of things from him. A lot of his insights are tangential because of that.
( You can also mention the publicity that followed the identification of several victims. And statements (I don't remember who, alas) that new murder cases should be opened) One of the things that led me to this idea was that Henley did not recognize "lost boys" whose sketches Derrick showed, although from my memory one of them was well known to him.
None of the previously unidentified Lost Boys were known to him, although he knew and tried to help with what he thought were misidentifications. He didn't participate in those murders and a couple were complete strangers to him (like Sickman). I think he was loosely linked to Randall Harvey as they went to the same school but that boy was killed before his involvement and something like this doesn't really equal a connection. The Heights was one of Corll's preferred hunting ground and it wasn't exactly a large community so the victim pool is bound to overlap, even if the accomplices didn't know the kids at all or were somewhat acquainted. Even the types of kids EWH and Brooks lured and the places they went looking for them were things Corll advised them on. In other words, a large amount of the overlap is because of Corll, not his accomplices (although they did sometimes take initiative).

I think the kid you may be referring to is Rusty Branch, who I believe was (incorrectly) identified prior to the 2000s and this was later corrected in 2021. According to his sister Susan McLemore, he and Henley were friends, Henley introduced him to Corll, and Henley was the last person to be seen with him before his dissappearance. However, there are issues with this. This openly contradicts her own claims of being at Corll's parties with Branch well before Henley even met Corll (just compare her words with the timeline), she claimed almost all of the victims and kids at the parties were friends of both accomplices (incorrect), and Henley has said privately to Burns and Ramsland that he didn't know Branch at all, much less helped kill him. McLemore was very young when this all happened, there was substance abuse at these parties and she had to undergo therapy to unlock some of her memories, which doesn't make for a particularly reliable witness. The victims relatives are also somewhat known for making dubious claims. I'm not saying that they're necessarily outright lying, but it all happened a long time ago and was obviously a traumatic experience, which can cloud one's perception. There's also the issue that Henley became the public face of the crimes, so his involvement tends to get severely overstated, which can lead to witnesses having a bias and coming to the wrong conclusions about what they saw (or didn't see).

Case in point: There were two stories of suspicious Galveston beach burial sightings in March and May of 1973. Given how slipshod the police work was on this I don't really trust the reports, they state the witnesses identified DC/DB & EWH burying plastic bundles, though Henley was away from Houston in early 1973 and neither him nor Brooks ever mentioned Galveston as a burial spot. The photos used to ID them were also atrocious btw. And we know for a fact that police reports were doctored. There's a publicly available one by Paul Gale where he talks about his encounter with Corll and the possibility he was involved in the dissappearance of a girl. The police report mentions that thus either happened in 1970 or 1971 and that Gale said Henley was somehow involved but in Lise Olsen's book Gale clarifies that this all happened in 1969 (before the involvement of either boy). He told the cops about Brooks not Henley (although neither could've been involved). Even aside from that, LEOs were known to feed the public and victims families false information (for reasons unknown).

Sidenote: It doesn't appear to be well-known but even before getting involved in the killings, DB and EWH would brings boys (and girls) over to Corll's place, or ride in his van as he cruised for boys, before they were aware of the danger he posed (which is the story behind that chilling comment Greg Hilligiest made abt Henley and Corll wanting to take him fishing). But Brooks was more a part of that whole thing than Henley. I only mention this because it clarifies that not every single time they were out with Corll were they personally doing anything sinister.
 
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The young man in the Polaroid. I see some saying on here they can't see his legs. I can see them, he appears to me to be wearing like casual plaid pants. He's crouched and cowering. Have been looking at this image for some time, and at first, I thought he was beneath or behind old crumbled/cracked drywall. I wondered if he wasn't beneath a floor that was opened back up, or behind a wall. Thinking this through, I don't think that's a house (?) at least not one that's ever been on the radar with Corll. They demolished Lamar. I can't picture him permanently storing victims in the walls or foundation at the candy store building. All I see for him other than that is apartments, that's a no. But there's that boat shed, and it just occurs to me that when I look at that picture, it feels like I may be looking down into the interior of a small wooden boat. And if that's what it is, the stuff in front of the young man may be real or supposed fishing gear. And what I thought at first was drywall may be a canvas type of tarp over the boat that someone ripped or sliced through.

I think the young man in the Polaroid looks like this missing yourng man:
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Darren (in some sources Derran) Conway Rogers. Missing from Modesto 2/23/1973. 13 yo, 6',150lbs. I know I've seen comments on here about how the young man in the Polaroid looks like he is already dead, and one eye looks damaged. I agree one eye does look a bit different from the other. Darren was partially blind in one eye, and I'm wondering if that could be part of the explanation.
 
The young man in the Polaroid. I see some saying on here they can't see his legs. I can see them, he appears to me to be wearing like casual plaid pants. He's crouched and cowering. Have been looking at this image for some time, and at first, I thought he was beneath or behind old crumbled/cracked drywall. I wondered if he wasn't beneath a floor that was opened back up, or behind a wall. Thinking this through, I don't think that's a house (?) at least not one that's ever been on the radar with Corll. They demolished Lamar. I can't picture him permanently storing victims in the walls or foundation at the candy store building. All I see for him other than that is apartments, that's a no. But there's that boat shed, and it just occurs to me that when I look at that picture, it feels like I may be looking down into the interior of a small wooden boat. And if that's what it is, the stuff in front of the young man may be real or supposed fishing gear. And what I thought at first was drywall may be a canvas type of tarp over the boat that someone ripped or sliced through.
The Polaroid photo theory was a hoax created by Josh Vargas to generate publicity for his movie. He lied and said that Henley didn't recognize the boy and buried stuff about the reality of the situation. Mary Henley and EWH both confirmed that the boy in the photo was Ronnie Henley. It was never a possible victim.
 
The Polaroid photo theory was a hoax created by Josh Vargas to generate publicity for his movie. He lied and said that Henley didn't recognize the boy and buried stuff about the reality of the situation. Mary Henley and EWH both confirmed that the boy in the photo was Ronnie Henley. It was never a possible victim.
Interesting. Now, just asking, is it a fact it's a hoax? The problem is that I don't think just because Henley's saying it's a hoax-- I don't think that truly makes it such. Believe me, I wondered if it wasn't Henley himself when I saw it, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is no substance to it.

I'd want to be sure, though. It sounds like different authors and researchers are kind of hashing out lines on certain issues and the points aren't specifically proven yet.

I totally get you on this that it may well be one. Is it a definite as of yet, though? Again, Henley saying it is a hoax (or not) doesn't make it so one way or the other in my mind, but jmo. If not a fact, I'd continue to examine that image as a potential victim. Jmo, I am sure Corll has more victims. And I did examine the photo pretty carefully, and determined it wasn't Henley himself, and went to looking at those where it might be a possible match. Honestly, I'll continue to do that if all I really have to go by is Henley saying it's x or y or z.
 
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Interesting. Now, just asking, is it a fact it's a hoax? The problem is that I don't think just because Henley's saying it's a hoax-- I don't think that truly makes it such. Believe me, I wondered if it wasn't Henley himself when I saw it, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is no substance to it.

I'd want to be sure, though. It sounds like different authors and researchers are kind of hashing out lines on certain issues and the points aren't specifically proven yet.

I totally get you on this that it may well be one. Is it a definite as of yet, though? Again, Henley saying it is a hoax (or not) doesn't make it so one way or the other in my mind, but jmo. If not a fact, I'd continue to examine that image as a potential victim. Jmo, I am sure Corll has more victims. And I did examine the photo pretty carefully, and determined it wasn't Henley himself, and went to looking at those where it might be a possible match. Honestly, I'll continue to do that if all I really have to go by is Henley saying it's x or y or z.
It's a fact that this is a hoax. Henley's mom confirmed that it was her son Ronnie in that photo, so it's not just EWH saying this.

Here's a line regarding this from The Serial Killer's Apprentice by Katherine Ramsland: "Josh Vargas did add some notoriety to the case. When he sorted through Henley’s items in storage, he claimed to have discovered a Polaroid photo of a boy who appeared to be bound, crouching near a toolbox— supposedly Corll’s infamous toolbox. He told the press about this, which generated headlines announcing a possible twenty-ninth victim. In an exchange on social media, Rhonda Williams accused Vargas of photoshopping it. Henley’s mother identified it as a photo of her son, Ronnie, out in the toolshed. Yet the news stories were not retracted or corrected."

He also made up a bunch of other lies and his movie wasn't as accurate to the reality of the situation as much as people think it is.

BTW, Henley is very cooperative and relatively honest about the case. All his insights have been mined, though not to an official public capacity. Brooks was the untrustworthy one.
 
It's a fact that this is a hoax. Henley's mom confirmed that it was her son Ronnie in that photo, so it's not just EWH saying this.

Here's a line regarding this from The Serial Killer's Apprentice by Katherine Ramsland: "Josh Vargas did add some notoriety to the case. When he sorted through Henley’s items in storage, he claimed to have discovered a Polaroid photo of a boy who appeared to be bound, crouching near a toolbox— supposedly Corll’s infamous toolbox. He told the press about this, which generated headlines announcing a possible twenty-ninth victim. In an exchange on social media, Rhonda Williams accused Vargas of photoshopping it. Henley’s mother identified it as a photo of her son, Ronnie, out in the toolshed. Yet the news stories were not retracted or corrected."

He also made up a bunch of other lies and his movie wasn't as accurate to the reality of the situation as much as people think it is.

BTW, Henley is very cooperative and relatively honest about the case. All his insights have been mined, though not to an official public capacity. Brooks was the untrustworthy one.
I get what you're saying on this, and Katherine Ramsland is obviously brilliant. So Ramsland does believe these relatives and friends of Henley that stepped forward. It's Ronnie out in their toolshed.

Did they have a wooden boat out in their toolshed? Because I definitely might be wrong, but it looks like the person in that image is inside a wooden boat. And I mean Corll had what? He had a boat shed. Why? Why a boat shed and not a standard storage unit? There didn't seem to be anything in there that necessitated the high ceilings or anything else "boat." Maybe it's standard practice in some regions to get a boat shed instead of standard storage, I've got no idea.

I saw a Daily Mail article discussing the film (yes, I know it's Daily Mail) and noting the following: When Mr Vargas took the photo to Henley in prison, he said he could not recall the victim but said there were other young boys who had still not been identified.

Now, assuming this is true (big "if," but we don't know as of yet), wouldn't Henley have immediately known it was Ronnie? And in fairness to Henley, I have to agree, perhaps not. I am quite serious when I say I checked to make sure it wasn't Henley himself. Does the book say anything about the film people saying they approached Henley at the time and they in actuality didn't do so?

I'd like to believe Henley is as truthful as you say, and as Ramsland seems to believe.

I'm just not sure I do as of yet, though. But you can take my word for it, I'd like to believe it, and point noted that Ramsland does believe it on Ronnie, and I think it's possible as well. Does Henley deserve the benefit of the doubt? I don't know, all jmo.
 
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I saw a Daily Mail article discussing the film (yes, I know it's Daily Mail) and noting the following: When Mr Vargas took the photo to Henley in prison, he said he could not recall the victim but said there were other young boys who had still not been identified.
With all due respect, did you even read my first comment? Josh Vargas LIED when he said that Henley didn't recognize the boy in the photograph. He also claimed that the actor playing Henley was wearing the same bloodstained T-Shirt that Henley was wearing the night he killed Corll (which Henley refuted). It was a ridiculous claim. Henley wasn't wearing a T-Shirt when he killed Corll and the cops would've seized it as evidence lol. I could go on. Vargas is not a reliable source.

I have absolutely no idea where this picture was taken, and nor can you tell by studying it. What I do know is that it makes no sense for Henley to have a victim’s picture, that was Corll's thing. Henley's mom identified the kid as her son almost immediately after seeing this garbage on the news, and she wouldn't lie for Henley, not about this. She loved and defended EWH but she never struck me as that kind of person. In the old newspapers, she said she felt horrible for the victims families.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions though.
 
With all due respect, did you even read my first comment? Josh Vargas LIED when he said that Henley didn't recognize the boy in the photograph. He also claimed that the actor playing Henley was wearing the same bloodstained T-Shirt that Henley was wearing the night he killed Corll (which Henley refuted). It was a ridiculous claim. Henley wasn't wearing a T-Shirt when he killed Corll and the cops would've seized it as evidence lol. I could go on. Vargas is not a reliable source.

I have absolutely no idea where this picture was taken, and nor can you tell by studying it. What I do know is that it makes no sense for Henley to have a victim’s picture, that was Corll's thing. Henley's mom identified the kid as her son almost immediately after seeing this garbage on the news, and she wouldn't lie for Henley, not about this. She loved and defended EWH but she never struck me as that kind of person. In the old newspapers, she said she felt horrible for the victims families.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions though.
Again, I get what you're saying here, but the fact is, it's difficult to track through Henley's lies.

Which is a problem. And my guess is (not being snarky here) that this is why there are no redactions. At the same time, I do agree with you that on this matter, it is of importance to try and track through his lies. But I'm not sure it "makes no sense" for Henley to have a victim's image. This case exists in the first place because of things that would have made absolutely zero sense to any normal person.

Not going to say let's agree to disagree because I partially agree with what you're saying. But agreed that people need to exercise their own judgment on this matter, and I'm just not convinced yet. (jmo)
 
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Again, I get what you're saying here, but the fact is, it's difficult to track through Henley's lies.
But Henley didn't lie.....................that's the point.
But I'm not sure it "makes no sense" for Henley to have a victim's image. This case exists in the first place because of things that would have made absolutely zero sense to any normal person.
This is a logical fallacy. This case has plenty of similarities to that of others in true crime. But you are right that Henley having a victim's photo is not improbable, Corll wanted him to keep trophies and wear victims items as a way to get sexual gratification and feel control over his victims and accomplices. It's in Ramsland's book. Henley usually declined but it's why Frank Aguirre's wooden finger was found in the same bag as the Polaroid we're talking about (he confirmed this when I asked him about it personally). He says it's embarrassing and awkward to think about now.

However, the "victim" in this Polaroid is not in a suggestive position, unlike the boys whom Corll is confirmed of having taken photos of (such as Billy Lawrence). A guy on reddit who worked with Josh Vargas on his film about the HMM has an email of Vargas telling him he originally found the photo in an album of pictures of the Henley family. Vargas lied when he publicly claimed that he found the photo in Henley's belongings (which case files indicate were thoroughly searched by HPD).

And my guess is (not being snarky here) that this is why there are no redactions
No one has to actually take Henley's word at face value here. But the fact of the matter is, this photo was positively identified by Mary Henley as her youngest son. That should have been enough to make the media redact their statements. It is widely regarded by people that actually know all the facts that this is all a hoax Vargas generated to gain publicity.
 
This is great. I found a Facebook page with "Class of..." for that school. I reached out to a couple people to see if they still have yearbooks. I doubt I will hear back since FB hides messages from non-friends but worth a shot. I did locate his nephew on FB (son of his brother). However, no response either.

Also this link Lutcher-Stark High School class lists - contact old friends Shows Students and I can see several years 1964 - 1976 and did not find him. Not sure if the link is accurate or full student lists but worth a share.
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I would suggest calling the Eunice R. Benckenstein Library and Archive in Orange, TX! It looks like they got what you need! You can also try the "Worldcat" library archive to see if you can get the librarian to scan it FOR you! <3
 

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