TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #2

[MimosaMornings]

That's interesting. I always assumed every school every where was entirely fenced in.

We have fencing around the ball fields or track/sport areas but not around the school - it varies with each school district/state.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Uvalde: Gunman grandma may never speak again after he shot her in face — Insider

The grandmother of the Texas school shooter is lucky to be alive, a relative told The New York Post. The gunman shot his grandmother in the face before he attacked Robb Elementary School. A relative told the Post the grandmother might never be able to speak again due to her injuries.

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[x_files]

Anyone in a decision-making capacity that day should lose their job, their pensions, all benefits. They failed on a monumental scale.

I concur.

 

[x_files]

I would expect the Superintendent to release a statement. Could be the Principal has been advised not to? At this point, I’m sure lots of attorneys are involved.

They are in CYA mode legally. The principal might want to release a statement but they won't allow him or her to do so.
Infuriating that being human and caring can be viewed as an omission of guilt on the school's part.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

The gunman in Uvalde carried more ammunition into Robb Elementary School than a U.S. soldier carries into combat​

The suspect had purchased 1,657 total rounds of ammunition – 315 rounds were found inside the school, said Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

Of the 315 rounds found inside the school, 142 were spent cartridges, or fired bullets, and 173 were live rounds, or unfired bullets, McCraw said. He also said 922 rounds were outside the school, but on school property, and of those, 22 were spent cartridges and 900 were live rounds.

Investigators found 60 magazines total – 58 in and around the school and at the site where the suspect crashed his car, and two at his residence.

The gunman in Uvalde carried more ammunition into Robb Elementary School than a U.S. soldier carries into combat

The suspect had purchased 1,657 total rounds of ammunition – 315 rounds were found inside the school, law enforcement officials said.

www.cbsnews.com

And the glaring sentence from this: A law enforcement source told CBS News that the amount of ammunition that the suspect brought with him is more than what an average U.S. soldier would go into basic combat with, apparently planning on a massive gun battle.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

After I just posted about the mags - I realized that this info came out in the first press conference - the one that was "inaccurate" and LE is now backtracking on. But still - why would he say they found 58 mags if they, in fact, didn't? <modsnip>

 

[bestill]

Knowing how much ammo he had with him raises so many more questions for me. Didn't we read that he did not have a drivers license or know how to drive? How did he manage of all this? I know LE is all over his bank records, still so many questions!

 

[Dotta]

The gunman in Uvalde carried more ammunition into Robb Elementary School than a U.S. soldier carries into combat​

The suspect had purchased 1,657 total rounds of ammunition – 315 rounds were found inside the school, said Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

Of the 315 rounds found inside the school, 142 were spent cartridges, or fired bullets, and 173 were live rounds, or unfired bullets, McCraw said. He also said 922 rounds were outside the school, but on school property, and of those, 22 were spent cartridges and 900 were live rounds.

Investigators found 60 magazines total – 58 in and around the school and at the site where the suspect crashed his car, and two at his residence.

The gunman in Uvalde carried more ammunition into Robb Elementary School than a U.S. soldier carries into combat

The suspect had purchased 1,657 total rounds of ammunition – 315 rounds were found inside the school, law enforcement officials said.

www.cbsnews.com

And the glaring sentence from this: A law enforcement source told CBS News that the amount of ammunition that the suspect brought with him is more than what an average U.S. soldier would go into basic combat with, apparently planning on a massive gun battle.

I wonder why he left the other weapon + ammo beside the car.

Did he really think he would sneak out of the school and go somewhere else to carry on?
Or, maybe he had an accomplice who didn't turn up?

Or, maybe carrying 2 rifles was too heavy?

 

[Dawookie]

The gunman in Uvalde carried more ammunition into Robb Elementary School than a U.S. soldier carries into combat​

The suspect had purchased 1,657 total rounds of ammunition – 315 rounds were found inside the school, said Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

Of the 315 rounds found inside the school, 142 were spent cartridges, or fired bullets, and 173 were live rounds, or unfired bullets, McCraw said. He also said 922 rounds were outside the school, but on school property, and of those, 22 were spent cartridges and 900 were live rounds.

Investigators found 60 magazines total – 58 in and around the school and at the site where the suspect crashed his car, and two at his residence.

The gunman in Uvalde carried more ammunition into Robb Elementary School than a U.S. soldier carries into combat

The suspect had purchased 1,657 total rounds of ammunition – 315 rounds were found inside the school, law enforcement officials said.

www.cbsnews.com

And the glaring sentence from this: A law enforcement source told CBS News that the amount of ammunition that the suspect brought with him is more than what an average U.S. soldier would go into basic combat with, apparently planning on a massive gun battle.

Now I really have questions. I already wondered where he got the nearly $3k to buy two rifles in three days. Depending on the ammo, that's probably close to another $1k, magazines is another $600-1000. So we're looking at an 18 year old who spent nearly $5000 to commit this atrocity, none of which his grandparents knew about. Had he been saving every pay check he ever earned?

 

[x_files]

Especially given that they do not want to tell the parents they are on Yubo. Some parents will respond, some will be like: “and what are you doing on these apps for perverts? Give me your cellphone…” and then the kid loses privileges, and the parents forget to call the authorities.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[x_files]

I wonder why he left the other weapon + ammo beside the car.

Did he really think he would sneak out of the school and go somewhere else to carry on?
Or, maybe he had an accomplice who didn't turn up?

Or, maybe carrying 2 rifles was too heavy?

I think he thought he might actually make it back to the bag of ammo.
It did cross my mind maybe he expected backup a second shooter, but it didn't seem he had any local friends only online.

 

[x_files]

salvador rolando ramos: Who was the 18-year-old Texas school shooter? Friends say, Salvador Rolando Ramos was bullied as a child, grew up aggressive and violent - The Economic Times

Who was the Texas school shooter? Reports of a school massacre made their way when an 18-year-old boy opened fire at an elementary school In Texas. According to friends and family, he was severely bullied in school and had trouble with his mother.

m.economictimes.com

I think this needs to be discussed as well. Mother, a drug addict; both parents with criminal history. The same question I am asking myself, over and over: if he were bullied and did not want to go to school, why not attack the bully? Why the children?

Two questions: Did he go to to the same elementary school that he later attacked?

And, any history of physical or sexual abuse at home?

Per his father, SR’s sister does not talk to the father. What was going on in the family?

How his mother words it is also very strange.

Forgive my son - Mother of shooter asks people 'not to judge' son

Salvador Ramos' mother Adriana Reyes aka Martinez, said in Spanish: 'I have no words. I have no words to say. I don't know what he was thinking.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I always wonder why NOT attack the bully why attack innocent children? I never found a satisfying answer except at this point he was past wanting revenge and wanted massive carnage so he went down in history.
Why did he seem to HATE women NOT men? What happened to him blaming women? Maybe he was bullied even sexually assaulted told his mother and she didn't believe him?
I wish I had the answers but according to the mother he wasn't always a monster, so if that is indeed true what happened to him to create one?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Now I really have questions. I already wondered where he got the nearly $3k to buy two rifles in three days. Depending on the ammo, that's probably close to another $1k, magazines is another $600-1000. So we're looking at an 18 year old who spent nearly $5000 to commit this atrocity, none of which his grandparents knew about. Had he been saving every pay check he ever earned?

And you know that LE, FBL, DHS, DOJ and all the others are very much looking at this (they already have the info thru warrants - you betcha - including his bank account - if he even had one).

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Maybe it wasn’t so much about killing as about the parents living with the pain.

 

[x_files]

Knowing how much ammo he had with him raises so many more questions for me. Didn't we read that he did not have a drivers license or know how to drive? How did he manage of all this? I know LE is all over his bank records, still so many questions!

all great questions either he borrowed a car with or w/o permission regardless of having a driver's license or had local help or hired a cab, lyft/uber car.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Knowing how much ammo he had with him raises so many more questions for me. Didn't we read that he did not have a drivers license or know how to drive? How did he manage of all this? I know LE is all over his bank records, still so many questions!

He could have walked there. But he probably didn't - a friend or even a family member probably drove him. It's a small town. I've been there.

Also, the reason he didn't have a license was because he dropped out of high school. Texas is one of the states that prevents dropouts from getting a license.

Tex. Transportation Code Ann. 521.204. Requires a diploma or its equivalent or school enrollment to obtain a permit or license.

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[Dawookie]

all great questions either he borrowed a car with or w/o permission regardless of having a driver's license or had local help or hired a cab, lyft/uber car.

He took his grandmother's truck after shooting her.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Now I really have questions. I already wondered where he got the nearly $3k to buy two rifles in three days. Depending on the ammo, that's probably close to another $1k, magazines is another $600-1000. So we're looking at an 18 year old who spent nearly $5000 to commit this atrocity, none of which his grandparents knew about. Had he been saving every pay check he ever earned?

Let's wait for the evidence.

His grandfather may be spinning the story to avoid culpability. His statements re: he didn't know about the guns are not evidence.

His mother's (often weird) statements are not evidence.

Anything his sister says is not evidence.

His online contact's statements unless verified are not evidence.

It's all hearsay until there is evidence to corroborate it.

JMO

 

[Wise Old Owl]

He "took" the truck he crashed - it was his grandma's vehicle. So he shot his grandma and jumped and ran.

He did not know how to drive so, I believe that's why he crashed it. He ran it into a ditch. He jumped out of the truck and reached for the bag - now the people from the funeral home have come out and were running toward the crash (though they were a ways away).

He then grabbed what he could from the bag - leaving the bag on the ground and ran toward the parking lot of the school.

All that is of course JMHO

 

[Dotta]

Is the school going to be demolished?

Biden says he could DEMOLISH Uvalde school where 21 were killed

Democratic Texas State Senator Roland Gutierrez said Biden told him that he was considering giving federal funds to 'raze' and rebuild the school to help the community move on from the mass shooting.

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